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Old 01-22-2008, 08:51 PM
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All guessing aside....Hymee get this done....we want this done yesterday!
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very true, very true. thanks for the input Jeff /Dannobre , yall are exactly right--if all the lookup tables can be changed and still keep the flexibility of the oem system---you have a WINNER! I know some that are very close.
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If they can access all of the data on the PCM...then this will kick ***......Even if the system can retain 90% of the functionality of the stock PCM..this will be a winner!

just being able to use the knock tables..and alter the load tables and lamba tables will be awesome. Some alteration of the throttle routines would be nice too!
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Wooot!!!! i cant wait
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hymee, did you ever get your new throttle body built?
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Since the sCANalyser supports LS series engines, will the reflash ability work for those as well?
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I wonder how much my interceptor-x will be worth once this comes out. lol

We wont even be able to give them away.
Old 01-22-2008, 11:41 PM
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competition is always good for the consumer.

but i dont see a drastic drop in the int-x's value.
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I think there will be. Hymee's release, Cobb's, Pettit going to flashes and their older int-x using customers dumping them into the used market...
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Yep.

I dont see any reason why anyone would buy a used int-x for more than what the sCANalyzer costs.
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I wonder if that metal box was ever really worth $1400 in the first place.
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Can you build one?

If so - then you can do the same thing for less. If not - then you are paying for someone else's time; which is not cheap.
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I have much respect for Mazsport's products, so I'm not doubting the quality of the unit. I'm merely intrigued by market trends.

E: I also wonder how much of a learning curve there will be with Hymee's solution.

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Originally Posted by turborx8
Yep.

I dont see any reason why anyone would buy a used int-x for more than what the sCANalyzer costs.
Because some of us dont want to use a 5" intake pipe to get the MAF to the point where it can actually read a usable value for the amount of boost we are running =).

Now, back on topic. THIS KICKS ***! I think it will be interesting to see how much air the stock MAF can handle.
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I think you all are reading the Racing Beat information the wrong way. Im going to email JM for clarification. I believe they only used that process of removing the 02 sensor for developing their tune and that when he writes about "chasing the trims" he is only talking about during that development process.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
I think you all are reading the Racing Beat information the wrong way. Im going to email JM for clarification. I believe they only used that process of removing the 02 sensor for developing their tune and that when he writes about "chasing the trims" he is only talking about during that development process.
that would be my take on it as well
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TPS, rev limit, fan control are all accessable now . With enough money you can get your pcm hard tuned for YOUR car now. The trick is getting the pcm tune flexable enough for different set ups/temps/altitudes etc and still be a so called "safe tune"
and continue to have learning capacity so optimum tune for your car is obtainable.
Someone will get this done, several really good folks working on it--hope this product does it.
Dont forget RB had to pull the o2 sensor AND the knock sensor to get their flash done. It will be interesting to hear what they say.
The INT X offers much more individuallity with tuning than a flash. True is is not an adaptive tune but dont forget it's other features as far as real time data logging, map changing, soft/hard rev cut, shift light support, parking map, password protection, tuning individual rotors and other stuff. It still is a good product.
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Originally Posted by slavearm
Because some of us dont want to use a 5" intake pipe to get the MAF to the point where it can actually read a usable value for the amount of boost we are running =).
You intend to put 58 pounds of air through a Renesis?
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Originally Posted by slavearm
Because some of us dont want to use a 5" intake pipe to get the MAF to the point where it can actually read a usable value for the amount of boost we are running =).

Now, back on topic. THIS KICKS ***! I think it will be interesting to see how much air the stock MAF can handle.

That is exactly the reason why you would want to reflash, especially if the MAF scaling can be altered.

Cheers,
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
You intend to put 58 pounds of air through a Renesis?
Meh... you know what I meant. I think it looks goofy having a huge tube with your MAF connected to it.

Originally Posted by Hymee
That is exactly the reason why you would want to reflash, especially if the MAF scaling can be altered.

Cheers,
Hymee.
I may be lost here, but the MAF has an absolute limit to the voltage it can display. You reach a certain amount of air, and the MAF displays 5v or whatever the max voltage is. How can you scale it at that point without replacing the pipe the MAF connects to with a larger pipe, or changing the MAF?


Oh and a question.... how are you dealing with larger injectors? Just scaling the map back?
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The 5v limit on the stock MAF is probably good out to ~450 HP of airflow (340 g/sec) or so.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The 5v limit on the stock MAF is probably good out to ~450 HP of airflow (340 g/sec) or so.


<--- Pwned. Continue On. I accidentally comingled some data from GTAW's comments before, and then realized there was an issue with the way he had the MAF implemented.
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Hymlee--thank you!
Good luck dude, i know the hard work and wrench time is being done.
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It would be very easy to simply turn the VFAD output into a NO2 control and then assign it to the appropriate load level.
Think how cool that would be.
Just leave the NO2 armed and it'll start spraying when the engine is ready for it, based on what you tell the engine to do with your right foot.

You could assign the "VFAD" to open only at certain RPM, MAF readings, TPS, gears or anything else.


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