Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.

Renesis OIL PRESSURE Discussion with Dealer Tech

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 01-04-2010, 12:59 PM
  #1151  
Lucky #33
iTrader: (4)
 
hoss -05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Antonio, SARX Garage
Posts: 2,851
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
WOW finally got though the whole thread what a read so far~! I have some ideas but will be waiting patiently to see how things pan out first. I will be taking a more active part in this discussion when I get back from Afghanistan.
Old 01-04-2010, 07:24 PM
  #1152  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
olddragger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: macon, georgia
Posts: 10,828
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
Good luck dude and God be with you--check in when you return?
OD
Old 01-04-2010, 07:46 PM
  #1153  
Super Moderator
Thread Starter
 
ASH8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 10,868
Received 317 Likes on 226 Posts
Originally Posted by hoss -05
WOW finally got though the whole thread what a read so far~! I have some ideas but will be waiting patiently to see how things pan out first. I will be taking a more active part in this discussion when I get back from Afghanistan.
Yes mate...take good care of yourself and all your mates!!

We will be thinking of you...even from Australia..
Old 01-04-2010, 10:59 PM
  #1154  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 453 Likes on 367 Posts
TX

Originally Posted by hoss -05
WOW finally got though the whole thread what a read so far~! I have some ideas but will be waiting patiently to see how things pan out first. I will be taking a more active part in this discussion when I get back from Afghanistan.
It's about freakin' time!!!
Old 01-05-2010, 04:17 AM
  #1155  
Ayrton Senna Forever
 
ayrton012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Europe
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
We have to get the technically minimum standard pressure (10PSi more at every 1000rpm, 9000=90 PSI) at first, before we are talking about how much is the flow? But it seems like we don't have this pressure with the S1's original system in some kind of situations (high rpm, opened pellet at 50-60Celsius oil...).

Last edited by ayrton012; 01-05-2010 at 07:38 AM. Reason: PSI
Old 01-05-2010, 09:14 AM
  #1156  
Lucky #33
iTrader: (4)
 
hoss -05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Antonio, SARX Garage
Posts: 2,851
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
LOL Thanks 9k~! I may be gone but For sure I will still be on here or rotary 4 life. So has anyone here used a higher then 180* oil bypass thermostat? Would installing a a aftermarket bypass thermostat affect the factory thermostats inside the coolers operational function and and ability to react quickly to fluctuating oil temps?
Old 01-05-2010, 10:53 AM
  #1157  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
olddragger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: macon, georgia
Posts: 10,828
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
beginning to think a water oil cooler may be better?
OD
Old 01-05-2010, 10:55 AM
  #1158  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 453 Likes on 367 Posts
Haha, I'm not that cold hearted, I meant about freakin' time you read all the posts. I am curios how an aftermarket thermostat would work with the factory ones. Plumbing one in would be a bitch though.
Old 01-05-2010, 10:56 AM
  #1159  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 453 Likes on 367 Posts
TX

Originally Posted by olddragger
beginning to think a water oil cooler may be better?
OD

Man I almost pulled the trigger on one of the Setrab inline units but couldn't really find any data on them.
Old 01-05-2010, 12:32 PM
  #1160  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
longpath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stamford, CT
Posts: 629
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Man I almost pulled the trigger on one of the Setrab inline units but couldn't really find any data on them.
Originally Posted by olddragger
beginning to think a water oil cooler may be better?
OD
If nothing else, for cold weather, I could definitely see the advantage; but I still remember reading about oil to water coolers causing trouble in some years of the FB, so I'm wondering if this wouldn't be trading one problem for another.
Old 01-05-2010, 03:47 PM
  #1161  
Lucky #33
iTrader: (4)
 
hoss -05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Antonio, SARX Garage
Posts: 2,851
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
I think a water to oil cooler after the stock factory oil coolers would be Great~! Esp when I hear things like "our stock coolers flow 50% when cold".

For the Huge oil coolers guys it would help even out coolant and oil temps and that seems like a very good thing.

In some after market FI kits they will come with both a air to oil and a water to oil cooler. This must be for a reason.
Old 01-07-2010, 02:35 PM
  #1162  
Registered User
 
madcows's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: michigan
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The biggest benefit I could think of for using water->oil cooler would be to warm up the oil quicker. But what's the point if increasing the pressure accomplishes a similar feat?

For cold climates, it's easy enough to block off most of the air flow to an air->oil cooler to keep the temps up, so there's little point in using a water->oil cooler for that.
Old 01-07-2010, 05:29 PM
  #1163  
Nature vs. Nurture
iTrader: (5)
 
ganseg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FWIW, I have my two oil coolers blocked and I can't get my oil up to temp. I do two 20 mile freeway commutes each day (70% freeway at 65mph).

I haven't done the oil pressure mod yet, but have the parts. I am doing that mostly because the previous and newer rotarys run the higher pressure - seems like the 2004-2008s should too. I have started running a minimum 10W oil too.
Old 01-07-2010, 05:36 PM
  #1164  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 453 Likes on 367 Posts
Why the minimum 10W?
Old 01-07-2010, 06:13 PM
  #1165  
Nature vs. Nurture
iTrader: (5)
 
ganseg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'cause i am also buying into the poor lubrication and conventional oil arguments until i finally go back to synthetics like i have used in my other cars. (I have used Mobil1 0W40 in all my cars since I had a car with a 1.8T in 2002.)

Gotta tell you guys i am having a lot of fun trying to work thru all the unique aspects of this car. We probably can't prove everything we choose to do, but we get to weigh a lot of good input and make our decisions. Fun for me. The hand wringing will start the week before i go to the track in May!

Thanks for all you guys contribute!

Last edited by ganseg; 01-07-2010 at 06:18 PM.
Old 01-08-2010, 08:49 AM
  #1166  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
olddragger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: macon, georgia
Posts: 10,828
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
Agreed--and the forum has helped a lot in trying to figure out what to do on many issues.
OD
Old 01-08-2010, 09:46 AM
  #1167  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 453 Likes on 367 Posts
Yes it is all fun for me as well
Old 01-10-2010, 07:25 PM
  #1168  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 453 Likes on 367 Posts
Thanks Paul!

Old 01-11-2010, 07:06 AM
  #1169  
Registered
iTrader: (12)
 
Mazmart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,792
Received 63 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Thanks Paul!
You're most welcome.

Paul.
Old 01-11-2010, 09:00 PM
  #1170  
Registered
 
SilverEIGHT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Buford, GA USA
Posts: 4,866
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Paul, are you coming to the install?
Old 01-16-2010, 05:14 PM
  #1171  
is looking for his torque
 
always.anthony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
rotaries....scary stuff.

would it be okay to use any of the filter mags? i dont see why i shoul buy the 70 dollar one over the 40.

does the advertised pulling weight make a difference? 75 lbs is a lot... should i pay more to get to 160 lbs?

Last edited by always.anthony; 01-16-2010 at 05:24 PM.
Old 01-16-2010, 06:39 PM
  #1172  
wankel my wanker
 
plain ole wanker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: indiana
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
^ http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BY042SH
Buy 10 stack them 2x5 on filter
Old 01-16-2010, 07:09 PM
  #1173  
Nature vs. Nurture
iTrader: (5)
 
ganseg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I bought 15 for $31 + $5 shipping. They covered half of my filter. If I had measured, I would probably have done 30. I sent the company selling them the ad of the place selling the purpose made ones, and they thought I didn't even need the 15. I figure the more metal fragments I capture the better.

Regarding the purpose made ones, I change brands of filters and sizes. This way I can put them on any filter.
Old 01-16-2010, 11:54 PM
  #1174  
SARX Legend
iTrader: (46)
 
9krpmrx8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 33,784
Received 453 Likes on 367 Posts
If you feel like reading, some of the links are relative to this thread. There are some things I agree with and some things I don't.

http://forum.centralvirginiamazdaclu...-like-reading/
Old 01-17-2010, 04:10 AM
  #1175  
is looking for his torque
 
always.anthony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sweet, just oredered my magnets, now next question, if the mobil m1-110 is not the right filter? which one?

i've been using that i just thought it would filter more


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 5.00 average.

Quick Reply: Renesis OIL PRESSURE Discussion with Dealer Tech



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:23 PM.