Yeah... I know what you mean about the interceptor... mine had issues as well.. I took it apart and had to fix the main board in it... But the real question is...if someone starting making them again...would people be interested???

 

are you talking pump fuel or ethanol ... granted there are even less people running E ... but wouldn't you be using more air to make that same power with ehtanol

people do run more boost with ethanol, but that is because of the higher octane rating and that translates to more power, granted there are probably even less people doing this than the 5% mentioned above...

but to make the same power, your air flow should be higher.. right?

 

no.

 

good answer - short and to the point

 

can't wait till all of this turbo stuff has a definite answer, like in another few years, where 400hp turbo kits are normal.

 

An Esmeril kit w/ a Cobb setup would be sweet.

 

We actually have that in our list of short term development.

We have discussed this internally several times....the most viable option involves having a "Cobb upgrade kit" that includes larger 3.5" MAF pipe with the MAF running blow through like it is done in many other turbo applications. There will have to be some kind of air "straightening" device in the pipe to aide metering. I am unsure of how much hp will be reachable before maxing out the sensor in blow through form but this appears to be the only way for our kit to work due to our intake setup.

Any suggestions???

Chris

 

There's a guy who lives near me (on the forums: Migi'sBatmobile) who instralled the esmiril kit over a year ago. I dont talk to him too often but he had huge problems with his IntX and decided to get a Cobb and had a custom pipe made to house the MAF. I dont know about the positioning but I believe it would be a "blow through setup". I havnt spoken to him in a while but I believe he didn't get it to work, but I dont know why, he could never get the car running from day 1, he's not the most proactive guy in the world but I think he's been making steady progress. Last time I talked to him he was going back and forth with MM about a tune for it....

Anyway, my point is he is already well down the road of trying this. I'll try to call him tomorrow and see where he's at

 

 

I love it when Chris talks about making his kit work with the Cobb AP.

 

Yes. Contact your friends at BHR and we will be happy to help. Simple as that, Chris.

Matter of fact, I have already discussed such a set-up with MazdaManiac and the h.p. "limits" whether blow-through or draw-through are the same. Remember, the MAF measures air mass. As such, it does half the job of a carburetor.

 

Esmeril kit with AccessPORT would be awesome. Top mounted turbos are sexy, stand-alone wastegates are sexy, and the AccessPORT is sexy.

 

Been there. Done that.

 

ebay turbos and wastegates however, are not sexy

 

Fixed:
P.S. Esmeril Kit no longer uses these things, in fact hasn't now for over a year.

P.P.S. Anyone buying a Turbo Kit that doesn't realize that they can change the Turbo and Wastegate have no business having any of the three.

 

I'm pretty sure it was an option to have real components used over the no name brand ones.

I could be wrong, but I don't really care.

Way to come off like an ******* btw.

P.S. Like I care if someone with an esmeril kit or any kit for that matter makes more power than me. My estimate would be somewhere between 315-325 RWHP for my setup atm. Just sayin'.

P.P.S I make more power than you so you probably shouldn't be saying anything. Kthxbye.

 

He didn't come off as an *** at all... Kinda made me giggle..

 

excellent.

 

I think Jeff said our MAF runs out to about 425 g/sec in the OE tube, so going to 3.5" would give us??

 

if I did the math right only about 440g/s

but a 4" - 503g/s

5" - 630

6" - 755

 

Maybe a 4" section is in order.....there is also other ways...you can have a blocking mechanism on the MAF sensor that forces it to read lower flow by limiting the amount of air that comes in contact with it. It should work like enlarging the pipe....

Thanks for the input guys...keep it coming...we aim to please

Chris

 

careful going to big, the larger the pipe the less sensitive to idle its going to be.

 

yep, bigger than 4 and your loosing too much granularity. even 4 is possibly pushing it

 

There are ways to make the pipe appear "bigger" to the MAF without actually making it so. There are even ways to make it appear bigger the more flow that goes through it while maintaining very close to stock idle readings. I am working on a design to channel and control the amount of air the MAF sees while sticking to a 3" pipe. This will take some time but I will keep you updated.

Best regards,

Chris

 

There have been "fooler" pipes doen for MAF setups in the past.
It can be done, but its not really necessary.
The current MAF setup is good to about 490g/sec if you scale it all the way out to 5 volts (Mazda stops short by about a 1/3 of a volt).
The pipe can be taken up to 3.5" i.d. without killing the granularity too badly, giving up to 550g/sec or so.
I just don't see too many people going for that kind of flow on these motors with the OE PCM.
I could be wrong. (Because of tuning skill, not mechanical limitations.)