Notices
Series I Major Horsepower Upgrades This is the place to discuss Super Chargers and Turbos, Nitrous, Porting, etc

Axial Flow Supercharger

Thread Tools
 
Rating: Thread Rating: 34 votes, 4.53 average.
 
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 02:17 AM
  #4926  
rotarygod's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 26
From: Houston
Originally Posted by WaitingforFI
Those who work in a shop will like this:
click me, I'm super charged
There was a booth at Sevenstock 8 that had these in it. There were several different kinds of engines and they all ran. Really cool.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:37 AM
  #4927  
eviltwinkie's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,756
Likes: 2
From: everywherez...
And while thats all good and dandy...yes I said dandy...I cant help but feel like I got major HP-Blueballs...

COBB supposedly is around the corner...but nothing for sure yet...one day...one day...

Till then I'll be fapping away at rx-8 photochopped dyno pr0n...this time around I'll be sure to use royal purple to prevent blistering...

Reply
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:56 AM
  #4928  
Spin9k's Avatar
Momentum Keeps Me Going
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,036
Likes: 5
From: Colorado
Originally Posted by rotarygod
Noise cancellation at a certain frequency. It's not a power tuning device.
"Downstream of the air cleaner is a resonance chamber that acoustically pumps in more air and adds a few more horsepower."

RX-8, Jack Yamaguchi pg 61
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:41 AM
  #4929  
Astral's Avatar
Purveyor of fine bass
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,618
Likes: 2
From: Worcester, MA
Originally Posted by Spin9k
"Downstream of the air cleaner is a resonance chamber that acoustically pumps in more air and adds a few more horsepower."

RX-8, Jack Yamaguchi pg 61
helmholtz resonance
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:20 AM
  #4930  
Nemesis8's Avatar
Bigus Rotus
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,573
Likes: 1
From: Missouri
Like I asked before, do we need this if we are supercharged? I say no since it is for NA.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:10 AM
  #4931  
patrick_andraste's Avatar
Gotta Love Two Strokes
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
it is not on the K&N intake either
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2007 | 01:04 PM
  #4932  
SmokeyTheBalrog's Avatar
Thread Pirate, Ahhrrrrr
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
From: Long Island, NY
Richard,

Just wondering if you have checked out this thread:

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/haltech-interceptor-105397/

About this new EMU running about $900.00 + shipping USD

Product site:
http://www.haltech.com/interceptor.htm



(still expensive, but I might or might not be worth you time. figured I'd post it here for your convenience)

Last edited by SmokeyTheBalrog; Apr 15, 2007 at 01:11 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2007 | 03:40 PM
  #4933  
r0tor's Avatar
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,754
Likes: 1
From: PA
he doesn't want some early 1990's technology EMU that has to be tuned for each car indiviually and doesn't have any type of automatic fuel trims to keep the car in tune from changes with age/climate...
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 10:04 AM
  #4934  
kristopher_d's Avatar
Drive Master
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,670
Likes: 0
From: Redmond
You know, it's time someone Officially connected with this project checked in. The silence is becoming deafening. I've been waiting patiently, but with the blower design supposedly finished we're still not getting anything resembling an estimate in HP gains, the possibility of making pulley adjustments for more extreme performance, or anything else of import. From all accounts this is a really COOL piece of kit, but COOL isn't enough to budget against.

So how 'bout it. You don't need a working flash to determine the available HP gains. Estimates should be easily mathed. If it isn't going to happen say so. Again, the silence is deafening.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 10:09 AM
  #4935  
h-khunterkiller's Avatar
for hire
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
From: broward
t was said just below 300whp something between 280 and 290+ for the the first pulley maybe more later.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:21 PM
  #4936  
ricky356's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore
dont know if you guys havde tried to go to the axial flow website but ive tried all morning and im getting a "this page cannot be displayed" message....all my other websites are loading. either way its time to face the facts .....this isnt going to happen. i believe richard gave it his best but in the end couldnt put all the pieces together. its a shame i was really looking foward to his SC. you guys can bitch at me all you like for saying it but how long has it been since his last update? it doesnt take much to log on and let someone know whats up. hell i wanted this to happen as much as anyone else.

this sux

rick
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:27 PM
  #4937  
Floyd's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
I wouldn't call this dead untill well after the release of the Cobb tuning unit.....
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:34 PM
  #4938  
Jedi54's Avatar
Administrator
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 22,600
Likes: 3,451
From: The Dark Side
Richard himself has admitted numerous times that he isn't very "tech saavy" so I wouldn't put too much stock into the fact that his website is down.

It has been a while since we've gotten an update though...
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:40 PM
  #4939  
ricky356's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 169
Likes: 0
From: Baltimore
thats what im saying, hes knows were all waiting .......giving us an update only takes a second. even if he was having an issue and ran into a problem....just let us know, ya know?........but nothing.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:50 PM
  #4940  
rotarygod's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 26
From: Houston
You've never seen him type! He literally types one finger at a time and even then he takes a while to find each letter.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:52 PM
  #4941  
SmokeyTheBalrog's Avatar
Thread Pirate, Ahhrrrrr
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
From: Long Island, NY
Richard uses dail-up and one finger types really slowly, so it takes him a while to type even a short reply. He has also gone "missing" before. So, there is no solid sign that it is dead.

Not only is the blower design finished, it has been manufactured and installed in his car. And he has been driving it around for quite some time now.

The supercharger is ready and waiting. It is waiting for affordable engine management.

Originally Posted by r0tor
he doesn't want some early 1990's technology EMU that has to be tuned for each car indiviually and doesn't have any type of automatic fuel trims to keep the car in tune from changes with age/climate...
In responce:

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Haltech is/was the state of the art for a long time.
I haven't looked at this unit since it first went into development, but it is likely a better solution than the Microtech since it has more granularity in the software and more configuration options.
Microtech = Interceptor-X

If you have money now you have two main options:

Turbo for ~$11,000
get in line for supercharger ~$7,000

I believe these products and the AFSC have been in development from about the same time. It is pretty natural that something that performs nearly the same, but costs less, will take longer to develop.


Originally Posted by ricky356
thats what im saying, hes knows were all waiting .......giving us an update only takes a second. even if he was having an issue and ran into a problem....just let us know, ya know?........but nothing.

It DOESN'T take him a second. It takes him 30 minutes or more to sign on and write a short reply. And if he is waiting for Cobb then there is nothing for him to report.

EDIT: meant one finger.

Last edited by SmokeyTheBalrog; Apr 16, 2007 at 06:54 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:52 PM
  #4942  
swoope's Avatar
Zoom-Freakin'-Zoom
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 14,603
Likes: 36
From: orlando, fl
Originally Posted by ricky356
thats what im saying, hes knows were all waiting .......giving us an update only takes a second. even if he was having an issue and ran into a problem....just let us know, ya know?........but nothing.
if he took the time to respond to every post like this it would never get done.

he has better things to do.. this is the same as the mazsport thread..

if you want to wait and learn, do. if not move along.

it will be done when it is done.. and my guess is he will post and tell us when that is..

beers
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 07:22 PM
  #4943  
rotarygod's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 26
From: Houston
Remember that Richard's main job does NOT center around making superchargers. He makes short shifters, pullies, etc...
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 09:55 PM
  #4944  
devildog1679's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,202
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Does anyone know if Richard is off on Vacay or something I PM'd him and sent him an e-mail and still no responce. It's urgent.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 10:51 PM
  #4945  
rotarygod's Avatar
Registered
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,134
Likes: 26
From: Houston
I'll try calling him tomorrow.
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2007 | 11:36 PM
  #4946  
AggieLuke's Avatar
Rotary wannabe :(
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
One phonecall can prevent 10 emails...

Seriously though, I'm not sure I understand the rush to write this project off by some people? If you have the money and want to go FI RIGHT NOW, then obviously this isn't for you, but no need to be all doom and gloom. If you're willing to wait and you've waited this long, why not wait a little longer?

This just seems a bit negative, and we're here for info, 20+ page tangents on cool engineering, and to say things like "Looking forward to the release!"

And with that...

I'm looking forward to the release!
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2007 | 02:37 AM
  #4947  
Richard Paul's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,438
Likes: 20
From: Chatsworth Ca
I know I've been ignoring you guys but the SC is in fact being worked on. We are producing the componants and updating some things. We have pretty much decided on a beta test person and will do that the instant we have a prototype of the ECU solution.
I don't want to heavy up for sympathy but my mother passed away two months ago and there is a mountain of legal mess for me to handle. This was neglected for years and I should have seen it coming. It's a time and money consuming thing. Get your **** together before you go.

Anyway I finally got a good digital camera that I can work with. A Nikon D80 and it is like working with a SLR film camera. Almost. In fact it is so smart there will be a lot to learn. Next all I have to do now is learn how to work pictures into the computer and size them for the forum.

Don't give up, there are too many parts already made. I'll take pictures. In fact I already went a little nutso and took a bunch of the new shop. Like I said I just need to work them around.

I can't give you guys dyno runs because it still doesn't run right and I'm not going to waste my time tuning the EMU when another product will soon replace it.

Like Rotaygod said we have other things we do to stay alive. That means beside the Rx8 parts. Believe it or not making parts for other industries pays a reasonable income. As much as I love making 8 product there will never be a profit in it. It is too hard and there aren't enough of them out there. These are facts, I'm not bitching. I knew what was going to happen when we started. That's a lie, I never thought it would take this much development.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2007 | 03:03 AM
  #4948  
Brettus's Avatar
Boosted Kiwi
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 20,844
Likes: 1,798
From: Y-cat-o NZ
Thanks for the update RP .

I think you possibly underestimate the potential demand for a good SC solution for the 8 .Unfortunately I fear Pettit will beat you to it though .......
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2007 | 04:11 AM
  #4949  
SmokeyTheBalrog's Avatar
Thread Pirate, Ahhrrrrr
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 784
Likes: 0
From: Long Island, NY
The Petite will still cost $7000+. Hopefully the AFSC will be less, though I have no idea how much. Richard is playing it smart and not letting the competition know exactly what he is doing. Unfortunately, that means we end up not knowing as well.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2007 | 08:23 AM
  #4950  
Umbra's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 557
Likes: 0
I think you possibly underestimate the potential demand for a good SC solution for the 8 .Unfortunately I fear Pettit will beat you to it though .......
Yup, and the demand is even smaller if someone else's gear is already installed in many of the cars in the market out there.
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 34 votes, 4.53 average.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:09 AM.