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Old 10-07-2006, 11:35 PM
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Got a link?
could be wrong, but he did say first hand, so i doubt it was online.

and btw, i'm loving this project, i've spent well over 9k on my turbo kit, and and could have gotten a 350hp 13B-REW for that, that has a much larger power potential, but i can't complain, i'm loving it now. and i do like looking under the hood, lol. but with what i have in it, once i figure out my problem with the motor, (and possibly get it rebuilt) i see no reason why i can't surpass the 400 wheel mark on race fuel and water injection, and i do want to stick with the renesis.

but good luck to you, and i can't wait to see what kind of numbers you can pull out of it, i mean even if you only hit 250 wheel, that more power than the pettite SC kit and for less money, plus you will have a blow off valve lol (I love BOVs)


but i did have one question, and mabey you have already answered it but i didn't see, are you doing anything about an intercooler, i don't know if you have one yet or not, but if i were you i might not even run one at first, mabey add t when you do the fuel system. reason being is its going to be far enought away from the turbo that it will have plenty of room to cool, the only problem would be heat soak from the exhaust, and a fix for that would be exhaust wrap. and thats something i would suggest anyway, not only is it going to lower the temps arounf the exhaust but tis going to keep more of the heat inside the pipe, which will help keep it up to speed slightly. Honestly i doubt you would see any changes in numbers on a dyno between the two setups, and the wrap is going to cost about the same as an intercooler, but it would be a little easier to fabricate, and when both the wrap and intercooler are usedin cunjunction later on, you most likely would see more gains

i mean i see tons of top notch race cars with thier entire exhaust wraped all the way to the rear, even with conventional style turbo setups and even N/A.
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Originally Posted by sixgen3sgte
but i did have one question, and maybe you have already answered it but i didn't see, are you doing anything about an intercooler...

I already installed the Intercooler. no pumping yet though.
I wrote about it on page 4. in one of my progress report posts.
and thanks for the support.


As of now.
I received my waistgate flange and the actuator, so yesterday I finished the hot side plumping and the the turbo setup, The entire piece is ready to go into the car, so today I will be taking the car offline. :-)
Pictures will follow.

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ok cool, can't wait
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OK,
here is what I got so far...
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And one more:
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all mufflers should be built this way
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i second that
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Roto man your setup look sick, I hope it all works out for you.
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I't'll work out just fine, man :-)
That exhaust gas got nowhere else to go but through the turbine.

A question for the you guys.
I keep getting confused as to how to setup the boost controller.
I got this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-T...34931215QQrdZ1

anyone has a diagram as to how to put it in?
I have my guesses, plus I saw some diagrams online as to how it should work, but they are different, so i am confused.

Any Ideas?
Oh and I have a dual port internal waistgate.
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Anyone??? ^^^
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yeah there are different ways for internal or external wastegates, i don't have any diagrams though, and mine is external so i would probably only cause more confusion lol
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Progress:

Received and installed Int-X
Except for my own stupidity due to late night installation and being tired, thus sticking a VAC hose into a "wrong hole" so to speak :-) I had no issues with it.
Fixed it in the morning and drove the car to work. Works great.
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Progress:
Intercooler plumping is 80% done.
Here are some pics from the last couple of days.
Enjoy.
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so its a 4 port? wat size turbo? and nice setup btw. Are you doing this work yourself and how much have you spent so far?
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Wow... just wow. Very interesting build. Just like everyone else I can't wait to see the outcome.

As for the intercooler, do you not think that it might be too big. From what I understand STS doesn't even run one. Are you not worried about pressure loss?
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where is your mas air?

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Originally Posted by romycha1
Wow... just wow. Very interesting build. Just like everyone else I can't wait to see the outcome.

As for the intercooler, do you not think that it might be too big. From what I understand STS doesn't even run one. Are you not worried about pressure loss?
STS does run an intercooler when they run higher boost levels. Typically they just stick to 5 psi or so without one.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
STS does run an intercooler when they run higher boost levels. Typically they just stick to 5 psi or so without one.
Didn't know that... but good to know.

But, not to beat a dead horse, isn't that intercooler quite large for being a rear-mount?
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so its a 4 port? wat size turbo? and nice setup btw. Are you doing this work yourself and how much have you spent so far?
What brought you to make such conclusion? In any case, it is not.
It is a 6 port 6 sp MT.
Yes, I am doing all the work myself. the costs are discussed thoroughly in this thread just on the previous page I believe. It is so far hovering just under 3K.


Originally Posted by sixgen3sgte
where is your mas air?
Int-X doesn't depend on MAF so it is not needed. I keep it connected, and tucked in on the side behind the fuse box so that the PCM sees it and don't complain, but the engine runs the same with or without it.

As for a large Intercooler, Is it really that large?
Well this just means that I can run colder and thus denser charge.
More fuel at less #. Or I can run Higher pressure if need to without risking detonation.

As for the pressure drop: it is a relative term. I will be measuring the pressure from the throttle body. That is where the Int-X reads from, that is where my gauges will be connected. I could care less what pressure will be at the other end of the intercooler, as long as my target pressure at the TB is steady and held well.

The only issue that I am concerned with is the time it will take to pressurise the thing bringing the system to the desired boost level.
We'll just have to wait and see.

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yeah sorry i had a brain fart and forgot you had the interceptor.


and as for the intercooler, if it takes too long to boost once itsup and running, the first thing i'ld do is just put a pipe in place of the inter cooler just to see if it will make a dif. or not.
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If it's that bad, I may consider doing it, but my goal is powerful drivability, not an instant boost. if it builds up smooth and gradual, with the pick HP all the way up near the red line, that is what I want.
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Are you going to be tuning the int-x yourself?
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Originally Posted by romycha1
Are you going to be tuning the int-x yourself?
With the help of the god almighty

Not sure yet. Ultimately I'd like to learn how to do that, so I might as well try, or just take it somewhere for a tune.

Guys, Any rotary tuners in West Palm/Boca, FL area who know how to tune with Interceptor?
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Isn't Mazsport in Florida?


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