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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Hell yeah - I used to use it all the time.

My Software button Says "Optimize My Fuel Bitch!!!" on it; so the precedent is there....
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
I have documentation on Lysholm units. They typically draw 5hp more than the Autorotor ones. Off the top of my head the RX-8 draw from Lysholm was around 30hp at 8psi.
That is substantially less, IMO, than the 50hp posted earlier.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kane
Do Until [Tired of BS] = "yes"
Call SC_is_mo_better_science()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Call TC_is_mo_better_science()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Call not_ugh()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Call uhh_huh()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Call various_dyno_proof()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Call various_dyno_rebuttals()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Call circular_logic()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Call other_poster_is_a_poo_poo_head_and_fanboi()
If Postcount On Subject < 100 Then [Tired of BS] = "no" Else [Tired of BS] = "yes" End If
Loop


There - just run this little program to find out what happens.
lol sad but true....
Moon I thought you said you were gonna behave.....
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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And if you look at the factory units and the way they configure them for testing your going to see a SPRING loaded bypass valve so 1 1/2 HP isnt going to be the load at idle with the Pettit setup maybe 1/2. As for PSI rating, you have to take flow rate into consideration, if you allow as much airflow that your intake can except your never going to see 30 psi withought overspinning the blower and or engine. Would you like to take a wild guess what your tac would read to see 30 psi and not overspin the 1.7. Not that your overspinning the 1.7, your about 700 RPM short at 9K. Why do you think im trying a bigger blower???? What if its going to make 25 psi and not overspin.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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what the fella said is true in general terms --any fi system can be set up good or bad. Turbos can develop power at low rpms, s.c can get up top power--just all depends. Its like cooking spaghetti.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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well winter is really here in Ga--so I have an ignition system to build---the ms coils actually spec out ok and they sure look stout enough--the igniter box may have been the problem--wonder if i could just hook them up without an igniter box? They have 3 pin d type connectors.
Thoughts ?
I also have a fuel starvation/cut fix to work on(stay tuned someone will have to post pics for me!) and I do have a plan!
OD
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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More MAF

I made this one this morning, the screen shot number is clearer on this picture.
Almost my best ever MAF reading.


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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
well winter is really here in Ga--so I have an ignition system to build---the ms coils actually spec out ok and they sure look stout enough--the igniter box may have been the problem--wonder if i could just hook them up without an igniter box? They have 3 pin d type connectors.
Thoughts ?
I also have a fuel starvation/cut fix to work on(stay tuned someone will have to post pics for me!) and I do have a plan!
OD
I don't think they'll work that way.

Just get the yukon coils, they're cheaper than the OEM ones and are much better. Send Juan a PM about the connectors (4-pin), or give Ray a call and he'll hook you up.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bastage
Seriously. I want to see Norm's car on a dyno.
I need the larger injectors, my thought is the stock secondary ones from a four port.
I can also put out the stock coils spark like a candle in a tornado.

It would be fun to "see what it does", before doing the above mods.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rote8
I made this one this morning, the screen shot number is clearer on this picture.
Almost my best ever MAF reading.

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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rote8
I made this one this morning, the screen shot number is clearer on this picture.
Almost my best ever MAF reading.

shizzle ****!!!

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 03:42 AM
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Hesus Christos! That's a lot of MAF!

Is yours just a stock setup, or what else have you done. With that much flow you must be getting into the fuel / spark / injectors issues no?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by california style
Hesus Christos! That's a lot of MAF!

Is yours just a stock setup, or what else have you done. With that much flow you must be getting into the fuel / spark / injectors issues no?
I am hopeful it's not the "fuel", I am planning on changing secondary injectors and going with LS1 coils.

I am itching to get a dyno reading.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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may also look at fuel pressure issues!
what gear was that pull?
you on oem ignition?
OD
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Just for your edification, this is what the MAF/Load values are for my turbo car at 9 PSI:



This is just a casual rip through second and third on my street. Didn't even take it to redline.

As you can see, the MAF is pegged at its maximum value (369 g/sec) so, who knows what its actual flow is.
ABSLoad hits 2 in some spots (also pegged) - all at considerably fewer RPM than the S/C.
Fortunately, the fuel calculations continue to stretch until the end of the available injector flow or this would all end very badly.

So, take your understanding of power and how it relates to MAF flow with a grain of salt.

Data is below.
Attached Thumbnails Pettit Super Charger Owners-first.jpg   Pettit Super Charger Owners-second.jpg   Pettit Super Charger Owners-chart.jpg  

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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nice MM, Nice

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
may also look at fuel pressure issues!
what gear was that pull?
you on oem ignition?
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I think it was second, and yes, "fresh" OEM coils
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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For basic reference:

370 g/sec = 49 lbs/min = 426 crank HP

Give or take a few.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
This is just a casual rip through second and third on my street. .
They must lurve you !

at only 9psi - holy carp - i'm at only 314g/s at 8 psi and 7500 !!!!
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
They must lurve you !
Well, not actually my street. Kinda the next one over.
The big one with 4 lanes and no houses.
I'm here.
My personal dragstrip is here.

Originally Posted by Brettus
at only 9psi - holy carp - i'm at only 314g/s at 8 psi and 7500 !!!!
Well, bigger turbo!

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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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have you counted up how many swimming pools in your area ? looks like you have a choice for your back yard - cactus or a swimming pool
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
have you counted up how many swimming pools in your area ? looks like you have a choice for your back yard - cactus or a swimming pool
Well, it is the desert!
You can knock $20k USD off the value of your house if you don't have a pool.
I've got both. And a mountain.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Well, it is the desert!
You can knock $20k USD off the value of your house if you don't have a pool.
Wouldn't that take the value of the house into the negative given all the housing market crash :0 j/k

Cheers,
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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/\ nice one hymee
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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get readings in 6th gear over approx 12 second pull --mine was at approx 132.3 mph
you should have felt the G's as my carbotec xp8's clamped down( on 275 nittos)!!
You can see God sometimes in a braking zone.
OD
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