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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 02:34 AM
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do we ever get to see pics of the porting and dyno sheet?
Not yet, Ito is in the process of selling his shop and moving into a new one or something like that. He said he was having some problems working some of that out, but he'll be back soon enough to quench or thirst for 350hp.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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i'm curious to see what he did with the ports. am i the only one who has shared anything so far?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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last i heard he was going to work for gotham racing or something like that
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
i'm curious to see what he did with the ports. am i the only one who has shared anything so far?
Yours aren't for some top secret magazine article that no one knows about.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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no, but i'm trying to get ahold of rxtuner to see if they'll do a quickie for a not-so-top-secret writeup
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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My engine is stock. no ports, no nitrous. in all honesty. just close this thread. not worth my time... If members would see what I have done to my renesis 8 months ago, jaws would hit the ground. I honestly lost interest in showing my documented pictures and story of my secretive ported engine. I was always being watch by mazda and told clearly to leave the car bone stock. At this point what am I doing this **** for? All the good research I have found and can't share it, because big brother mazda is looking down on me.. F U Mazda..
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Port & Polish
I honestly lost interest in showing my documented pictures and story of my secretive ported engine. I was always being watch by mazda and told clearly to leave the car bone stock. At this point what am I doing this **** for? All the good research I have found and can't share it, because big brother mazda is looking down on me.. F U Mazda..
And on that note....

We should close this thread, and NEVER speak of it again. This thread has been all talk since the beginning, and has ended the same way. Despite the fact that this is mostly due to keeping things from Mazda, it doesn't change the fact that if you cant share stuff with other, there's absolutely no point in having a thread about it.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Thats strange you allready said you lost your warranty so who cares what mazda says .theres people who put turbos on and posted pictures ,dyno sheets and so on mazda cant do anything but take your warranty away.


p.s did you sell your shop yet .i heard your going to work for gotham racing ???
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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i don't understand why mazda would come down on you--do you work for them or something?

in any case, email me some pics. i wanna see.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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When you buy something it is yours and you are free to do with it as you please. Mazda CAN'T tell you what to do and therefore you have nothing to hide. See, that wasn't so hard was it? Acosta took a 3 rotor RX-8 to Sevenstock 6. I don't recall Mazda saying anything bad about it.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
When you buy something it is yours and you are free to do with it as you please. Mazda CAN'T tell you what to do and therefore you have nothing to hide. See, that wasn't so hard was it? Acosta took a 3 rotor RX-8 to Sevenstock 6. I don't recall Mazda saying anything bad about it.
car still belongs to mazda..
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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oh ok so it a lease that would explain everything
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Port & Polish
car still belongs to mazda..
Now that is a useful explanation.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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yep. mr. port and polish is a real winner.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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With answers like that how can you blame people for flaming on him?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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With answers like that how can you blame people for flaming on him?
Yep, still being cryptic. Mazda owns it, does that mean I leased it or, Mazda gave it to me for a project car with a duty to report all progress to them, and they retain ownership, with reasonable royalties for his improvements. Kind of an after market licensing thing. Looking at his threads in the totality, it appears he's leasing it, and the shop's not doing very well, so it must be sold. I agree, close and delete this thread, it adds nothing to the knowledge base. Just takes up space.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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....what a total let down...
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Yep, still being cryptic. Mazda owns it, does that mean I leased it or, Mazda gave it to me for a project car with a duty to report all progress to them, and they retain ownership, with reasonable royalties for his improvements. Kind of an after market licensing thing. Looking at his threads in the totality, it appears he's leasing it, and the shop's not doing very well, so it must be sold. I agree, close and delete this thread, it adds nothing to the knowledge base. Just takes up space.
The honorable thing to do here from my behalf is to show what I did and report my findings. I decided to do so. I will not deny Rx8 owners. I will deal with Mazda in my own way.

The reason I am selling my shop is very simple to me. I turn my hobby into a business, Many years later I no longer have a life or a hobby. My life is consumed by customers and my shop. I have a bad taste in my mouth because of that and I no longer wish to own a business. I have work coming out of the 4 corners of my shop. I take one step forward and 3 backwards. I am seriously overwhelmed with work and it's not going to slow down. it hasn't in the last 17 years.

People tell me get help. I tried and it was not worth my time. half my time I was teaching and loosing precious time.

All I ask members at this point is to bare with me. I will show results and pictures. is the least I could do.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Yep i here you port & polish speacialy when you hire people to help you and they end up stealing from your shop.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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A step buy step guide into the porting of the RX8 would be kinda helpful. Where I come from there is only 2 garages in the country that I know of that will touch a rotary engine.
Lets just say the garages are not local. some 300miles away.
So a good manual of how you acheived this would be very helpful to myself anyway.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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A step buy step guide into the porting of the RX8 would be kinda helpful. Where I come from there is only 2 garages in the country that I know of that will touch a rotary engine.
Lets just say the garages are not local. some 300miles away.
So a good manual of how you acheived this would be very helpful to myself anyway.
Start reading about porting in general and fluid dynamics, then check out Rotary Engine Illustrated and read about different types of porting styles. To me, the hard part is getting the engine out, tearing it down, and putting it back together again without screwing everything up. The actual porting doesn't look that bad (if you understand what you are trying to achieve). Though, if you are going to DIY, I would suggest buying a crate motor or going to a junk yard and practicing on a working scrap engine. The 12A's use carbs instead of fuel injection, so they should be easier to setup in your garage. Plus they are NA, like our cars. Not to mention buying a crate motor means that 1) you can still drive your car, 2) you can engine dyno your work (more accurate), 3) if you screw up, you car is still fine. I eventually want to port my engine. IF I do it myself, it's going to be after seeing what I can do on several crate / junkyard motors.

Saying give me a step by step isn't going to work. That's like saying "give me a step by step on how to make my car handle the way I want it to". There are so many more questions that need to be answered: How do you want it to perform? Do you want a daily driver or a race car? Do you care about emissions if it is a daily or not? Do you want to advance the port timing or not? Do you care about losing more MPG?

Then, even if he gives a DIY, you still have to be skilled enough to work the tools and understand what you are doing. A DIY is 1/2 of what you need. The other half is a mix of knowledge and (if you plan on doing a good job) experience. If you read enough, you won't need the DIY, and you'll be better off when you actually do the work. So, crack some books / websites and get to it. Otherwise, you should just ship it out to someone who has.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mcpheeg
A step buy step guide into the porting of the RX8 would be kinda helpful. Where I come from there is only 2 garages in the country that I know of that will touch a rotary engine.
Lets just say the garages are not local. some 300miles away.
So a good manual of how you acheived this would be very helpful to myself anyway.

where have you been?
https://www.rx8club.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Well, I am just tired of this cat and mouse game we are playing. I am tired of trying to contact mr. P&P, just to give my support and talk, not to bug the **** out of him or ask questions, and never getting an answer back. Even when posting in a thread he has never responded to one of my questions. Well I am tacking back my support, he may have done this with any other Rotary engine, but probally not a Renesis. I don't think it will take a 150 shot without serious engine teardown and rebuild, and who would do that with a lease. Besides I think the lease thing is BS because after what he did to his first car who would lease him another just so he can do it again. It doesn't make since. Who is even to say he is the original ITO that left along time ago, it could all be a big conspiracy. If it's not finished, if you can't talk about it, if you have no helpful information to ad to the community than don't create a thread about. "I think the renesis can land 350hp with a 150 shot of NOS and a porting job", "I think the moon is made of gold" that doesn't mean you should make a thread about it if you aren't going to commment on it or provide evidence. Lets stick to the proven stuff, the stuff the real pioneers are doing, where they share the info they have found. Sorry man, I was a big supporter, and I don't even know you, but you pushed me to the other side.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Charles, you also don't tease everyone by making claims and then never prove it. If something is a secret, all aspects of it should be a secret. No teasers. At the very least, a realistic timeline should be followed if word must get out. Something like "I am beginning..", "I am trying...", "My ultimate goal is..." etc... You've stated that you have plans and ideas. That's great. I wish more people did. You haven't claimed to already have done them though and teased us with a new thread. That's the difference.

Personally I have just started my header project. The flanges are being drawn up in CAD this week and when I get those done they can get cut out at the machine shop. From there I start mocking up and testing the header. It isn't a project that will be done in the next month. It will go slow so I can learn. I am going to take pictures of everything as it happens. If it fails, it fails. If it works, we all knew what it took. I am also currently working on acquiring a 6 port Renesis and will be taking it apart to show flow in the ports and also what porting styles do and do not work. Hopefully I'll have the engine here within the next month or so. I don't want to keep things a secret. I'd rather educate the public so they know which shops to stay away from so people don't spend their money on bad products or services. I don't care if my car is the fastest. There's always a faster car out there somewhere. I'd rather be comfortable in knowing that everything on my car was done properly. I'm not a race team nor a business. I am trying to help other rotary owners. I do feel it my obligation to tell all I know and learn and will do so. Many of the things I will post this year from the flowbench will completely make porting "secrets" obsolete. It either works or doesn't.
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