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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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any news Phil? I just added a second radiator -i will send you what i did if that could be of use to ya. you are in a different worls.
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I never hurts to have more information and tested alternatives. Send it on and lets see what you have done.

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thats strange. like any others. I premix as much as 12oz for a long while and I never notice any increased in smoke. hmm

I use Idemitsu.
I too use Idenitsu but any mixture more than 6oz causes me to smoke excessivley. I tried the 2oz per gallon mix that olddragger mentioned and had lots of problems: excessive smoke and fouled plugs. I will not try that again.

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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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thanks for trying phil-- to me it doesnt sound good my friend,--at that ratio it may smoke a little but it should run ok and start ok and idle ok. actually should be smoother
are your coils ok?.
Ok this is what i have done. Summit racing has a trans cooler that is 21x7 x 1 1/2 inch deep. you can do a 2 inch recessed mounted from the bumper support -- i made some wrapped around hangers from 1 inch wide aluminum strips from Lowes. Drilled a hole for each mount through the bumper support. i supplied the cooler from the return heater hose. take that little oem restrictor out of the heater hose when you do this..
i opened up 2 more rows off the oem front grill also and i added a small fan (puller) to use during those fast food lines and bumper to bumper.
this puts about 2 more quarts of fluid into the system. limited testing has me on a 95F ambient 50 % humidity, with a/c on,no fans, during 30-45 mph driving, fast food stop and stop light to stop light--at 185F. oil is about the same. my temp did not rise during the fast food stop(it was not fast. i did turn the small fan on for that. having had enough time with it yet but t this point i would have to say it is working for me.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
thanks for trying phil-- to me it doesnt sound good my friend,--at that ratio it may smoke a little but it should run ok and start ok and idle ok. actually should be smoother
are your coils ok?.
Ok this is what i have done. Summit racing has a trans cooler that is 21x7 x 1 1/2 inch deep. you can do a 2 inch recessed mounted from the bumper support -- i made some wrapped around hangers from 1 inch wide aluminum strips from Lowes. Drilled a hole for each mount through the bumper support. i supplied the cooler from the return heater hose. take that little oem restrictor out of the heater hose when you do this..
i opened up 2 more rows off the oem front grill also and i added a small fan (puller) to use during those fast food lines and bumper to bumper.
this puts about 2 more quarts of fluid into the system. limited testing has me on a 95F ambient 50 % humidity, with a/c on,no fans, during 30-45 mph driving, fast food stop and stop light to stop light--at 185F. oil is about the same. my temp did not rise during the fast food stop(it was not fast. i did turn the small fan on for that. having had enough time with it yet but t this point i would have to say it is working for me.
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Coils are new but will only be in there for another week or so. BHR coils should be ready for the rebuild.
I will pass this on to Ray. He's taking my 8 to Phoenix for the rebuild. He tells me that in 7-10 days he will have it complete and staying cooler.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Good luck friend--please keep us informed
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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We had a little meet in Vegas over the weekend and when Ray left he took my car for the rebuild. I have not yet heard if they made it in one piece or not (is no news good news?). I asked Ray and Jeff to post their findings on this thread - so lets see what happens.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Its sitting outside my house at the moment.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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So when is the rebuild happening? Be sure to let me know, Jeeph!
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Dunno. Its up to Ray.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Should be the beginning of next week from what I hear from Ray.
But hey what do I know. Just what I read in the papers.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Should be the beginning of next week from what I hear from Ray.
But hey what do I know. Just what I read in the papers.
Another episode of Live Reality TV from the garage of MazdaManiac?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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I'm thinking it will be from the garage of Charles R. Hill. But hey it could be at MM's.
I don't think we've decided on where yet.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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There will be live video for sure.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Well it made it in one piece. My understanding is that Ray's possessions will be in Arizona on Wednesday or Thursday. He has found his abode and giving him time to put boxes in all the rooms - he should start my car on Monday or so.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
The three of us spent a bit of time discussing the rebuild strategy last night .
Translation : sank a few cold ones .....
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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lol
Indeed.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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ill help here on my end by drinking until the statue of liberty takes her clothes off
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
I'm thinking it will be from the garage of Charles R. Hill. But hey it could be at MM's.
I don't think we've decided on where yet.
When you guys do decide to tear into it, make it a weekend Por favor.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Will, almost definitely, be during the week.
There simply isn't any time on the weekends.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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adding additional radiator? Dont forget to take the restrictor out of that heater hose, get a 180F aftermarket therm high flow like miloderm--drill 3 holes in it THEN block off the bypass. you will be happier. may need extra oil cooler also or upgrade. you can move the fogs and move the oil coolers over. just talking here guys.
coat the exhaust ports?
phenolic intake spacer for lower intake while you are at it?
water meth system double port!!!
fin your oil pan with cool fins--dont laugh--well--allright laugh-- then look it up.
doing the oil pill mod?
hell just drop a six port engine in!!!
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Translation : sank a few cold ones .....
Was that you peeking over the wall?
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
Dont forget to take the restrictor out of that heater hose
You don't want to do this.

Unless you intend to use the HVAC system as an additional cooling circuit, taking the restrictor pill out will just result in less cooling efficiency because you are reducing the flow through the rad.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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you know, take a measure from the honda guys? 2 radiators? stacked? would be a good option
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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oh man, NOW Phil's car is doomed. Taj is making recommendations....

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tajabaho1
you know, take a measure from the honda guys? 2 radiators? stacked? would be a good option
Already did that.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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^ pics? pls?

when can you come to CA? I'm ordering the AFR gauge from Ray tmr yo pls come tune my car:? kkthxbye
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