Clutch Issue - Please help
09-16-2009, 09:07 PM
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Clutch Issue - Please help
Somebody please read this and help if possible. I was driving down the road the other day and came to a stop light. As I came up to the stop light, I pressed in the clutch to take it out of gear and when I pressed in the clutch, I heard a pop. Like a screw breaking, bolt breaking, or cable popping. That kind of noise. There is now a little bit of play in my clutch pedal before the clutch begins to engage. The car still goes through all 6 gears but not quite like it should. The only one I notice a problem with is 1st to 2nd. If I am driving "slow", it shifts fine, but if I try to quick shift it, it doesn't go into gear like it should. It has trouble going into gear. If anyone knows anything about this or has had this happen to them, please help. I looked under my dash but do not see any obvious breaks or anything like that. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
09-16-2009, 09:33 PM
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Sounds like you broke your clutch pedal bracket. As Jon316G said, check your pedal mount bracket.
BHR has a replacement. Just click this name and send him a PM Charles R Hill
BHR has a replacement. Just click this name and send him a PM Charles R Hill
Last edited by Easy_E1; 09-16-2009 at 09:40 PM.
09-16-2009, 09:34 PM
#4
Yeah it could have been you Clutch Pedal that may have snapped
If it is we have complete Clutch Pedal assemblies with our Bracket installed on it or you can buy the bracket itself and do the installation yourself.
Either way you can check them out here
If it is we have complete Clutch Pedal assemblies with our Bracket installed on it or you can buy the bracket itself and do the installation yourself.
Either way you can check them out here
09-16-2009, 09:42 PM
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I remember not too long ago that someone accused me of offering overpriced reinforced clutch pedal assemblies because I advertised them in the $300 range. Good thing the BHR reinforcement-welded assemblies, which use a brand-new Mazda pedal, are only $250, shipped in the 48 States. They also have a lifetime warranty with them. Never mind that BHR were the ones who discovered the issue and devised the solution in the first place. 
09-16-2009, 09:48 PM
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I remember not too long ago that someone accused me of offering overpriced reinforced clutch pedal assemblies because I advertised them in the $300 range. Good thing the BHR reinforcement-welded assemblies, which use a brand-new Mazda pedal, are only $250, shipped in the 48 States. They also have a lifetime warranty with them. Never mind that BHR were the ones who discovered the issue and devised the solution in the first place.
$375>$300>$250>$100
Take your pick, everyone has different preferences and options.
09-16-2009, 10:11 PM
#9
Whatsa matter, Kyle? A couple of vendors engaging in aggressive marketing make you uncomfortable? Brice has every right to advertise his products and services and so does BHR.
Please spare all of us this feigned concern over "professionalism". The vast majority of members on this club care about one thing; the best product for the lowest prices.
Brice has his angles and I have mine. BFD.
Please spare all of us this feigned concern over "professionalism". The vast majority of members on this club care about one thing; the best product for the lowest prices.
Brice has his angles and I have mine. BFD.
09-18-2009, 04:20 PM
#12
One is free to ask anyone who has ever sought help what it is like to get our assistance, even when they bought product elsewhere and get no after-sale support on it.
You are invited, Mac, to recall my trip to Tommy's house for his turbo install and ask Tommy how much I charged him for the help.
You're right, BHR sucks.
09-18-2009, 04:28 PM
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I believe I was mostly referring to all the double talk and pthere miscellaneous bullshit which has come out of every meeting with your crew. Some of the things that were said during those Chicago visits about some people who have had your back on this forum was quite amusing.
And about Tommy's install. How much did you try to charge him before he said no way in hell? And why would he pay for a turbo install service when the installer doesn't even know how a wastegate works?
And about Tommy's install. How much did you try to charge him before he said no way in hell? And why would he pay for a turbo install service when the installer doesn't even know how a wastegate works?
09-18-2009, 04:35 PM
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Who cares if they argue, they are both selling good products and idea's to help keep people from getting hurt when it comes to this problem, and I'd buy from both of them even if it's like a married couple
, it's just that I'm a poor sob right now.
Hey you two don't make me do what I did last time
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, it's just that I'm a poor sob right now.Hey you two don't make me do what I did last time
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09-18-2009, 04:36 PM
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I don't think you recall much about Tommy's installation as I was there doing it with him and helping out, never even THOUGHT about charging him for the labor, and I know how a wastegate works.
You do recall that you and installed his fuel pump, too, correct?
As for the rest, it ain't double-talk as I will say to anyone's face that which I say in their absence. Simple as that.
You do recall that you and installed his fuel pump, too, correct?
As for the rest, it ain't double-talk as I will say to anyone's face that which I say in their absence. Simple as that.
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09-18-2009, 06:17 PM
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I don't think you recall much about Tommy's installation as I was there doing it with him and helping out, never even THOUGHT about charging him for the labor, and I know how a wastegate works.
You do recall that you and installed his fuel pump, too, correct?
As for the rest, it ain't double-talk as I will say to anyone's face that which I say in their absence. Simple as that.
You do recall that you and installed his fuel pump, too, correct?
As for the rest, it ain't double-talk as I will say to anyone's face that which I say in their absence. Simple as that.
From Tommy's mouth you quoted him a price to come install his PTP kit. Your saying he lied to me?
From Mike's mouth you were unsure as to how the wastegate bolted in and how it worked. Your saying he lied to me?
I do recall that you and I took part in the fuel pump install that you then PM'd me later asking how it all went together. One would only wonder as to why.
If it's not double talk, I invite you to voice your same opinions on shinka213, who I believe you had just done some work for. And have you made Cam aware that he doesn't even know how to install his own kit?
Last edited by mac11; 09-18-2009 at 06:52 PM.
09-18-2009, 07:45 PM
#20
So how about you let fly with all the stuff you said you would?
I'm also still waiting to hear why you thought you needed to increase the size of the trans cooler in your AT version of the radiator. Don't think I ever got an answer to that one either. I never saw trans temps that would substantiate this need. What I did see, and still see to this day are coolant temps that could benefit from more surface area.
I'm also still waiting to hear why you thought you needed to increase the size of the trans cooler in your AT version of the radiator. Don't think I ever got an answer to that one either. I never saw trans temps that would substantiate this need. What I did see, and still see to this day are coolant temps that could benefit from more surface area.
09-18-2009, 07:57 PM
#21
We finally get to the crux of your grudge; which "stuff" did I say I would "let fly"?
As far as explaining any BHR product, I may or may not entertain that idea because you are not seeking info in this argument any more than you were last time we played this game.
As far as explaining any BHR product, I may or may not entertain that idea because you are not seeking info in this argument any more than you were last time we played this game.
09-18-2009, 08:15 PM
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From Tommy's mouth you quoted him a price to come install his PTP kit. Your saying he lied to me?
From Mike's mouth you were unsure as to how the wastegate bolted in and how it worked. Your saying he lied to me?
I do recall that you and I took part in the fuel pump install that you then PM'd me later asking how it all went together. One would only wonder as to why.
If it's not double talk, I invite you to voice your same opinions on shinka213, who I believe you had just done some work for. And have you made Cam aware that he doesn't even know how to install his own kit?
From Mike's mouth you were unsure as to how the wastegate bolted in and how it worked. Your saying he lied to me?
I do recall that you and I took part in the fuel pump install that you then PM'd me later asking how it all went together. One would only wonder as to why.
If it's not double talk, I invite you to voice your same opinions on shinka213, who I believe you had just done some work for. And have you made Cam aware that he doesn't even know how to install his own kit?
Tommy; I quoted him a price. I also helped with the installation. What did he eventually pay me?
Mike; I may have been unsure how it bolted in as Mike and I were trying to both figure out the angles PTP had in-mind when they designed the kit.
Mac11; You and I installed a Mazsport Fuel Pump Upgrade together, successfully IIRC, and I later forgot how everything went together with it because it was the first (and ONLY) time I had anything to do with such an installation.
Shinka213; she and I have had our difference and I still consider her a friend for whom I would still do anything she asked of me. How she feels, I have no idea, but I don't hold personal or philosophical differences against anyone around me. Pat is a fine lady, a great hostess of my 2 visits in her home, and I hope she is still a friend.
As for the Pettit S/C and my relationship with Cam; he and I know where we stand with each other and we have mutual respect. He also asked for my input in the development of the kit (as regarded market-readiness and installation details) and I gave him what he asked for. According to him, my input was helpful to Pettit and their customers and it still is.
People like to make their choices based much on how a given vendor makes them feel and I understand that. I have a different approach to that kind of empathy and those who don't like or understand what we try to do around here are free to choose as they wish.
Last edited by Charles R. Hill; 09-18-2009 at 08:21 PM.
09-18-2009, 08:18 PM
#23
The crux has already been clearly stated. You try to pass off that your business is all upstanding and here to help the masses. When that is clearly not the case and it's plain to see from meeting you.
The radiator issue is just another example of this.
[QUOTE=Charles R. Hill;3231876As far as explaining any BHR product, I may or may not entertain that idea because you are not seeking info in this argument any more than you were last time we played this game.[/QUOTE]
I am and always was very interested in knowing this information. It was never just for arguments sake. I am very deeply involved in a car that has your product on it. Your product did in fact lower the transmission temperatures. However, there was never any need for this. The temperatures were fine from the very beginning. What it did need help with - that it never got - was with the coolant temps. Because of this I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask the question. So I'll ask it again. Why did you make the trans cooler larger when there was clearly no need for it? Why did you make the trans cooler larger, and in doing so sacrifice the size of the coolant radiator when that is where all the attention needed to be given?
It's your business, it's your product. Entertain me if you want, don't if you don't. It's still a valid question.
I just wanted to know if you would actually let the whole forum know what you thought of them in the public arena that you felt so comfortable rambling on about in a garage in front of 10 or so of us. Obviously that's not the case otherwise you wouldn't have completely dodged the issue. That was answer enough.
Look, Ray, The time you came out to Tommy's everyone went down there that day with an open mind and at that point were willing to do business with you. But all you did was put everyone and everything down and prove what the real BHR way is and how you conduct business. You spoiled yourself for a lot of people in that garage that day without knowing it.
You were the big man, everyone else were idiots. All the other businesses are idiots. All your customers are idiots.
The time Jeff was out here to tune Tommy's car, his little tirade at the end of the day was just classic. Perfect. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but he somehow is even more arrogant in person than on the forums. Which is amazing for the lack of cause.
I guess thats just all part of your "aggressive marketing strategy."
So, like I said, I have no other problem with any of this than that you are trying to pass your business off as a stand up organization that is just here to help out us poor ignorant folk.
The radiator issue is just another example of this.
[QUOTE=Charles R. Hill;3231876As far as explaining any BHR product, I may or may not entertain that idea because you are not seeking info in this argument any more than you were last time we played this game.[/QUOTE]
I am and always was very interested in knowing this information. It was never just for arguments sake. I am very deeply involved in a car that has your product on it. Your product did in fact lower the transmission temperatures. However, there was never any need for this. The temperatures were fine from the very beginning. What it did need help with - that it never got - was with the coolant temps. Because of this I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask the question. So I'll ask it again. Why did you make the trans cooler larger when there was clearly no need for it? Why did you make the trans cooler larger, and in doing so sacrifice the size of the coolant radiator when that is where all the attention needed to be given?
It's your business, it's your product. Entertain me if you want, don't if you don't. It's still a valid question.
Look, Ray, The time you came out to Tommy's everyone went down there that day with an open mind and at that point were willing to do business with you. But all you did was put everyone and everything down and prove what the real BHR way is and how you conduct business. You spoiled yourself for a lot of people in that garage that day without knowing it.
You were the big man, everyone else were idiots. All the other businesses are idiots. All your customers are idiots.
The time Jeff was out here to tune Tommy's car, his little tirade at the end of the day was just classic. Perfect. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but he somehow is even more arrogant in person than on the forums. Which is amazing for the lack of cause.
I guess thats just all part of your "aggressive marketing strategy."
So, like I said, I have no other problem with any of this than that you are trying to pass your business off as a stand up organization that is just here to help out us poor ignorant folk.
09-18-2009, 08:23 PM
#25
Now that I have had a few hours to concoct a false response, let's see what I can remember about each one of these cases (even though they were nearly 2 years ago):
Tommy; I quoted him a price. I also helped with the installation. What did he eventually pay me?
Mike; I may have been unsure how it bolted in as Mike and I were trying to both figure out the angles PTP had in-mind when they designed the kit.
Mac11; You and I installed a Mazsport Fuel Pump Upgrade together, successfully IIRC, and I later forgot how everything went together with it because it was the first (and ONLY) time I had anything to do with such an installation.
Shinka213; she and I have had our difference and I still consider her a friend for whom I would still do anything she asked of me. How she feels, I have no idea, but I don't hold personal difference against anyone around me. Pat is a fine lady, a great hostess of my 2 visits in her home, and I hope she is still a friend.
As for the Pettit S/C and my relationship with Cam; he and I know where we stand with each other and we have mutual respect. He also asked for my input in the development of the kit and I gave him what he asked for. According to him, my input was helpful to Pettit and their customers and it still is.
Tommy; I quoted him a price. I also helped with the installation. What did he eventually pay me?
Mike; I may have been unsure how it bolted in as Mike and I were trying to both figure out the angles PTP had in-mind when they designed the kit.
Mac11; You and I installed a Mazsport Fuel Pump Upgrade together, successfully IIRC, and I later forgot how everything went together with it because it was the first (and ONLY) time I had anything to do with such an installation.
Shinka213; she and I have had our difference and I still consider her a friend for whom I would still do anything she asked of me. How she feels, I have no idea, but I don't hold personal difference against anyone around me. Pat is a fine lady, a great hostess of my 2 visits in her home, and I hope she is still a friend.
As for the Pettit S/C and my relationship with Cam; he and I know where we stand with each other and we have mutual respect. He also asked for my input in the development of the kit and I gave him what he asked for. According to him, my input was helpful to Pettit and their customers and it still is.
The reason a lot of people that I know didn't and wouldn't choose you has nothing to do with how a certain vender makes them feel. It's because they don't want the person they just handed money to going on the forum and say "I still consider her a friend for whom I would still do anything she asked of me" yet when in the shop with the guys talk about how dumb they are.
As far as the wastegate, my understanding of the situation is you had to be told how it worked and your response was to the effect of "thats what I have Jeff for, I just install the parts"
And you want people to pay you?