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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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denso/3 = NGK

27 = 9
31 = 10.3
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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If the 10's don't foul out, the full set of NGK Race Plugs or the Denso's may be the way to go.
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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I generally wouldn't recommend 10 for the street because IMO they are too cold for low rpm cruise and idle conditions.
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
I generally wouldn't recommend 10 for the street because IMO they are too cold for low rpm cruise and idle conditions.
Yea that's what I was thinking, more suited for track conditions at consistently higher heat.
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Think I'll just run the race plugs leading only myself, not sure why I never thought of it before
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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^--- the denso race plugs are the way to go.
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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I will never choose Denso over NGK for a rotary, never
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 10:02 PM
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lol am curious why?
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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I still need to get a few things tweaked from Steve sometime soon. As promised, here are the results of my dyno.

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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 12:04 AM
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Not bad for a mustang dyno and ...... 7 psi was it ?
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 12:42 AM
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Whats up with the AFRs at 6000 and 7000?
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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^---- i'm fairly sure it is where the VDI was opening.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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I might be wrong but I don't think the AFR's should move with the VDI and APV's. The HP line usually shows dips but the AFR should be a straight line all the way through. Otherwise you'd be going super lean under boost which is a no no.

That line there is 11.3 afr at I am guessing 8psi 6200rpm.

Again I could be reading it all wrong...
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 09:20 AM
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Yeah, the VDI technically opens at 7200RPM but IIRC it is dependent on load so I am pretty sure that is what that is. Either way, it is not an issue, it is still a spike withing the safe range under boost.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Whats up with the AFRs at 6000 and 7000?
The lean spike at 6000ish is pretty common on and is the APV opening . The other rich spike at 7000 is a mystery though - never seen that before . VDI always opens at 7250 irespective of load.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
The lean spike at 6000ish is pretty common on and is the APV opening . The other rich spike at 7000 is a mystery though - never seen that before . VDI always opens at 7250 irespective of load.
Seems like you could correct that issue in the VE table...

11.3 seems pretty dam lean under boost, I am no master of tuning. It just doesn't seem like something safe to see under boost.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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Seems like you could correct that issue in the VE table...
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The spike is so sharp I would doubt very much that any adjustment would fix it . Would be interested to see if it was repeated on all runs - could just be a 1 off thing.


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11.3 seems pretty dam lean under boost, I am no master of tuning. It just doesn't seem like something safe to see under boost.
11.3 is perfectly fine under boost ......
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Hmm I was always told 10.8 is as lean as you want to go...

But then again this is the rotary community and everyone has their own opinions.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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The spike was on every dyno that i saw. Steve did work on this spike a bit. Its much better then it was at the start of the tuning process.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by shadycrew31
Hmm I was always told 10.8 is as lean as you want to go...

But then again this is the rotary community and everyone has their own opinions.
Remember what RBT is? 10.8 is low end.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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APV is pretty hard to get even, but i would keep the vdi closed in general,

remember in factory form the vdi acts like a supercharger effect, taking the pulse from one rotor and giving it to the other, from my experience this is no different then when your boosting it, it causes a localized boost if you will, this is how my last motor blew, as it detonated around 7000rpms
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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I have been considering installing the Greddy block plate lately actually.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Just wondering, would the block plate do anything for VDI since VDI valve is between the main runners? I thought the block plate was for the secondaries. Maybe I misunderstand.
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 01:26 PM
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Yeah the block off plate won't affect the VDI. I just posted a random thought,
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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Ok gotcha. I was just confused. Great progress tho man, glad to hear you are enjoying the car regardless of numbers! And some good info coming out of this as well.
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