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Old 01-05-2016, 01:53 AM
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If you can screw a nut on there, put two nuts on, then back the first one off against the second while doing the second one up. The friction will bind them onto the bolt thread, then you can undo the bolt using the first nut. Hopefully you have enough room to get at the nut with a spanner/crescent/wrench, whatever you muricans call em!
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Originally Posted by Brettus
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Thanks, I'll give this a try. It's really tight in there, figures it was the hardest one to get to that broke! I'll pull the motor mounts off and shift the motor over and down to get some more room. Was also looking at stud extractor sockets but never used one so wasn't sure if they work for something like this.
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Originally Posted by JimmyBlack
If you can screw a nut on there, put two nuts on, then back the first one off against the second while doing the second one up. The friction will bind them onto the bolt thread, then you can undo the bolt using the first nut. Hopefully you have enough room to get at the nut with a spanner/crescent/wrench, whatever you muricans call em!
Good suggestion, I appreciate it! Just can't get a spanner in there maybe after I pull the motor mounts... Appreciate the advice!
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JB you gave me an idea. I just need to find a closed M6 nut and I can run it on with a socket extension and back the bolt out to where I can grab it from above...
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Originally Posted by slash128
Augh!!! So everything has been going great. Tonight I went to put the UIM back on and this bolt snapped. It didn't even take much!!! I can't get a grip on it from under the car Any suggestions other than dropping the motor?



Welcome to the club, I had this happen removing one of these (and breaking other bolts, which is why torque wrench Redmond is my nickname, lol) and Hoss-05 had it happen installing one but it was the middle which sucks. Mine was the one most forward and I was able to drill it out since it goes thru I now just use a nut and bolt which secures it very well.

I can't tell by the pic. is this the one forward or aft of the engine?

I bought a set of thread cleaners for this very reason and now I use anti seize on every fastener that goes into aluminum.

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Welcome to the club, I had this happen removing one of these (and breaking other bolts, which is why torque wrench Redmond is my nickname, lol) and Hoss-05 had it happen installing one but it was the middle which sucks. Mine was the one most forward and I was able to drill it out since it goes thru I now just use a nut and bolt which secures it very well.

I can't tell by the pic. is this the one forward or aft of the engine?

I bought a set of thread cleaners for this very reason and now I use anti seize on every fastener that goes into aluminum.
I don't think I like this club Unfortunately, as Murphy's Law would dictate, this one is all the way to the rear of the engine. That's the transmission in the pic. No room on top to get a drill. I agree with anti seize from now on.

I picked up a couple of these acorn nuts this morning. I'm hoping I can use a socket on this to back the stud up enough to get a grip on it from above...


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Ugh, that rear one would be a bitch. I also broke one of the LIM bolts but luckily the engine was out so I was able to get it over to an engine shop to get it sleeved and removed. I tired everything to remove it myself and eventually broke and easy out in it and was f$%ked.

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Oh man! Yeah I'll be staying away from easy-outs at all cost. Had my share of bad luck with those. Or probably more coorrect my lack of experience....
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Can you post a pic from the top, did it break clean at the surface?
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I'll post a pic of the top when I get home later. Unfortunately, it did break clean flush on the top...
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
I bought a set of thread cleaners for this very reason and now I use anti seize on every fastener that goes into aluminum.
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I tired everything to remove it myself and eventually broke and easy out in it and was f$%ked.
I have absolutely no idea why some sick bastard in Marketing decided to call them "easy-outs".
I personally call them "impossible-outs" and only resort to them when PB, chisels, and my smoke wrench have failed me.
Everybody's experience including my own is that they often just f%%k you.
Usually in the wee hours of a rainy, cold morning only a few hours before the green flag.

Threaded aluminum is terrifying. I second clean threads, quality anti-sieze, and precision torque wrenches!

Good luck, Slash. I like the acorn nut idea.

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Originally Posted by slash128
I'll post a pic of the top when I get home later. Unfortunately, it did break clean flush on the top...

UGH.

Originally Posted by wankelbolt
I have absolutely no idea why some sick bastard in Marketing decided to call them "easy-outs".
I personally call them "impossible-outs" and only resort to them when PB, chisels, and my smoke wrench have failed me.
Everybody's experience including my own is that they often just f%%k you.
Usually in the wee hours of a rainy, cold morning only a few hours before the green flag.

Threaded aluminum is terrifying. I second clean threads, quality anti-sieze, and precision torque wrenches!

Good luck, Slash. I like the acorn nut idea.

Yeah I thread chase everything now. It was such a nightmare to do it on a freshly rebuilt engine. On the UIM bolts I just use a 1/4" rachet and hand tighten them,

Although, good drill bits go a long way I must say.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
UGH.




Yeah I thread chase everything now. It was such a nightmare to do it on a freshly rebuilt engine. On the UIM bolts I just use a 1/4" rachet and hand tighten them,

Although, good drill bits go a long way I must say.
i snapped a uim bolt a few years back (with my built in tq wrench) but luckily i was at my brothers garage and he has all the tools anyone could need. im pretty sure 9k has the same issue as me when it comes to tightening bolts
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I think your on the right track slash, you should get it out. just like you said.

my inlet outlet did not change, Ill send you some pictures

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Originally Posted by FazdaRX_8
I think your on the right track slash, you should get it out. just like you said.

my inlet outlet did not change, Ill send you some pictures
Thanks for the pics! I guess I'll have to see how mine pans out... Fingers crossed
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Acorn nut FTW!!! Thanks all for the advice!





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Moral of the story : Be a good squirrel and aways keep a few acorns on hand !
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^--That and also: even a blind squirrel finds a few nuts now and then
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Or : screwing your shiny nuts can get you out of a tight hole .
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Nice work!
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Haha! Now with all the busted nuts out of the way I made some more progress getting it back together
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congrats you saved yourself some major aggravation!
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Ahh yall all missed the easiest option. Put a small nut on top. Weld in the middle to the broken bolt. The. Unscrew it. It heats things up and break them free while giving you a new head on the bolt.

But you have to keep a welder around for that.
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Haha ya wish I had a welder around for that, and other things! The acorn nut actually worked out quite well. I didn't evn have to get back under the car. I was actually fortunate I couldn't grip it from underneath. The way the bolt snapped left a protrusion that would have prevented it from coming out from the bottom. If I had gripped it underneath it would have ruined the threads and then it would have been all sorts of buggered up.

The nut was a little too deep but I just dropped in a smaller diameter set screw and it worked like a charm!


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