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Old 11-22-2011, 10:41 AM
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esmeril turbo

Hey guys I've been peaking in and out of some of the turbo threads and was wondering what everyone thought about the Esmeril Standard Turbo Kit. Whether it being a good buy or not.
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Would you recommend this over the greddy at all?
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I'm looking for an easy 300rwhp upgrade
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You are basically just asking for people to give you their opinion on something that is highly personal to you, and/or trying to get spoon fed information about the turbo kits.



Read this and then think a bit about if you really want to keep posting along this line...


Why are we so hard / harsh on newbies?
You may notice that many new owners join this forum and promptly create a thread that generates lots of negative feedback from the people already here, the newbie ends up getting butthurt about it and claims it's a "mean forum" or "we are all dicks", etc... Not every newbie of course, and just the fact that you are reading this thread means you probably won't subject yourself to that. But why do we do it?

Here is a fantastic post from TeamRX8 on why.
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This involves several issues. The first being that you can't see beyond your own immediate needs and wants. This is not Wiki8Club. It took many of us years and years of involvement and reading to amass the knowledge.

Imagine somebody coming here daily, in fact it is often multiple people daily, asking if not demanding the same information over and over again. We are not your on demand servants. We are people just like you with other priorities and demands in our lives, limited time, our own personal interests for being here, etc. Why should we spend that time catering to people that come here seeking instant gratification?

That leaves us with two options. We can either ignore you completely or we can tell that the info is here if you bother to make the effort. However, over several years of telling people this you eventually get fed up dealing with the continuous stream of people seeking instant gratification yet you still would rather point them in the right direction so you just bark at them to get the point across. Imagine someone coming to your house, going to your living room, pulling their pants down, and taking a dump right there on the carpet just because they didn't know any better. You might be annoyed and yet also understanding because they didn't know any better. Now imagine this being a different person doing this every day. It wouldn't be long before you just as soon they go away and never come back.

Almost every day there is some clueless dolt posting a tech or troubleshooting question in the DiY area, despite there being a sticky thread at the top saying to only post threads there with DIY instructions and subsequent discussion of same. The real issue is that people think they are free to just come here and do as they damn well please and there's no need for etiquette, rules, structure, or organization unless it serves their own personal interest.

Well guess what? We're not here to cater to new uninformed people that come in here trampling all over everything regardless if they're ignorant, just don't care, or whatever. This is like any social community and so if you make waves you better expect to deal with it. If you don't like it then get the f' out because the established community could care less about some newbie whining about not getting what they want immediately. We do care about you clogging up the search engine with useless threads on already established subjects, which there is a dedicated thread on this very subject in this same forum area no less. It took me 10 minutes to explain this. Now imagine multiple people daily requiring it, so you make a Sticky thread at the top that says "read this first" and yet every single new person just like yourself thinks they are beyond trying to fit in properly so that this forum operates smoothly for all of us.

You probably don't read Japanese, but the line in my sig is a well known Japanese proverb that reads "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". You made yourself that nail.

Most of the people that are being the hammer for those nails use either the New Posts feature (https://www.rx8club.com/search.php?do=getnew) or the Live! feature (https://www.rx8club.com/misc.php?product=vblive) (both are in your top bar under the banner), and see posts with issues pretty quickly. We do not use these features with the express intention of flaming and bashing. We use them so that when someone posts up an actual issue that needs actual help, we can react quickly to their request.

We do not do this because we are paid to do it, we do it because we believe in our community (at one level or another). We want to improve it and make it better, so as we have time during our normal lives we look for issues we can help with, we look for new ideas, new projects, etc... But, in the process, we see all the garbage that people clutter the forum with because they feel themselves above reading what has already been posted, and that garbage gets to us.
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I'm not trying to get everyone to respond to me. If you don't want to respond because I'm a newbie then that's up to you.
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If you do buy it don't use their interceptorX ECU, car will run like crap at anything out of boost compared to the stock ECU. We sell a nice replacement ECU

http://turblown.net/store/index.php?productID=254

You will also want to heavily heat shield and modify the coolant lines, as they will melt over time. I am currently fixing all those issues on a car with their kit...
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Nice so the coolant lines need to be modified and get the piggy back. That's not so bad. Just a question about the ecu though. I'm curious, when you say the stock ecu is better than the interceptorX ecu, would I be able to just get a cobb?
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Originally Posted by DannyRX8
Nice so the coolant lines need to be modified and get the piggy back. That's not so bad. Just a question about the ecu though. I'm curious, when you say the stock ecu is better than the interceptorX ecu, would I be able to just get a cobb?
Did you even read RWWIP's post? It's obvious you know nothing about forced induction on an RX-8 so do yourself a favor and start researching, not asking random questions.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Did you even read RWWIP's post? It's obvious you know nothing about forced induction on an RX-8 so do yourself a favor and start researching, not asking random questions.
Alright sorry
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Did you even read the turbo kit's thread? It looks like there are some delays...
Given your goals i'd highly consider other options too, possibly MAF friendly ones.
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Alright sorry
Not trying to be a dick man but the info you seek has been discussed many times and is in one location. Not researching a forced induction project can be very very costly and many who have taken on the project in a half assed manner end up with a unusable RX-8 or spending a lot more replacing things that were broken as a result of poor planning and execution. Every turbo kit has it's benefits and drawbacks, don't get caught up on horsepower figures.
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I understand what you're saying. I can see how it can get obnoxious when people ask questions that already have been answered. Yeah, I have to do some more research.
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