MazdaManiac

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Could you direct me to them. (Links, please.)
I presume they are 300 HP as Pettit claims for this kit?

OldDragger, Phil, Joff, Bastage, Marsredr100, Shinka, Moon, Zen? Vicegrip, jskup1, Morkus? Any of you want to actually defend this?

For $7400, I'd think that someone would be kinda pissed of for not getting ANY of the results claimed above.

Bastage

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this is what's actually on their website, and not Jeff's BS of what they "claim":

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Highlights:
- 60-100 additional horsepower and torque with only 5-8 psi boost
- Superb drivability and overall performance
- Reliable and easy to maintain
- D.I.Y. installation, with easy to follow instructions
- Only the highest quality components
- More

Stage II Forced Induction Kit $5,995 w/o management

Fits all RX8 models both 4 and 6 port

Our latest release Stage II “CS” is capable of 280-300 whp, includes our PCM recal kit and the addition of a hi flow cat. Available for 04-07 manual trans model and 6-port automatics only.
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This is all at the following link:
http://www.pettitracing.com/rx8/index.htm

300 rwhp has been done on at least Cam and Roland's car. I think Norman got 296 rwhp. That means there are at least 4 customer cars here that are dynoing in the promised 280-300 range. Since you claim to have handled a "bunch" ( I call on that, but I'll humor you) of these kits, and you haven't had luck getting hp in this range, maybe it's you and your tuning skills that are to blame.

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The Stage II CS Kit can produce 300 whp and 195 lb/ft torque @ 5-7psi. Most of the added hp is a result of recalibrating the factory PCM. Other benefits include: Superb drivability, and clean smooth rock solid acceleration through the entire RPM range. Also with the stock PCM and OBD II diagnostics system fully functional there is no ck engine light unless something is wrong.
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Not a single untruth there. I have dynoed at 283 rwhp with 191 lb/ft torque, I have superb drivability, clean smooth rock solid acceleration through the entire rpm range. I don't get a check engine light unless something is wrong (haven't gotten one yet). They don't have to turn off CELs on their setup, unlike yours.

I'm sure all of your customers post up dynos too, right?

MazdaManiac

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I smell something burning.

Anyone actually want to defend this besides Bastage? (I'd suggest someone a bit less Hillary-esque. That is to say, less churlish and shrill.)

BTW, Gleyner, what were you doing on January 20th? Its an interesting story that others might enjoy.
It would be a fine companion piece to Moon's performance at SSX.

Bastage

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I'm sure they will when they log in. If I'm Hillary-esque, what does that make you, George-esque?

What happened on January 20th? Its an interesting story that others might enjoy.
It would be a fine companion piece to Moon's performance at SSX.

Edit:

Oh you're talking about Mazda WinterPalooza. Where you completely avoided looking at Juan and I in spite of the fact that you were there with your superfan Jason who was parked next to Juan's car? We figured if you were going to be a little girl and not even look in our direction or say hi to us, why should we say hi to you? Plus, I was already on your block list by that point.

If you're implying that I was "Moonishly" intimidated by your ~5'8 140 lb form, then please let us know.

If you doubt this, I will be happy to show you how unintimidated I am if our paths ever cross again... No, I'm not threatening you with violence, so don't start whining to everyone. I'm a peace-loving guy, but I want to get the record straight before you start trying to be that cute Mr. Tough Guy you've tried to be with Moon:

The only thing I was even remotely worried about was that you would be a dick and sabotage something under my hood when no one was looking. Yes, that's how your words have made many of us perceive you. Hopefully you'll realize that and fix it; it's not good for business.

Moon can barely walk, but if you want to use him to make you look like Mr. Tough Guy, then go ahead; we'll all get a laugh (at your expense) from it. In spite of that though I still think he can kick your *** if he had to

I on the other hand, would not tolerate that, and if that's what you're implying, then I'd be willing to extend to you the same kind of challenge I gave Jason. Since you'd never accept the challenge (like him), now would be a good time to start backtracking.

munche187

munche187

I wanted to go to that dyno day you were hosting in tampa but then you backed out. I would have been good since a third party would have actually been runing the dyno. All the he saids ahe saids would have been put to rest. I know Ray still went but it became a last minute thing when everyone confirmed and I had to submit my work schedule prior to them confirming.

Charles R. Hill

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For the record; Jeff wasn't "hosting" the meet and he didn't back out. We never had the numbers to support his appearance in the first place and I was scheduled to hit Tampa no matter what.

Also for the record; Carlos did a damned good job on the dyno for Scott and Eric, getting useful info on A/Fs, h.p., and torque.

None of this really matters anyway because we are running into the same lagerheads over and over and all you guys, MM included, are acting foolishly.

Bastage

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The voice of reason has spoken.

Put a leash on your boy, Charles

Charles R. Hill

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I would never condescend or act in an arrogant fashion toward anybody with such tactics or ideas that I should muzzle anybody. Not even Jeff. He is a good friend of mine and for great reasons. His altruism is often ignored in light of the way he is perceived around here.

Don't any of you wonder why it is that he and I get along so damned well when we seem to be polar opposites with our personalities? Perhaps he and I really are not as different as you all might think........

The reason I can stand in the middle of all this while all my friends fight over stupid **** is because I don't take any of this forum nonsense personally. I used to and I was subject to certain intimidations around here. Sometimes even from those who own the Pettit kit. Not anymore.

Had I been the one who pointed out the Okada coils recently and mistaken them for a recent development, I would have laughed at myself for being a little behind the curve and thanked whomever pointed that fact out to me. I wouldn't have FELT so swell about it, being a supposed professional and all, but I (nor anybody else) wouldn't have been pissed. Just embarrased. I don't have any idea how Moon felt and I am simply talking about my own perspectives here. I don't think Jeff meant any offense toward Moon with his comment....I think he was just playing around and stating what many may have been thinking. And if anybody thinks Moon needed defense on that matter.......why?

The best way to silence those who have opinions we don't like is to either reply with a stronger, more reason-based, argument or to ignore them completely. Jeff and I do one or the other with our private conversations all the time. This is why we get along. He pisses me off with his occasional nonsense and I am an emo-bitch about it all. We recognize this dynamic and actually have a little fun laughing at ourselves and each other. I wish all of you would allow yourselves the opportunity to see MM as I do.

BTW, I know exactly how to shut Jeff up and leave him stammering and stuttering but that is my secret.

munche187

I also know just send him pictures of red heads.

paulmasoner

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thanks for the link. at least thats one dyno.

i also do not/did not bother digging through the thread for dyno posts, and thats MY laziness. i barely look here anymore as its mostly pages of nonsense between anything usefull.

Bastage

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Don't tell me you flash him your *****?

J/K

olddragger

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I have never dynoed---but admit to all-- the ease of drive ability, the broad torque band, and my complete satisfaction with this kit. Is it perfect---no. None of the kits are. Is it a good supercharger kit--Hell yes.
H/p and torque? Just chasing fleas.
olddragger

munche187

It has it's ups and downs.lolol

It's on a down right now. hahahahahaha

Charles R. Hill

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Nope. Mine's too short to make it past the zipper. Now you know why Michelle REALLY dumped me.

marsredr100

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Sorry to heard that Ray.

I guess you don’t wear size 11 shoes.

olddragger

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Snow performance does sell a nitro blend for it's system---and it stays suspended. i will let you other guys play with that!
i am still learning how to control what i have now!
olddragger

marsredr100

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Here is a dyno sheet from 30 Nov 2007. Back then I didn't have my MSD ignition upgrade or my methanol kit installed. Engine RPM was 8600 per my request to the dyno owner since I don't like to go over that on a dyno. On the streets is another story...9000~9500 is what the doctor always ordered.

MazdaManiac

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Now THAT is a nice looking dyno (minus the valving spikes, which are at least positive torque hits).
More importantly, its a realistic output for the amount of air the blower is producing and the shape is consistent with the native Ve of this motor.

Rote8

Ask and you shall receive:
Um, look in my garage here on the site, or in my signature for the RWHP.

I am cat-less, so I suppose it matches a high-flow cat on other Pettit S/C installs.
Note the location of the dyno in Winter Springs, it was not dyno'd at Pettit.

PS: It was still building at 9K...


Alright, somebody tell me how to do the pop-up image from my garage.

Moon Assad

Ignition coils, did I hear somthing about ignition coils, have any of you yet tried to prove me wrong yet, FLASHBACK, hey Jeff, hold one of the spotted coils, rev 9k and tell me if it tickles. Bawk Bawk, please I want ya to prove me wrong.

Rote8

Was that pull in 3rd gear, I spin the dyno to fast in 4th, and it gives crazy torque readings. ( or I really am making 465 foot lbs? )

Rote8

Mine's still not here.

Charles R. Hill

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Moon, grow up.

Rote8

Story time:
My 11th grade year, I had a Dodge Dart with a 360 I had stuffed into it; headers/4 barrel Holley/ Chrysler electronic ignition.
The Chrysler Electronic distributor "looks" like the points distributor, but has 100,000 volts at the plug.
I was broke down at some parking lot. (I think it turned out to be fuel pump)
I guy from school wanted to check for spark by holding a plug wire, I told him "don't do it to this because it's electronic ignition".
He argued, it wasn't 100,000 volts and that he "does this all the time". (Hold my Beer?)
He was about a foot from the car, holding the plug wire, when I spun the motor.
I saw a fat blue spark jump between his belly to the car; when he got up off the ground, he said his mouth "tastes like a light bulb".