slash128's Top Mount Build
#203
n3rd
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It was kinda funny cuz I felt it snap and I figured it was bound to happen. Then I got a CEL and I thought maybe it's something worse. Turned out I forgot to turn off the P2070 code for the SSV after I swapped connections. Doh! I checked the pedal, def popped one of the spot welds...
#204
n3rd
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Ok I take that back. I just got my pedal welded, so should be driveable again tonight. I leave for Seattle tho, so won't get to injectors until probably next weekend.
#205
to bad you were not loging Injector duty cycle I think there is more then enough room on the injectors, you could try to lower the injector scale on the P2's or crank up the VE table alot.
how did the ssv thing turn out? did you notice a butt dyno difference?
trying to keep up with being super busy at work, finally am home on a proper laptop
how did the ssv thing turn out? did you notice a butt dyno difference?
trying to keep up with being super busy at work, finally am home on a proper laptop
#206
Boosted Kiwi
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Just had another look at that last log ................ 4.98v on the MAF .
So - looks like you have no headroom left !
I have heard of maf extenders - might be worth some research ....
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So - looks like you have no headroom left !
I have heard of maf extenders - might be worth some research ....
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#207
n3rd
Thread Starter
I will log injector duty cycle next time. Definitely hitting the upper limit of the MAF. MAF extender idea looks interesting. But may be simpler to build a larger diameter intake?
I didn't get a chance to try any boost test after keeping the SSV open cuz my clutch pedal broke. But I got that fixed this morning and should have it back in tonight. I won't have time to put the stock yellows in the P1s tonight but I could play with injector scale and log duty cycle to see what we get. I plan to put the stock yellows in the P1s next weekend when I get back from Seattle.
FWIW, butt dyno on that 2'nd gear log was If you look at the VD graph you can see that it was headed towards the 400hp mark before I lost traction just before 7K RPM... It happened so fast I couldn't even react. It was scary! I know VD is not a reliable measure, but I use it as a relative gauge. At the last data point before the spike was 370 @ 6594RPM. In previous 2'nd gear logs at the same RPM VD showed about 225... No matter what the real value is there is definitely huge gains there. And breaking the tires loose at 7K RPM in 2'nd gear has got to take some decent power... I can't wait to see a 3'rd gear log, if the motor holds up...
I didn't get a chance to try any boost test after keeping the SSV open cuz my clutch pedal broke. But I got that fixed this morning and should have it back in tonight. I won't have time to put the stock yellows in the P1s tonight but I could play with injector scale and log duty cycle to see what we get. I plan to put the stock yellows in the P1s next weekend when I get back from Seattle.
FWIW, butt dyno on that 2'nd gear log was If you look at the VD graph you can see that it was headed towards the 400hp mark before I lost traction just before 7K RPM... It happened so fast I couldn't even react. It was scary! I know VD is not a reliable measure, but I use it as a relative gauge. At the last data point before the spike was 370 @ 6594RPM. In previous 2'nd gear logs at the same RPM VD showed about 225... No matter what the real value is there is definitely huge gains there. And breaking the tires loose at 7K RPM in 2'nd gear has got to take some decent power... I can't wait to see a 3'rd gear log, if the motor holds up...
#212
n3rd
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I am on 245's as well, but they are also winter tires, flame away lol... I was burning them off before I invested in new wheels and tires. The rears were pretty well worn but I wanted to keep logging so I rotated front to back, so I have decent tread in the back now. The front is a different story now. I really shouldn't be doing logs on these tires.
#213
Boosted Kiwi
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Thought this would make an interesting comparison . Your last log vs one of my logs. RPM at start and finish is identical.
Mine has better spoolup but once the BC kick in it flattens off whereas yours goes into orbit . Later as yours declines it is still 15-20% higher than mine .
Last edited by Brettus; 10-10-2013 at 07:44 PM.
#214
n3rd
Thread Starter
Thank you, that is an interesting comparison. What psi was your bc set at?
Got my clutch pedal installed, but it must have bent or warped just enough to where the plunger just quite doesn't push in all the way on the electrical switch so the car won't start unless I reach under and push it in. I will rig something up. At least I can shift again!
I still can't get logviewer to graph as nice as you. I dunno if it's a difference between the logviewer built in to ME and the standalone, but that same log you loaded from me won't plot right for me. I'll post up a screen shot later. Edit: nevermind, it's the dyno log that gives me fits.
Got my clutch pedal installed, but it must have bent or warped just enough to where the plunger just quite doesn't push in all the way on the electrical switch so the car won't start unless I reach under and push it in. I will rig something up. At least I can shift again!
I still can't get logviewer to graph as nice as you. I dunno if it's a difference between the logviewer built in to ME and the standalone, but that same log you loaded from me won't plot right for me. I'll post up a screen shot later. Edit: nevermind, it's the dyno log that gives me fits.
Last edited by slash128; 10-10-2013 at 08:55 PM.
#215
n3rd
Thread Starter
After reading a bit it seems there is a reset procedure if the switch was pressed out of the assembly. I did that fiddling with the switch while the bracket was being welded. I will try to reset.
Yep, pulling the switch plunger back out to reset did the trick.
Yep, pulling the switch plunger back out to reset did the trick.
Last edited by slash128; 10-10-2013 at 09:20 PM.
#216
I'm glad the BC was brought up. I went back through and couldn't see if you're running one slash? On my last boosted application I noticed a ~500rpm decrease in the time I hit full boost. I also maintained a steady boost level throughout the entire rpm range.
That HUGE curve that Brett shows looks like an overboost. I remember the placement of your wastegate wasn't optimal and could be showing it's ugly head. This could also just be from you breaking the tires loose now that I think about it. Is that the log you used brett?
That HUGE curve that Brett shows looks like an overboost. I remember the placement of your wastegate wasn't optimal and could be showing it's ugly head. This could also just be from you breaking the tires loose now that I think about it. Is that the log you used brett?
#217
n3rd
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I'm glad the BC was brought up. I went back through and couldn't see if you're running one slash? On my last boosted application I noticed a ~500rpm decrease in the time I hit full boost. I also maintained a steady boost level throughout the entire rpm range.
That HUGE curve that Brett shows looks like an overboost. I remember the placement of your wastegate wasn't optimal and could be showing it's ugly head. This could also just be from you breaking the tires loose now that I think about it. Is that the log you used brett?
That HUGE curve that Brett shows looks like an overboost. I remember the placement of your wastegate wasn't optimal and could be showing it's ugly head. This could also just be from you breaking the tires loose now that I think about it. Is that the log you used brett?
Also, the wastegate will be moved this winter. It will be relocated so it is parallel to the turbo inlet and outlet.
#218
n3rd
Thread Starter
Did I misunderstand?
EDIT: I am dumb. I was not connected to the VFAD solenoid. It has been so long since I looked at those connectors I forgot the top one is for the air pump, not the VFAD. This way does not work.
Last edited by slash128; 10-11-2013 at 03:19 PM.
#219
Boosted Kiwi
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So I used the VFAD solenoid instead so I could leave the VDI connector in place. Otherwise, swapping the SSV with VDI leads to the VDI valve opening when the SSV normally opens. I noticed that my idle was lumpy this way, because with the default SSV table it opens at any temp over 68. But not when swapping with VFAD, since my VFAD is deleted anyway, I could leave the VDI open RPM at 10000 to keep it closed... I could have just left the SSV connector disconnected, but I am OCD that way
Did I misunderstand?
Did I misunderstand?
How you did it works too but ................. a bit of a PIA having the etra wiring .
#220
n3rd
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#223
do it!
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