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Turned out we had a little more fuel up our sleeves .... setup now making mid 300s on only 10psi (as it should) after midpipe went from 21/2" to 3". Made a big difference ...the beast has been unleashed!
Ambient temps below 10C def helping peak power ...
Because it’s the same length and height, but only 3” wide rather than 3.5” (less volume), yet is much more efficient. Which is why it’s flow rated for 585 rotary whp despite being slightly smaller volume. The only issue is it isn’t offered with end caps and then they have to be welded on. Not any big deal really, but perhaps not as noob friendly.
Just thought I’d share. Considering one for the Strokercharged REW RX8.
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just fyi that the core linked above is currently 20% off ($251 after discount). Even though the end tanks will need to be custom fab’d from sheetmetal I went ahead and ordered one. I asked Treadstone about it being different than all the others currently offered and they told me this high density/efficiency version is a custom core they made quite a few years back and when they run out that there won’t be any more.
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just fyi that the core linked above is currently 20% off ($251 after discount). Even though the end tanks will need to be custom fab’d from sheetmetal I went ahead and ordered one. I asked Treadstone about it being different than all the others currently offered and they told me this high density/efficiency version is a custom core they made quite a few years back and when they run out that there won’t be any more.
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Is there a discount code as I am getting not getting the 20% when I add it to my cart ?
it appears to have ended, but you can try contacting them and asking if they’ll extend it to you.
mine shipped out the other day, edit: going back to my original plan for the end tanks similar to this. This is not my intercooler, just something that I want to duplicate the end tanks for on mine.
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Treadstone states the size as 10” x 22” x 3”, mine measured out at 9.875” x 21” x 3”
one thing that may be in it’s favor is the density let’s it only be 3” thick with a higher cfm rating. Maybe it just seemed heavy compared to the Koyo S2 radiator I was messing with last night. More than I was expecting and I wasn’t able to find any weight info on the Treadstone site.
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give him some credit; all the things we said were wrong proved to be true and he’s basically coming clean admitting to it.
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Did you read what he said ? Not much "coming clean" the way I read it.
Anyway, it's an obvious copy now, whereas before it was just an attempt to copy that was poorly thought out.
However, If you look at darn near ANY of his "products", you can see where he... Lets call it, got his inspiration from.
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That seems to be a consensus with the UK crowd (at least the ones I talk to).
The danger with copying is that, without understanding, big mistakes can be made. That has already happened on his first attempt and it has cost him.
I am speaking without first hand knowledge here, but by the limited research i had done a few years back, it honestly looks like he purchases said products and does his best to reverse engineer them for reproduction.
Of course mistakes will be made, but IMO its obvious that is what he is doing.
Did you read what he said ? Not much "coming clean" the way I read it.
Anyway, it's an obvious copy now, whereas before it was just an attempt to copy that was poorly thought out.
actually I didn’t, the text is small and illegible on my phone.
but I was being sarcastic. People are going to copy and/or revise it and if you’re being honest, it’s just the latest rendition of what already existed for many years before you applied it over onto a Renesis. My version is more of same, just with the turbo aligned to the center port. There’s no rocket science going on here.
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it’s just the latest rendition of what already existed for many years before you applied it over onto a Renesis. My version is more of same, just with the turbo aligned to the center port. There’s no rocket science going on here.
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Not rocket science at all , but to say it's not an original idea is kinda offensive to me TBH. Sure there are the similar elements included in all manner of previous designs. But all put together in that configuration on a Renesis .... definitely not done before. If you really think it's just the same as the old Mazda cast manifolds like you posted above, perhaps you still haven't fully grasped how and why it works so well.
say what you will, it’s just a turbo manifold; whether yours or mine or anybody else's. How you even see it that way makes no sense at all. I didn’t make any comparison between them, but only stated they’re a variation of the same manifold Mazda produced from way back whenever. You went straight to it though, and why is that?
edit: It’s not my intention to make this thread go south. So I edited out what I could, not that I have any problem with what was said or trying to hide something per past accusations. I’m sorry that you feel that way and take it so serious. I don’t and can’t agree with anything you’re saying.
I completely understand what you did. You need to go search some more. It was done exactly like that on many previous non-Renesis rotary engines with the same intent and purpose. Which I mentioned previously in one of your earlier threads. I’m not saying you knew that and intentionally copied them, only that the idea was executed by other people before you. It’s not unusual for that to happen. Ideas aren’t always as unique or as special as we might like to believe.
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Ok ...So I also edited out some incendiary remarks . Not that I have a problem with anything I said either. Just that they look silly out of context
I'll tell you why I went "straight to it", not that I expect you to understand in the slightest. I put hundreds, possibly thousand of hours, into this project starting back in 2015 when I first decided to design my own setup vs continue on with the crappy Greddy manifold. I spent thousands of dollars trying multiple variations and blew a number of engines in the process while trying to push for high horsepower. Throughout that whole process you have constantly demeaned my efforts. You have tried to portray yourself as some kind of expert yet you have never even owned a turbo RX8 (AFAIK). Possibly never owned a turbo rotary of any kind judging by some of your remarks. Your recent purchase of someone elses 13b project aside.
To then come out and say that the manifold is not an original idea smacks of Jealousy on your part. You can't even give me that tiny satisfaction .................that I achieved something good based on a new idea for the Renesis.
There is no way the same idea has been used on any other rotary because the Renesis is the only possible rotary that the design would work on. If there is something similar out there I guarantee it's not 'the same' in the way it works. Show me some pics and I'll tell you why.
Obviously ......... you don't.
I did some searching as you suggested and came up with exactly what I knew I would ....A few things that may 'look' similar but nothing that even comes close to working the same way.
If you have something you think proves your point ...by all means post it.
No, that’s just your overinflated ego. The same one that proclaimed the prior manifolds as the greatest that ever were. So is this one until it’s improved again.
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it’s exactly just as I said back when you started on the G30 setup; it’s a common derivative of the FC turbo manifold that has been around a long time. Except you didn’t get all worked up over it then, but over time the personal need for praise and glory has become an insatiable, all consuming yearning.
It wasn’t considered ideal on the 13B due to the intermixing of the two exhaust streams so eventually it faded off with individual WG piping merged into a single WG, and then eventually dual WGs, and even then later turbos with split-path IWG. On a Renesis that concern is lessened due to the shared siamese exhaust port.
Did I ever tell you that I did a stint with the US Patent office straight out of engineering school? It’s called prior art. Where I learned to search, before Google even existed. Your manifold would be denied a patent due to prior art. Never was it so clear to me how people can independently come up with the same idea as it was also just as clear how they tried to credit personal achievements to themselves for what was already accomplished. No judgement is intended, that’s just the way it is once the understanding of it is recognized.
Turbo manifolds in general are one of the most copied and duplicated performance car parts there are. There's nothing new or unique compared to what already existed prior to your version of same. It could even be stated that it’s a Greddy manifold with the addition of an external WG and the turbo inlet shifted 90°.
Therein is your personal conundrum. How do you make something worthy of worldly glory and praise from fleshly men without ever revealing to them what it is? It’s just as was stated in the other response earlier today about what drives a man to failure in the final accounting; V-P-A wrt his own self worth and value. All of this wrangling and carrying on is full evidence of it.
Because even though I’m stating that which displeases and upsets you, you completely forget that I equally said all the things about it that pleased you as well. There’s no shortage of truth if you’ve been gifted with the eye and the ear to both know and perceive it. Because everything in this existence is a gift and it comes from the one and only true source. Every thought, every breath, every action, every ability; everything. Your very existence, all that you are or will ever be.
There is nothing a man makes for himself, or of himself, or in his possession that is worthy of his own praise and glory. Only the one true source from where it all becomes into being (γίνομαι) is worthy and deserving. You can’t honestly speak of truth and be in denial it at the same time, anymore than both salt and fresh water can come forth from the same underground spring. Rather, the most talented deceiver baits the deception by mixing both; as it was from the beginning, i.e. “… you will surely not die”.
To specifically address your one point; I’m a man just like any other. Whether intentional or ignorance, we’re all born and become into being as liars without choice. Because we as physical beings can never know or perceive full truth. Yet by choice we can be born into the truth, but that truth comes not from the rituals and inherited lies of men and their doctrines. The many who didn’t take heed of it are deceived into not recognizing themselves as the ones walking through the wide gate on the broad path … having lost the first love and neither repenting of it nor returning to the first work.
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Gotta chime in for a second. First of all where was this posted to? I want to go read it first hand here. I have no reference to this guy so I am fairly unbiased about who he is or his reputation.
I will say though, there should be massive credit attributed to Brett here for his findings through a lot of research/testing. Its all proven here in the club. To say "too bad people will copy stuff" and not let Brett be upset about this is very naive.
Brett if possible I'd try to get in contact with him and see what he claims and doesn't. And if it doesn't add up then maybe worth showing the community what this guy's intentions are.
Actually just looked at the image above, link is in the photo.
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