Notices
Series I Tech Garage The place to discuss anything technical about the RX-8 that doesn't fit into any of the categories below.
View Poll Results: Who would pay for a renesis motor and etc.
Yes I would
12
66.67%
No I wouldnt
0
0%
I only want to have a RX8
6
33.33%
None of the above
0
0%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

Crate motor and new ecu

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 01-18-2004, 07:33 PM
  #1  
MWG
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
MWG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Crate motor and new ecu

Who would be willing to pay for someone to take a renesis block make the adapers so 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen Rx-7 owners could get added benfit of the renesis motor, added intake timing and less emissions. I think the renesis motor would be see the engine as a ported and would only need some black box to put in line with the ecu computer to make sure the timing and fuel was right for the amount of air. This is to say with out all the renesis intake related stuff, and with out a stand alone system. I think this would make at least 200 horsepower, and alot less emissions. Then older rx-7s and 200 horsepower versus a stock 146 or 160 is much better. Turbo guys would be able to make even more. Let me know what you guys think

Last edited by MWG; 01-18-2004 at 07:42 PM.
Old 01-18-2004, 07:47 PM
  #2  
MWG
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
MWG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
One other thing I think this my cost 5,000 dollars verus the 10,000 or more it would cost to because you would have to a have the motor, renesis intake, Renesis computer and etc.... for it to run. I dont think rx-8 motor and etc... will be around in large numbers for probley at least 10 years. Unless you buy a Rx-8.
Old 01-20-2004, 12:01 AM
  #3  
Registered User
 
1stRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have already started a RENESIS swap in my GSL-SE. I started a web site for the project - www.1bad7.com

Fun. Fun. Fun. Not cheap Fun though.
Old 01-20-2004, 12:15 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
1stRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Also see this thread at RX7club.com
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.ph...hreadid=259247

I just had wrist surgery - so the pics are slow to come. The chassis equipment is "in the mail"
Cage
Suspension
sleepy head lights
fiberglass hood
Meriah front bumper
etc.

I have found a few Renesis 13B's but have not finalized the deal. Should happen soon (ie - February).

I personally think that the swap is WAY too expensive for the average enthusiest. Making a swap "kit" of some sort would be silly. If there are 5 or more people- I would make duplicates of everything I do. Anything to offset the cost would be nice.
Old 01-20-2004, 07:25 AM
  #5  
no pistons!
 
Efini 8's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: ORANGE COUNTY, CA
Posts: 434
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks. Ur better off with the 13B in the FD3S... turbo charged and much faster...
Old 01-20-2004, 09:04 AM
  #6  
mostly harmless
 
wakeech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Greater Vancouver Area, BC
Posts: 3,440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Efini 8
I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks.
you're obviously under the impression that you know anything about engines. shut your trap before you make this same mistake again.

...should edit this so it doesn't turn into a huge flame war.

fine, you think it sucks, tell me your reasons, i'll say why they're dumb reasons to not like the engine, and everything'll be fine.

Last edited by wakeech; 01-20-2004 at 09:29 AM.
Old 01-20-2004, 09:31 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
1stRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks. Ur better off with the 13B in the FD3S... turbo charged and much faster...
I don't wan't a turbo and all the complexity that goes with it. That is the reason for the Rensis. Cheaper, more reliable, and produces the most horsepower per liter than any emissions legal engine available.

I intend to make my FB fast by putting it on a diet - at this point, I am almost down to 2000lbs. It doesn't take much effort to make a 500hp FI Rotary by copying the work of others and buying bolt on kits.

I will use the FB project to test aftermarket RENESIS mods - in addition to my own before I install anything on my 8. Being 1000lbs lighter than an 8 and 850lbs lighter than an FD - it will be a quick car for sure.
Old 01-20-2004, 09:35 AM
  #8  
Back in the family
 
Psylence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: philly 'burbs
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I applaud your efforts! Please keep us posted with pics/details of the swap if at all possible!
Old 01-20-2004, 02:33 PM
  #9  
Oversteer = Bliss
 
SA22C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sask, Canada
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Efini 8
I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks. Ur better off with the 13B in the FD3S... turbo charged and much faster...
Maybe he doesn't want to have to rebuild the motor every 60k or pop a seal during the tuning process because of one ping.
Old 01-20-2004, 03:21 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
1stRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maybe he doesn't want to have to rebuild the motor every 60k or pop a seal during the tuning process because of one ping.
Exactly. The car will be very reliable. Simple.
Old 01-20-2004, 09:28 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
CERAMICSEAL's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'd like to put a renesis in a Miata some day. Your project sounds very exciting 1st, keep us posted on your progress.
Old 01-24-2004, 11:36 AM
  #12  
Registered
 
John Corbitt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Ocala, FL
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I was going to put the renesis in my 01 miata, but the dealership in town gave too much money to trade it in on an 8.
Old 01-24-2004, 12:18 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
CERAMICSEAL's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That would have been cool. S2000s wouldn't know what happened. There are many ways to go fast but few so neat, cool and unique.
Old 01-24-2004, 01:42 PM
  #14  
FWD Hater
iTrader: (1)
 
NAVILESRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 881
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Holy Moly!!! A Renesis powered FB!! OMG!! That is a dream of mine. The FB has been my most favorite rotary powered car. The Renesis is the ultimate NA rotary. It's a dream come true. I will be following your progress closely. Maybe one day I'll try it. If I hit the lottery or something.
Old 01-24-2004, 08:38 PM
  #15  
Registered User
 
1stRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If I hit the lottery or something.
The lottery will get you more than a Renesis powered FB.

The cost est. is about $25k or so. including labor. With one available hand, the cost is doubled. If you do it all yourself, you would spend less than me.

Thanks 4 the support. My surgery has been way more taxing than I anticipated. I brought in one more person to help in an attempt to get it finished within about 5 months or so.

back to the medication............
Old 01-24-2004, 09:42 PM
  #16  
www.dorkage.com
 
w2aew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Bridgewater Twp, NJ
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hmmm - if I won the lottery, I'd try to put the renesis in my MGB - now that would be fun!
Old 01-24-2004, 10:36 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
1stRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
......a shifter cart!!
Old 01-25-2004, 07:20 PM
  #18  
MWG
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
MWG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I wonder what the hard cost for one might be for just a bare block. and to get the ecu reprogramed? For the person would want to do it themselves.
Old 01-25-2004, 07:51 PM
  #19  
Registered User
 
1stRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
$7k with accessories, like alternator, coils, ECU, injectors, etc. I am still searching for a better deal. I will need to have the engine in my hands in about 6 to 8 weeks if I am going to finish the project.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
galognu
Rotary Swaps
138
11-16-2020 05:20 AM
bosstin87
Series I Tech Garage
8
10-05-2015 06:52 AM
Luke.s
New Member Forum
4
09-30-2015 05:57 PM
XianUnix
Series I Trouble Shooting
6
09-29-2015 03:48 PM
tommy26Germany
Series I Trouble Shooting
11
09-29-2015 10:33 AM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Crate motor and new ecu



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:47 AM.