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Old 06-22-2005, 08:41 PM
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I believe that is guitarjunkie is going there to do, remove it and see if it is sticking.
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looking at that dyno it seems like the vdi and port actuators are working.
power is probably right in the area it should be with the afr's like that. remember snoochies car?

anyone with an rx8 wanna let me borrow a maf sensor? it seems like it's miscalibrated or something. running way the hell too rich up top.

and i have a spare lower manifold, but it's ported. i don't know if you wanna even try it--since it'd throw off the airflow for the kit.

i'll just come down friday and see what the story is...figure out a gameplan from there.
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Here's what we know about the car itself. It was built late 03. It probably sat on the lot and was moved around time to time. It was in NJ so it saw weather. It shows that all the recalls were done, so it got moved to the shop and back. I bought the car and it was trucked here. When I got it off the truck it had a total of 22 miles on it. It now has 2500.

So we know it sat for about 20 months never gatting driven or even warmed up. It got driven onto the boat, off to the dock. Then sat until it was driven onto a truck, then off. Run around the car lot a few times. Put on the truck out here, then off at the hub and then onto the local truck.

Probably never had a full warm up it's whole life until I got it. It may have been flooded by one of those moving it, but it doesn't show in the history. Therefore I don't think it had the chance to build up carbon. It did have plenty of time to oxidize the aluminum. Since no fuel was in there we can't blame gumming from that. I don't know the design so I can't guess on anything mechanical screwing up.

Bottom line is we all agree that this is the place to look. We also agree there is something wrong. "We" does not include Mazda. It doesn't exclude other areas that might wind up being the problem.
OK so much for all my brainstorming but it sounded good.
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hey guys i was following this thread a while back and lost track after a while, but now i have lost track and don't have the time to scrool thru all of the pages, so what the update on the SuperCharger, and release of specs or anything of that nature.

A working model maby
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That's what I was saying..... Look at that AF ratio!

Pig Rich. Damn i forgot to get a scan of my Dyno at work today.

Mine drops down to about 13.8/13.9 then climbs to 14.0

It seems mine gets leaner as I go faster. That may eaplain why the pipes get clean after I drive it a little hard.

At the track the pipes are white!

You can always drop me a line. I only use my car on the weekends, and only if I have time.

I'm 74 miles from you.
Old 06-23-2005, 12:35 AM
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That's what I was saying..... Look at that AF ratio!

Pig Rich. Damn i forgot to get a scan of my Dyno at work today.

Mine drops down to about 13.8/13.9 then climbs to 14.0

It seems mine gets leaner as I go faster. That may eaplain why the pipes get clean after I drive it a little hard.

At the track the pipes are white!

You can always drop me a line. I only use my car on the weekends, and only if I have time.

I'm 74 miles from you.
That looks way to lean. Mine doesn't look much different then FanMans A/F and that ran on the same dyno as mine.

74 Mi in what direction?

edit: Just looked it up and his is leaner then mine by about a point and he made 180hp. I'm going to go over to the dyno shop tomorrow and see if they can print out a overlay of his and mine. I think they still have his in memory.

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Old 06-23-2005, 10:25 AM
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hey razz, if you can make it tomorrow, can we steal your maf sensor for a run or two and see what it does?

or we cna try fred's idea of covering part of the inlet up to try to screw with the readings there.
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Originally Posted by guy321
Is there any way to stimulate the motors to see if they are actuating?

get your mind out of the gutter for once guy :D
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^^ That was a perfectly legit Question :p
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i'm interested if you can get it to richard's shop by tomorrow...

hey, we could always go to radio shack and get resistors--hit it up ultra ghetto style :p
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Fanmans car is just down the street or at least it was. Last time I saw it was apart. The MAF was on the floor. I'll go by and see what's happening with it and if it's there I'll try to get in touch with him to see if we can use it.

That would be ideal as we have his dyno sheet from the same dyno. Said dyno is also on the same street.

Is there any reason why we can't just buy a new sensor?
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Fanmans car is still here. I just don't know if I can get hold of him in Europe. I'm going to try his PM but I doubt he is following the forum. Probably drinking and eating to excess over there. Well if he's in Italy or France that is. Maybe Spain also. :D
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I wouldn't see why the dealer parts dept couldn't sell you one, or i've heard that we share them with other model cars also.

Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Fanmans car is just down the street or at least it was. Last time I saw it was apart. The MAF was on the floor. I'll go by and see what's happening with it and if it's there I'll try to get in touch with him to see if we can use it.

That would be ideal as we have his dyno sheet from the same dyno. Said dyno is also on the same street.

Is there any reason why we can't just buy a new sensor?
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Fanmans car is just down the street or at least it was. Last time I saw it was apart. The MAF was on the floor. I'll go by and see what's happening with it and if it's there I'll try to get in touch with him to see if we can use it.

That would be ideal as we have his dyno sheet from the same dyno. Said dyno is also on the same street.

Is there any reason why we can't just buy a new sensor?

yea, because i wanna see if it'll actually work before you spend any money... next best thing: steal it :D

i'll see if maybe we can steal snoochies sensor...hell, maybe we can take his car and put it on the dyno too.
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but you're in arizona though, right?
Old 06-23-2005, 07:17 PM
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crap.
i can't load the canscan stuff on my laptop because i don't have whatever .net framework i need....
can you get ahold of a laptop?
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Download it at microsoft
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yep the .net is easy to get.
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I have Hymees new one, including the software and adapters. I've not used it yet as I don't have a laptop. I could put it into the shop computer just to read the directions.
Would this one solve your problem? Your laptop my CanScan.
Also remember Hymee's was built just for the Rx8. In fact it comes on screen with gauges identical to the 8's.
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i don't know if i have enough room on the hard drive..that thing is TEENY-TINY. i only use it for talking to ems's and i have all the manuals on it for when i do mobile jobs.
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Ok, we can steal my partners wife's laptop. I'll ask if we can get that tomorrow.
Get back to you when I know.
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good--because i don't make the system requirements for the .net thing...i'd need IE 5.01 or something.

problem with that is i don't know how to download it... you can download the setup, but it kinda downloads the actual program as it's installing. my laptop isn't online and doesn't have ethernet--or whatever, SO
i'd have to go buy the network card, then download everything.

thank god we can steal the other laptop :D

me = teh noob
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go get a jump drive plug it into your desktop. download the zipped .net folder on that. then plug the jump drive into the laptop and o;pen the zip folder and install the .net onto the l;aptop.
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OK got a tenitive use of a laptop. But I never count on things without actually looking in the womans eye myself. You can't count on how much she is going to be in love with her husband when they wake up in the morning.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
go get a jump drive plug it into your desktop. download the zipped .net folder on that. then plug the jump drive into the laptop and o;pen the zip folder and install the .net onto the l;aptop.

i toasted a cd for that. the problem is getting internet exploder 5+ onto the laptop. if someone's paying for the network card, i'll do it. lol

and get a jump drive.... i'm poor. the trick is to not have to spend money on it.


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