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MWG 01-18-2004 07:33 PM

Crate motor and new ecu
 
Who would be willing to pay for someone to take a renesis block make the adapers so 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen Rx-7 owners could get added benfit of the renesis motor, added intake timing and less emissions. I think the renesis motor would be see the engine as a ported and would only need some black box to put in line with the ecu computer to make sure the timing and fuel was right for the amount of air. This is to say with out all the renesis intake related stuff, and with out a stand alone system. I think this would make at least 200 horsepower, and alot less emissions. Then older rx-7s and 200 horsepower versus a stock 146 or 160 is much better. Turbo guys would be able to make even more. Let me know what you guys think

MWG 01-18-2004 07:47 PM

One other thing I think this my cost 5,000 dollars verus the 10,000 or more it would cost to because you would have to a have the motor, renesis intake, Renesis computer and etc.... for it to run. I dont think rx-8 motor and etc... will be around in large numbers for probley at least 10 years. Unless you buy a Rx-8.

1stRX8 01-20-2004 12:01 AM

I have already started a RENESIS swap in my GSL-SE. I started a web site for the project - www.1bad7.com

Fun. Fun. Fun. Not cheap Fun though.

1stRX8 01-20-2004 12:15 AM

Also see this thread at RX7club.com
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.ph...hreadid=259247

I just had wrist surgery - so the pics are slow to come. The chassis equipment is "in the mail"
Cage
Suspension
sleepy head lights
fiberglass hood
Meriah front bumper
etc.

I have found a few Renesis 13B's but have not finalized the deal. Should happen soon (ie - February).

I personally think that the swap is WAY too expensive for the average enthusiest. Making a swap "kit" of some sort would be silly. If there are 5 or more people- I would make duplicates of everything I do. Anything to offset the cost would be nice.

Efini 8 01-20-2004 07:25 AM

I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks. Ur better off with the 13B in the FD3S... turbo charged and much faster...

wakeech 01-20-2004 09:04 AM


Originally posted by Efini 8
I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks.
you're obviously under the impression that you know anything about engines. shut your trap before you make this same mistake again.

...should edit this so it doesn't turn into a huge flame war.

fine, you think it sucks, tell me your reasons, i'll say why they're dumb reasons to not like the engine, and everything'll be fine.

1stRX8 01-20-2004 09:31 AM


I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks. Ur better off with the 13B in the FD3S... turbo charged and much faster...
I don't wan't a turbo and all the complexity that goes with it. That is the reason for the Rensis. Cheaper, more reliable, and produces the most horsepower per liter than any emissions legal engine available.

I intend to make my FB fast by putting it on a diet - at this point, I am almost down to 2000lbs. It doesn't take much effort to make a 500hp FI Rotary by copying the work of others and buying bolt on kits.

I will use the FB project to test aftermarket RENESIS mods - in addition to my own before I install anything on my 8. Being 1000lbs lighter than an 8 and 850lbs lighter than an FD - it will be a quick car for sure.

Psylence 01-20-2004 09:35 AM

I applaud your efforts! Please keep us posted with pics/details of the swap if at all possible!

SA22C 01-20-2004 02:33 PM


Originally posted by Efini 8
I dont know why you would really want the RENESIS since it plain sucks. Ur better off with the 13B in the FD3S... turbo charged and much faster...
Maybe he doesn't want to have to rebuild the motor every 60k or pop a seal during the tuning process because of one ping.

1stRX8 01-20-2004 03:21 PM


Maybe he doesn't want to have to rebuild the motor every 60k or pop a seal during the tuning process because of one ping.
Exactly. The car will be very reliable. Simple.

CERAMICSEAL 01-20-2004 09:28 PM

I'd like to put a renesis in a Miata some day. Your project sounds very exciting 1st, keep us posted on your progress.

John Corbitt 01-24-2004 11:36 AM

I was going to put the renesis in my 01 miata, but the dealership in town gave too much money to trade it in on an 8.

CERAMICSEAL 01-24-2004 12:18 PM

That would have been cool. S2000s wouldn't know what happened. There are many ways to go fast but few so neat, cool and unique.

NAVILESRX8 01-24-2004 01:42 PM

Holy Moly!!! A Renesis powered FB!! OMG!! That is a dream of mine. The FB has been my most favorite rotary powered car. The Renesis is the ultimate NA rotary. It's a dream come true. I will be following your progress closely. Maybe one day I'll try it. If I hit the lottery or something.

1stRX8 01-24-2004 08:38 PM


If I hit the lottery or something.
The lottery will get you more than a Renesis powered FB.

The cost est. is about $25k or so. including labor. With one available hand, the cost is doubled. If you do it all yourself, you would spend less than me.

Thanks 4 the support. My surgery has been way more taxing than I anticipated. I brought in one more person to help in an attempt to get it finished within about 5 months or so.

back to the medication............

w2aew 01-24-2004 09:42 PM

Hmmm - if I won the lottery, I'd try to put the renesis in my MGB - now that would be fun!

1stRX8 01-24-2004 10:36 PM

......a shifter cart!!

MWG 01-25-2004 07:20 PM

I wonder what the hard cost for one might be for just a bare block. and to get the ecu reprogramed? For the person would want to do it themselves.

1stRX8 01-25-2004 07:51 PM

$7k with accessories, like alternator, coils, ECU, injectors, etc. I am still searching for a better deal. I will need to have the engine in my hands in about 6 to 8 weeks if I am going to finish the project.


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