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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Sure it is.

BTW - Mr. Hanky likes blueberry coffee rolls?
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Any particular reason you are driving at 156 MPH?
We were coming home on a rural HighWay late last night . It's in the middle of no where there are only 2 gas stations in 30 mile stretch. I had just put gas a few minutes prior. There was no other vehicle on the road and I really needed to get home and take a ****.

I think it was the blueberry coffee rolls I had at the party.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by munche187
We were coming home on a rural HighWay late last night . It's in the middle of no where there are only 2 gas stations in 30 mile stretch. I had just put gas a few minutes prior. There was no other vehicle on the road and I really needed to get home and take a ****.
That's a pretty reasonable explanation.
I don't have any problems with high-speed driving.
I just that too often, people do that while they are sharing the road.
There are a few sections between here and Vegas that I cruise pretty regularly at 135+, but I drop back to 90 or so when I have to pass another car.

What have you done to your suspension?
I find the RX-8's steering gets way too light above 130.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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I know your human just like us and bend the rules here and there. lolol
I do the same when there is traffic I slow back down to whatever the flow is until I can safely break away from the pack.

The suspension is stock for right now saving money for future mods. I am thinking of either the Tein or K sport coil overs.

I wasn't at that speed for too long. I just wanted to stretch her leggs a little. I did need to get home and unload.

I have 18X9.5 all the way around on 245s. That did help before your are correct after 130mph the car does tend to get light. Also the vented hood in my opinion has added some down force to the equation.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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I think laws are for everyone but me.
However, the laws of physics enforce themselves.
Furthermore, if you have ever stood on the upper level of a shopping mall and watched how people walk around, you'll get a good idea of how randomly they drive.
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Furthermore, if you have ever stood on the upper level of a shopping mall and watched how people walk around, you'll get a good idea of how randomly they drive.
Oh I have done that but never related it to their driving habits.

**** what a scary thought.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by munche187
... and I really needed to get home and take a ****.
Which is a perfectly reasonable, life-critical / emergency excuse. Because we all know what happens: if you don't ****, you die.

Cheers,
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by munche187
Oh I have done that but never related it to their driving habits.

**** what a scary thought.
You will now!
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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I always assume that every other driver on the road is out to get me and will do whatever they possibly can to kill both of us.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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^^ Must be/have been a motorcycle rider That attitude has kept me alive more than once over the years
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:28 AM
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yeah my brothers motorbike instructor told him that if you are on a motorbike and in an accident, it ALWAYS your fault, as you have to think for yourself AND the other person....

Good advice I reckon.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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^^ Must be/have been a motorcycle rider That attitude has kept me alive more than once over the years
riding my motorcylcle is my version of the best video game ever.. the name of the game is THEY ARE ALL TRYING TO KILL YOU....

if you lose you lose.


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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I always assume that every other driver on the road is out to get me and will do whatever they possibly can to kill both of us.
You must live in FL?
I almost die on a daily basis, its my agressive driving that keeps me alive, and my exhuast that probably alterts people when to keep the f**k out of my way.
anyway, I hope everyone gets the change to top out their car at least once. Its exhilarating.. Ive gone 165 in our BMW850, but the 8 at 152 was funner. I know our top speed is supposedly drag enforced, but has anyone with FI broken 155?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Take a look at post #923. I agree to an extent on the driving thing as I have driven commercial trucks and the way people wear blinders when driving is ridiculous. However, I have also discovered my gas pedal to be a better way of avoiding trouble than my brake pedal.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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my exhuast that probably alterts people when to keep the f**k out of my way.
anyway, but has anyone with FI broken 155?
lolol I Since I tool the CAT out it has made driving better. Everyone hears me coming if they don't move and I rev the engine they get out quick.

Check earliewr posts I posted a pic of my GPS when I topped out at 156mph. There is room for a little more but I don't have the suspension needed and I should add a different wing to add more down force.

Do you guys think the Mazda spped one would be good enough?

I don't want to have to get some big as ugly wing.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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150 is not fast enough for a normal (not the MS, anyway) wing to produce any useful downforce.
Plus, its not the back end you want to stick.
You need to change the airflow under the car. A splitter (a real one that is bolted to the frame, not a fake, stick-on model) and a rear diffuser will do more for keeping down the float than the MS wing.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
150 is not fast enough for a normal (not the MS, anyway) wing to produce any useful downforce.
Plus, its not the back end you want to stick.
You need to change the airflow under the car. A splitter (a real one that is bolted to the frame, not a fake, stick-on model) and a rear diffuser will do more for keeping down the float than the MS wing.
I agree but where in hell can you find one? If there is any engineering and drawings as to what it should look like for our cars and where it should attach maybe I can have one made. Not being an engineer keeps me from designing one or looking at someone else's offering for our use.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by munche187
lolol I Since I tool the CAT out it has made driving better. Everyone hears me coming if they don't move and I rev the engine they get out quick.

Check earliewr posts I posted a pic of my GPS when I topped out at 156mph. There is room for a little more but I don't have the suspension needed and I should add a different wing to add more down force.

Do you guys think the Mazda spped one would be good enough?

I don't want to have to get some big as ugly wing.
You might wanna get a roll cage and a good five point harness instead of the wing first!

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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
You might wanna get a roll cage and a good four point harness instead of the wing!
I agree that the addition of the roll cage and a five point harness is a good idea, but the addition of the front splitter would offer enough high speed down force to make the car more stable at high speeds. The existing appearance package wing is just coming into being useful at 130mph and offers no real front end down force that is needed. We have so many engineers that post on the forum, one of them should be able to design a splitter to offer down force that will keep the 8 from becoming airborne at 150mph
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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funny I was just thinking the same thing----for the 1st time since my install, i went thru 4th and a little in 5th so i let up at around 130. 2 lane road.
After having the na version on the track many time---guess I have about 1.5k miles on the track with her--- I can say this. This changes everything.:0
Let me explain my opinion:
1-- before on the track this was basically a momentum car. This means that lines are taken to keep the momentum up and you focused on making up ground in braking zones and the corners. In the exit speed was high enough then you had a fair chance on the straightaways. The car was like a go kart in a way---very toss able and easy to recover. There was little lift throttle over steer, or full throttle under steer. Easy to drive through the corners. High speeds (over 115 or so) was stable and you felt connected.
Oh by the way I have a GT oem stock exterior --no appearance kit , no wing.
i have koni's (yellows) and tein h springs with RB rollbars and end links. I run stock brakes with carbotec xp8's. ss lines and the ms front brace with master cylinder brace Super blue fluid. I run 17x8 wheels with hoosiers 225/45/17.
Nothing really special but a good basic package.
2--well things have changed!! No longer a momentum car. More lift throttle understeer and a LOT more full throttle oversteer on exit. Things have to change but where do i begin?
When i was at high speed and still accelerating the car felt "light' and the steering was not as connected as before.l
Ok I have a fair amount of front end lift all the way thru 4th gear. This means my chassis is going to be going thru much more lift, dip and even yaw at certain times.. Now what do I do? Air kit? If I get a front lip/splitter i will also have to get a rear diffuser. And i really dont like that look. If I stiffen the suspension more the rear end is going to get even MORE tail happy.
i really hate to admit this but looks like I am going to have to speak with the vettes and Stangs crowds.
Back to square one as far as tracking!
Also it looks like I will lose my track cherry at one of the hardest tracks around Road Atlanta in March.
Suggestions?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Maybe I can get a fat chick to sit on the tip of my hood.


Think she'll give me enough down force.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Holy Mother of God! And we wonder why out health insurance premiums are so high.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Could've gone my whole life without seeing that! Thanks!
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
Could've gone my whole life without seeing that! Thanks!
Originally Posted by munche187
Maybe I can get a fat chick to sit on the tip of my hood.
I thing crush the hood would be more like it. Might be too much down force cuz the rear wheels would be off the ground.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Technically, a front splitter is a piece of cake.
Fitment on a street vehicle is going to be the issue.
If you just take the line of the lower accent on the MS bumper and extend it out in all directions about 2" you will have the piece. Except that it has to go all the way under the front of the car and be bolted solidly to the lower parts of the frame.
In CF, it would only need to be 3/8" thick. In aluminum, it could be done in 8 - 10 GA.
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