Notices
Series I Major Horsepower Upgrades This is the place to discuss Super Chargers and Turbos, Nitrous, Porting, etc

Turbo sparkplugs?

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:46 PM
  #26  
paulmasoner's Avatar
Asshole for hire
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,214
Likes: 3
From: Colfontaine, Belgium
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Absolutely, 100% verified.

I am NOT going to waste my time making a video for this one.
aw, i liked the rotor and eccentric shaft video lol
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 07:07 PM
  #27  
05rex8's Avatar
sold the 8... :(
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Absolutely, 100% verified.

I am NOT going to waste my time making a video for this one.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 07:49 PM
  #28  
Gauge's Avatar
Not Jeff Gordon
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
From: SE-GA
How are the oem plugs for the 8-10psi range (on the esmeril)?
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 07:58 PM
  #29  
05rex8's Avatar
sold the 8... :(
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 0
personally I would use all trailing rx7 plugs

I want to try those greddy ones next time
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 10:48 AM
  #30  
BDC's Avatar
BDC
BDC Motorsports
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 417
Likes: 1
From: Dallas, Tx
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Absolutely, 100% verified.

I am NOT going to waste my time making a video for this one.
Good Lord. Somebody else could do it, then. I suspect you don't have a spare housing to test this on, hence one reason why I asked in the first place.

B
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 10:50 AM
  #31  
BDC's Avatar
BDC
BDC Motorsports
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 417
Likes: 1
From: Dallas, Tx
Originally Posted by 05rex8
personally I would use all trailing rx7 plugs

I want to try those greddy ones next time
For an NA application they may be alright. I still strongly recommend against using them for a boost setup; especially anything that's endeavouring to run some good load on the motor.

B

Edit: I'm referring to the NGK BUR9EQ plugs and not the GReddy ones.

Last edited by BDC; Mar 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM. Reason: Clarification
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:15 AM
  #32  
JIN13's Avatar
NW Florida TURBO
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 283
Likes: 1
From: Navarre FL, In my boosted 8...
hey guys just putting this out there i got a rx8 with the greddy turbo and i'm running the RX7 trailing plugs (5255-BUR9EQP) as my leading and i got stock RX8 trailing plugs (6701-RE9BT) as my trailing this way i don't have a need for any shims or washers. I haven't really had any problems untill recently i had a few missfires, i got and installed the BHR ignition kit and got one missfire but i think i just need to change my plugs all over again or just give them a good cleaning.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:30 AM
  #33  
JIN13's Avatar
NW Florida TURBO
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 283
Likes: 1
From: Navarre FL, In my boosted 8...
if I change them out i might got with stock rx8 plugs (6700-RE7CL) leading and (6701-RE9BT)
trailing cause they both have a similar heat range.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:35 AM
  #34  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 28
From: Under my car
Originally Posted by BDC
Good Lord. Somebody else could do it, then. I suspect you don't have a spare housing to test this on, hence one reason why I asked in the first place.

B
No, I have a half a dozen housings sitting right here.
How do you think I verified it?
Which is why I said 100% verified.
Now, if you don't believe me, that's your problem.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:39 AM
  #35  
JIN13's Avatar
NW Florida TURBO
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 283
Likes: 1
From: Navarre FL, In my boosted 8...
you tell him MM
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:42 AM
  #36  
paulmasoner's Avatar
Asshole for hire
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,214
Likes: 3
From: Colfontaine, Belgium
yeah, he is known for having motors laying around...
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 12:39 PM
  #37  
Brettus's Avatar
Boosted Kiwi
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 20,845
Likes: 1,799
From: Y-cat-o NZ
Well this is confusing to me because I have screwed the BUR9EQP plugs into my housing that I have here and they don't bottom out so .........
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 12:45 PM
  #38  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 28
From: Under my car
Originally Posted by Brettus
Well this is confusing to me because I have screwed the BUR9EQP plugs into my housing that I have here and they don't bottom out so .........
Into the trailing position?

Ugh. You are forcing me to make a pictorial, aren't you...
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 12:47 PM
  #39  
paulmasoner's Avatar
Asshole for hire
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,214
Likes: 3
From: Colfontaine, Belgium
YES DO IT!!! one, two, three rotations of the eccentric shaft = one rotation of the rotor lol
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 12:54 PM
  #40  
Brettus's Avatar
Boosted Kiwi
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 20,845
Likes: 1,799
From: Y-cat-o NZ
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Into the trailing position?

Ugh. You are forcing me to make a pictorial, aren't you...
yes - the trailing posn . I even got my vernier calipers out to measure the plug and hole depth and found there was clearance . I was tempted to not fit washers after finding his out but put them on anyway - just in case I was missing something .....

This is what i get
plug 20.4mm
hole 22.0mm
end of hole is not flat but tapered down towads the opening giving a 23mm depth at the edge of the opening into the combustion chamber .

Last edited by Brettus; Mar 2, 2009 at 01:11 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 12:58 PM
  #41  
Charles R. Hill's Avatar
Owner of BHR
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,101
Likes: 45
Originally Posted by olddragger
Ray--i have the IRTO1-31's and 27's denso--tad colder than oem ngk's
OD
Thanks, OD.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:00 PM
  #42  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 28
From: Under my car
I think pics will suffice.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:13 PM
  #43  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 28
From: Under my car
Here:
Attached Thumbnails Turbo sparkplugs?-1.jpg   Turbo sparkplugs?-2.jpg   Turbo sparkplugs?-3.jpg   Turbo sparkplugs?-4.jpg  
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:24 PM
  #44  
Brettus's Avatar
Boosted Kiwi
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 20,845
Likes: 1,799
From: Y-cat-o NZ
your first pic - your calipers are measuring to the plug body - not the washer ......

I have the same spark plug and vernier calipers in front of me . 20.4mm (with a crushed washer)
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 01:29 PM
  #45  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 28
From: Under my car
Angle of the pic.

Look. Do whatever you want. I really don't care.

I've tested them and I've seen the damage they do to the wall of the rotor housing.

Have fun.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 02:19 PM
  #46  
BDC's Avatar
BDC
BDC Motorsports
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 417
Likes: 1
From: Dallas, Tx
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Angle of the pic.

Look. Do whatever you want. I really don't care.

I've tested them and I've seen the damage they do to the wall of the rotor housing.

Have fun.
Thread... the... plug... into... the... plug... hole... Simple.

THEN, take a picture of it from the inside of the housing and see where the end of the plug is with respect to the depth of the plug land. Easy.

B
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 02:24 PM
  #47  
BDC's Avatar
BDC
BDC Motorsports
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 417
Likes: 1
From: Dallas, Tx
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Angle of the pic.

Look. Do whatever you want. I really don't care.

I've tested them and I've seen the damage they do to the wall of the rotor housing.

Have fun.
You've seen what? What damage to the wall of the rotor housing? I'd love to hear the explanation on this one.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 02:29 PM
  #48  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 28
From: Under my car
The trailing plug hole has a "tapered" seat. The "face" of the plug contacts the wall of the housing while there is still .5mm or so of space between the seat and the plug hole "shoulder".
When you screw a 13b plug into that hole, it comes to the back of the plug hole opening in the combustion chamber, but it is not seated on the shoulder.
Applying torque to the pug to "seat" it puts pressure on the wall of the chamber.
Under engine load and heat, this surface deforms.
When you examine that area around that plug hole on an engine that has used the 13b plugs in that position, you find scuffing of the surface and corresponding damage to the apex seals.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 02:31 PM
  #49  
JIN13's Avatar
NW Florida TURBO
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 283
Likes: 1
From: Navarre FL, In my boosted 8...
thanks MM, people should know to just listen to those with the most experiesce around here and if not just research sparkplugs.com website tell you all the info/specs on any plug you need for every set up
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 02:32 PM
  #50  
MazdaManiac's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 16,386
Likes: 28
From: Under my car
I just know what I've seen. I'm not interested in a pissing match on this.
You all can do whatever floats your boat.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:58 PM.