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Phil's 8 08-02-2008 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 2579269)
any news Phil? I just added a second radiator -i will send you what i did if that could be of use to ya. you are in a different worls.
od

I never hurts to have more information and tested alternatives. Send it on and lets see what you have done.


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 2579291)
thats strange. like any others. I premix as much as 12oz for a long while and I never notice any increased in smoke. hmm

I use Idemitsu.

I too use Idenitsu but any mixture more than 6oz causes me to smoke excessivley. I tried the 2oz per gallon mix that olddragger mentioned and had lots of problems: excessive smoke and fouled plugs. I will not try that again.

olddragger 08-03-2008 09:01 PM

thanks for trying phil-- to me it doesnt sound good my friend,--at that ratio it may smoke a little but it should run ok and start ok and idle ok. actually should be smoother
are your coils ok?.
Ok this is what i have done. Summit racing has a trans cooler that is 21x7 x 1 1/2 inch deep. you can do a 2 inch recessed mounted from the bumper support -- i made some wrapped around hangers from 1 inch wide aluminum strips from Lowes. Drilled a hole for each mount through the bumper support. i supplied the cooler from the return heater hose. take that little oem restrictor out of the heater hose when you do this..
i opened up 2 more rows off the oem front grill also and i added a small fan (puller) to use during those fast food lines and bumper to bumper.
this puts about 2 more quarts of fluid into the system. limited testing has me on a 95F ambient 50 % humidity, with a/c on,no fans, during 30-45 mph driving, fast food stop and stop light to stop light--at 185F. oil is about the same. my temp did not rise during the fast food stop(it was not fast:). i did turn the small fan on for that. having had enough time with it yet but t this point i would have to say it is working for me.
olddragger

Phil's 8 08-04-2008 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 2580406)
thanks for trying phil-- to me it doesnt sound good my friend,--at that ratio it may smoke a little but it should run ok and start ok and idle ok. actually should be smoother
are your coils ok?.
Ok this is what i have done. Summit racing has a trans cooler that is 21x7 x 1 1/2 inch deep. you can do a 2 inch recessed mounted from the bumper support -- i made some wrapped around hangers from 1 inch wide aluminum strips from Lowes. Drilled a hole for each mount through the bumper support. i supplied the cooler from the return heater hose. take that little oem restrictor out of the heater hose when you do this..
i opened up 2 more rows off the oem front grill also and i added a small fan (puller) to use during those fast food lines and bumper to bumper.
this puts about 2 more quarts of fluid into the system. limited testing has me on a 95F ambient 50 % humidity, with a/c on,no fans, during 30-45 mph driving, fast food stop and stop light to stop light--at 185F. oil is about the same. my temp did not rise during the fast food stop(it was not fast:). i did turn the small fan on for that. having had enough time with it yet but t this point i would have to say it is working for me.
olddragger

Coils are new but will only be in there for another week or so. BHR coils should be ready for the rebuild.
I will pass this on to Ray. He's taking my 8 to Phoenix for the rebuild. He tells me that in 7-10 days he will have it complete and staying cooler.

olddragger 08-05-2008 10:07 AM

Good luck friend--please keep us informed
D

Phil's 8 08-11-2008 02:46 PM

We had a little meet in Vegas over the weekend and when Ray left he took my car for the rebuild. I have not yet heard if they made it in one piece or not (is no news good news?). I asked Ray and Jeff to post their findings on this thread - so lets see what happens.

MazdaManiac 08-11-2008 02:50 PM

Its sitting outside my house at the moment.

chickenwafer 08-11-2008 02:59 PM

So when is the rebuild happening? Be sure to let me know, Jeeph!

MazdaManiac 08-11-2008 03:17 PM

Dunno. Its up to Ray.

Easy_E1 08-11-2008 03:24 PM

Should be the beginning of next week from what I hear from Ray.
But hey what do I know. Just what I read in the papers.

RK 08-11-2008 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 2592010)
Should be the beginning of next week from what I hear from Ray.
But hey what do I know. Just what I read in the papers.

Another episode of Live Reality TV from the garage of MazdaManiac?

Easy_E1 08-11-2008 03:36 PM

I'm thinking it will be from the garage of Charles R. Hill. But hey it could be at MM's.
I don't think we've decided on where yet.

MazdaManiac 08-11-2008 03:43 PM

There will be live video for sure.

Phil's 8 08-12-2008 10:20 AM

Well it made it in one piece. My understanding is that Ray's possessions will be in Arizona on Wednesday or Thursday. He has found his abode and giving him time to put boxes in all the rooms - he should start my car on Monday or so.

Brettus 08-12-2008 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 2593061)
The three of us spent a bit of time discussing the rebuild strategy last night .

Translation : sank a few cold ones .....

MazdaManiac 08-12-2008 03:51 PM

lol
Indeed.

heyarnold69 08-12-2008 03:53 PM

ill help here on my end by drinking until the statue of liberty takes her clothes off

09Factor 08-12-2008 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Easy_E1 (Post 2592026)
I'm thinking it will be from the garage of Charles R. Hill. But hey it could be at MM's.
I don't think we've decided on where yet.

When you guys do decide to tear into it, make it a weekend Por favor.

MazdaManiac 08-12-2008 05:24 PM

Will, almost definitely, be during the week.
There simply isn't any time on the weekends.

olddragger 08-12-2008 06:16 PM

adding additional radiator? Dont forget to take the restrictor out of that heater hose, get a 180F aftermarket therm high flow like miloderm--drill 3 holes in it THEN block off the bypass. you will be happier. may need extra oil cooler also or upgrade. you can move the fogs and move the oil coolers over. just talking here guys.
coat the exhaust ports?
phenolic intake spacer for lower intake while you are at it?
water meth system double port!!!
fin your oil pan with cool fins--dont laugh--well--allright laugh-- then look it up.
doing the oil pill mod?
hell just drop a six port engine in!!!
olddragger

Easy_E1 08-12-2008 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 2593458)
Translation : sank a few cold ones .....

Was that you peeking over the wall? :uhh:

MazdaManiac 08-12-2008 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 2593665)
Dont forget to take the restrictor out of that heater hose

You don't want to do this.

Unless you intend to use the HVAC system as an additional cooling circuit, taking the restrictor pill out will just result in less cooling efficiency because you are reducing the flow through the rad.

tajabaho1 08-12-2008 06:27 PM

you know, take a measure from the honda guys? 2 radiators? stacked? would be a good option

Jedi54 08-12-2008 06:28 PM

oh man, NOW Phil's car is doomed. Taj is making recommendations....

;)

MazdaManiac 08-12-2008 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by tajabaho1 (Post 2593686)
you know, take a measure from the honda guys? 2 radiators? stacked? would be a good option

Already did that.

tajabaho1 08-12-2008 06:34 PM

^ pics? pls?

when can you come to CA? I'm ordering the AFR gauge from Ray tmr yo pls come tune my car:? kkthxbye


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