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Old 01-05-2010, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Flashwing
I'm sure AEM has filter sizes that would fit your application so that's an option.
Sorry, Bro, AEM does not have a filter size needed to do as I did with Phil's air filter location. Otherwise I would have used one. They may have one in a size Denny would need/want, though.

Something I wonder about the sand issue; how many laps in those racecars were spent behind other cars that repeatedly clipped apexes too close or ran off-course throwing dust around the place?

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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Sorry, Bro, AEM does not have a filter size needed to do as I did with Phil's air filter location. Otherwise I would have used one. They may have one in a size Denny would need/want, though.
So does that make me 1/2 right or totally wrong?
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Makes me stupid for glossing over what you wrote.
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how about a S.Steel air filter (like blitz) ?
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original question:
Should the vdi line, coming off from next to the black connector in the vaccum tank thing, be blocked off? If so why? Sorry for the dumb questions.

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I don't know...I thought it would be better to be blocked
don't want to let a vaccum line always open
its not open, its routed same as before the sc went on,

searching around i've seen its been capped off, why is that?
i've been running with it connected, is that a problem?

anyone?
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Originally Posted by JMKuco
how about a S.Steel air filter (like blitz) ?
I had one of those a few years ago and I am not confident that it can filter microns as small as the OEM filter or even an AEM Dri-Flo.

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metal filter is the worse in filtering ability period.

Speed source did in fact have trouble in the early days with k&N out side the engine bay. This was during the developement stage.
Dirt kicked up on the race track is no different that the dust and dirt that is kicked up on the road.
The sand Eric found in the oil pan was more like a dust than beach sand.

I have come to not trust a air filter I have to oil to insure filtering. To many what if's.
Thanks for the aem feedback guys---Airraid MAY be a workable brand--looking into it. Some made for deisel trucks that may work.
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God played a joke on humanity by making nothing absolute. Period.
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if we had absoulutes then we couldnt have free associations.
So I am doomed to remain bought tempted and confused all my life.
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Exactly. And then try to make a living with all the variables life has included in it!

Which swaybars are the best?
Which coilovers are the best?
Which F/I is the best?
Which cat-back is the best?

Ad nauseum, but I love this job......
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I have to agree with Charles initials statements of residue will build up no matter how much you filter. Using K&N filters in my Sprint Car racing days on dirt with pre-filter covers that go over the filter itself, residue even if slight still got in with all the mud and dust we kicked up.

My parents neighbor owns a parts warehouse that brands namely WIX filters and they went to a seminar that showed how the K&N filters fell apart easily degrading while the WIX ones held up much better. If you're really worried about keeping it clean, spray a light oil protective compound over the filter to catch more particles, get a pre-filter to go over the filter itself and take the filter off each weekend to clean up inside. The only real assurance you have is your own preventative maintenance.
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one of my dads maxims (in fact my favourite of his) is :
"Tastes and colours cannot be discussed"

It would save many a stupid internet argument if people realised that!

PS Happy New Year everyone!

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talking with some desert guys seems foam overlay on the k&n is the best way of dealing with this if you dont do paper
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Originally Posted by olddragger
talking with some desert guys seems foam overlay on the k&n is the best way of dealing with this if you dont do paper
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how about the greddy or hks "mushroom" air filter ?
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Lord no---worse non metal filter out there!

I have wondered why my K&N seems to never get dirty
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why is it worse ?
When I see this damned price I thought they were at least good to use ?
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they dont filter down to a small enought size of particle.
If you are stuck with it ---then at least add some K&N open cell foam around it.
That will help a lot.
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I will check my K&N today, I am sure it needs oil.
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i am actually looking at a big shop vac filter/--would have to make a custom mounting plate........
actually can get a heppa type!
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careful with Heppa, we have to go through health inspections at work before we're allowed to dawn Heppa, becasue it actually restricts breathing, I cant imagine what it would do on something breathing in 300+g/s ...
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I want a Dyson air filter...
Filters the air and picks up pet hair too.
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na --- not going to heppa it--but after removing my k&N (which was oiled only 1 month ago) and being able to see clean areas of light coming through tiny holes---i did place a open cell foam wrap around it. this helps
I havent made up my mind what to do about the air filter yet.
I want to keep it in the engine bay, i just got a temp measuring tool so i can monitor the temp at the air filter to try and see if i have enough cool air coming in during driving (wish we could monitor the iat with the efi dude). Winter time doesnt help with this.
If I am not then its either installing the yaris air duct or outside the engine bay i go in some sort of protected area.
Either way i will not ever be running a plain k&n anymore.
I also have to make a filter heat shield---sigh.
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well data shows conclusivly that a air cleaner heat shield is needed. Temps can go up 20 degrees in my car with just 1/2 throttle application.
Temps measured on the air filter---so when it is sucking in underhood air--temps rise fast.
i do have air movement in there as during cruise it cools down---but the area needs sealing.
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Originally Posted by olddragger
na --- not going to heppa it--but after removing my k&N (which was oiled only 1 month ago) and being able to see clean areas of light coming through tiny holes---i did place a open cell foam wrap around it. this helps
OD, thanks for the info on the K&N foam. I never knew such a thing existed. This has been added to my upcoming spring maintenance plans.

Anyone happen to know the dimensions of the filter in the Racing Beat REV-i kit? Mine is burried under a foot of snow at the moment.

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its big! And custom--so you will have to make your on. Not hard to do.


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