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Old 01-18-2009, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
Well get on with it Swoope! We don't have all day to sit around and wit for you to pull that beeatch out. Pics, we demand pics.

Preferably of hot girls in bikinis doing the work. I like it when they point to the work as it's being done. Like Barkers Beauties from the "Price is Right".

really,

we are in swoope time.. it might happen, and when it does i will likely be late at night..

you got mo photos. so the adventure continues..

btw, comment on your photos. hot hot hot stuff!

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OMG! Ur so SMART!!!
art is hot..

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i feel like such an idiot right now. thanks soope
Old 01-22-2009, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY
i feel like such an idiot right now. thanks soope
where is the w?

btw,

it lives! frankenpump. it is in and runs.

will post more photos after the daytona races.



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for those pooping on this thread.

see post #3

or click here..

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...87&postcount=3

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Old 01-25-2009, 10:14 PM
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wow, thats awesome swoop.... i have to admit though this perplexes me. i dont keep up to much with the fuel pump and premix stuff, but from what i've seen this is evidence that contradicts everything else i've seen...
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yea,

but lots of different stuff is going on.. next weekend i am going to talk and show smart people and ask questions about this stuff..

but i blame a lot of it on not premixing the premix. but more so in the early days 3 years ago when i tried lots of different stuff.

i got my hands on some synthetic 2 stoke virgin whale oil!

my big comment on this is dont dump and pump..

the common thread with those that have the issue during track weekends is premix..

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Old 01-25-2009, 10:51 PM
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debating on pulling out my fuel pump to see what 10,000~ miles of premix did to it..
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so what about pumping in a little gas in the tank, than dump in the premix, then continue to fill the rest of the tank with gas...?

I readily admit that I am a bit confused here, as I have a hard time following swoope's posts. Sorry!
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as opposed to filling up completely and then dumping the premix?
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depending on what you are using for premix... some mix better than others..

i have mentioned this before. pick a container, at least one liter.. add oil, then fill with gas, shake.. when you are at half a tank add it..

then fill the rest of the way..

my fail is you win.

is that clear enough! and i do answer pm. so if you are shy ask a question..

i think really the problem is using not the best syn 2 stroke oil. btw, i payed 15 bucks for one. and as i poured it in i was thinking.. that stuff looks thick..

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How about buying decent gas without a bunch of crap in it

I still stand by my theory that you guys get crappy gas down there

I premix..used multiple types...and have never had problems related to plugged up socks.......I do get all the other pump problems related to sloshing around though
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you'd think there is something burnable that we could add to our tanks to clear that crap out and allow it to "burn through".
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sorry swoope, I get what your saying. I am using MMO at the moment....any thoughts on that? It seems pretty thin...wouldn't think it would clog anything.
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This may sound naive, but are we really implying that:
1) adding premix to a gallon or so of gas at the bottom of the tank and then filling up 30 seconds later, is significantly worse than 2) adding premix to a half a tank and then filling up 30 seconds later?

My understanding was that premix oil mixes thoroughly with fuel. (Someone here, I think rotarygod, once posted about a jar of pre-mixed fuel, and it seemed stable) If this is the case, then I can't see why it would cause any pump filter problems. If it's NOT the case, then I can't see why it would matter much when you add the premix.

Does this logic sound reasonable to anyone else?
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Originally Posted by dannobre
How about buying decent gas without a bunch of crap in it

I still stand by my theory that you guys get crappy gas down there

I premix..used multiple types...and have never had problems related to plugged up socks.......I do get all the other pump problems related to sloshing around though
that was the first question i had for olddragger.. but, we have a couple of guys that have never mixed. and have lots of track miles on pump and no problems..

all the way down to the yellow light.. were as us dump and fill guys not so much..

btw, when i left daytona last night it was 68 deg.

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i'd be weary to stick the gas pump into a container not made for it.. any sort of static electricity would not be good..

that and i'm sure the gas station staff will have something to say..
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Originally Posted by swoope
that was the first question i had for olddragger.. but, we have a couple of guys that have never mixed. and have lots of track miles on pump and no problems..

all the way down to the yellow light.. were as us dump and fill guys not so much..

btw, when i left daytona last night it was 68 deg.

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Ya...but how fast are they I never had a problem till the sticky wide tires and a lot of practice
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Originally Posted by 05rex8
sorry swoope, I get what your saying. I am using MMO at the moment....any thoughts on that? It seems pretty thin...wouldn't think it would clog anything.
the smart person i have talked to about the mixing qualitys is using mmo right now.

right now i am not mixing anything other than fp+.

and that might be the way i am going. i am going to do pump pulls and sock checks. that sounds dirty!

i had hoped to pull both sides of the tank and wipe everything down, but i missed the house with no fuel by .25 of a mile. yes i know my car well. with the angle of where the car ran dry it took 1 gal to get it going again.

so the full tank wipe has not happened..

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Originally Posted by dannobre
Ya...but how fast are they I never had a problem till the sticky wide tires and a lot of practice
tt second runner up.. on r tires.

but very, very smooth..

does not have the problem with his car.. but did it when driving my car..

btw, he is from atlanta, same area as the bad fuel... btw, could you post a pic of your fuel sock?

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Originally Posted by swoope
depending on what you are using for premix... Some mix better than others.
So what kind of premix are you using swoope?
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So what kind of premix are you using swoope?
wow,

over the last ~ 70k miles i have used lots of stuff.. if you had read you would have known that..

that is the point to some extent. what you use and how your use it..

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Originally Posted by alz0rz
i'd be weary to stick the gas pump into a container not made for it.. any sort of static electricity would not be good..

that and i'm sure the gas station staff will have something to say..
I think mythbusters did a thing on that... pretty sure it took a huge amount of static before it was of any concern...
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Originally Posted by ShellDude
you'd think there is something burnable that we could add to our tanks to clear that crap out and allow it to "burn through".
depends . Are you planning a long life or a short one ?
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Originally Posted by Brettus
depends . Are you planning a long life or a short one ?
thanks for that, you have eased my down under angst!

btw, figure out your hot side yet?

and i saw scott dixon yesterday.. he looked good, and said hi. and something about reading the owners manual?

daytona did not suck.

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