Need HELP! Straight to the point. How To Add An Amp and Subs to bose system.
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If you tap the remote line from the bose amp harness in the trunk, as is mentioned in the audio sticky, you can just split that line and connect it to both the amp and the Line Output Converter. The remote line carries 12v whenever the car is on, and when the component sees 12v on the remote line, it turns on. When you turn the car off, remote line voltage drops to 0, and the component shuts off.
The power wire for your amp should be run from the battery, and should have a fuse within 15 inches of the battery like so. I'm using 4 gauge wire here. It's probably overkill for what you're doing.
You need to use the proper fuse for the gauge wire you're using. If you use too large a fuse, your power wire will melt and catch fire before the fuse blows, if your system developed a short circuit. Not good. There are lots of guides online about what fuse to use with what gauge wire. Any local car audio shop that knows their job can tell you as well.
It's important to remember that if you are going to split the main power wire into smaller wires, you'll need a fuse on each of the smaller wires to protect them from shorts as well. It wouldn't look terribly pretty, but you could stick the power line for the LOC into the 12v connection for the amp to power it. Just make sure to fuse the LOC's power wire, as it's certainly going to be a a thinner wire then your main power wire. Most LOC's seem to use fuses of 0.5 to 1.0 amps in my experience. Always check what your specific equipment uses and follow the directions provided by the manufacturer regarding fuses.
I try and draw all my power from the same location, it helps prevent ground loops. (annoying interference, alternator whine, hiss etc.) My main power line runs from the battery to the trunk, where I have 2, smaller, fused power lines that tap into the main power line, to power my LOC and EQ. The main power cable runs to my capacitor, then into my amplifier.
So basically, you can get 12v for your LOC from your amp power cable, just make sure to use a fuse any time power is running from a thicker wire into a thinner wire, and always place the fuse as close to the thicker wire as possible.
You can use the same remote wire for your LOC as you do your amp. no need to run a second cable all the way back to the fuse box or wherever. Just strip a bit of the wire where its convenient, and solder another on, then cover your joint with heatshrink tubing or with a generous helping of electrical tape. If you keep tension on the electrical tape a bit while applying, the tension will force it to stay wrapped around the wire tightly.
Crossovers are something different by the way, you should be using a Line Output Converter. I suspect thats what you've got but just have the wrong word.
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The power wire for your amp should be run from the battery, and should have a fuse within 15 inches of the battery like so. I'm using 4 gauge wire here. It's probably overkill for what you're doing.
You need to use the proper fuse for the gauge wire you're using. If you use too large a fuse, your power wire will melt and catch fire before the fuse blows, if your system developed a short circuit. Not good. There are lots of guides online about what fuse to use with what gauge wire. Any local car audio shop that knows their job can tell you as well.
It's important to remember that if you are going to split the main power wire into smaller wires, you'll need a fuse on each of the smaller wires to protect them from shorts as well. It wouldn't look terribly pretty, but you could stick the power line for the LOC into the 12v connection for the amp to power it. Just make sure to fuse the LOC's power wire, as it's certainly going to be a a thinner wire then your main power wire. Most LOC's seem to use fuses of 0.5 to 1.0 amps in my experience. Always check what your specific equipment uses and follow the directions provided by the manufacturer regarding fuses.
I try and draw all my power from the same location, it helps prevent ground loops. (annoying interference, alternator whine, hiss etc.) My main power line runs from the battery to the trunk, where I have 2, smaller, fused power lines that tap into the main power line, to power my LOC and EQ. The main power cable runs to my capacitor, then into my amplifier.
So basically, you can get 12v for your LOC from your amp power cable, just make sure to use a fuse any time power is running from a thicker wire into a thinner wire, and always place the fuse as close to the thicker wire as possible.
You can use the same remote wire for your LOC as you do your amp. no need to run a second cable all the way back to the fuse box or wherever. Just strip a bit of the wire where its convenient, and solder another on, then cover your joint with heatshrink tubing or with a generous helping of electrical tape. If you keep tension on the electrical tape a bit while applying, the tension will force it to stay wrapped around the wire tightly.
Crossovers are something different by the way, you should be using a Line Output Converter. I suspect thats what you've got but just have the wrong word.
Firebird. forbidden. Did I miss anything?
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You're always missing something. It would be impossible to include every single direction/theory on car audio in a single post. But everything you wrote looks good.
BTW, I would clean up that power wire run a little. Re-route it to be a little more stealth. Or at least throw some wire loom over it and cut the excess off the damn zip ties! Just breakin your chops.
BTW, I would clean up that power wire run a little. Re-route it to be a little more stealth. Or at least throw some wire loom over it and cut the excess off the damn zip ties! Just breakin your chops.
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You're always missing something. It would be impossible to include every single direction/theory on car audio in a single post. But everything you wrote looks good.
BTW, I would clean up that power wire run a little. Re-route it to be a little more stealth. Or at least throw some wire loom over it and cut the excess off the damn zip ties! Just breakin your chops.
BTW, I would clean up that power wire run a little. Re-route it to be a little more stealth. Or at least throw some wire loom over it and cut the excess off the damn zip ties! Just breakin your chops.
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well so far you guys have helped me out in everything iv asked lol...
will this work as an loc? i no its a crossover but can it still do the job?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=
and any hints/tips for building custom 12inch sub boxes for the trunk? ima have them on the right and left sides with the amp in the far back left near the spare tire.
will this work as an loc? i no its a crossover but can it still do the job?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=
and any hints/tips for building custom 12inch sub boxes for the trunk? ima have them on the right and left sides with the amp in the far back left near the spare tire.
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Yes it would. But I wouldn't waste my time or money on anything with the Pyramid name. Secondly, your amp has a built it low pass crossover anyway. Why are you so insistent on running multiple ones?
If I have 1,000 numbered people lined up, and I get orders to kill numbers 100-1,000..... can I kill them a second time if I receive orders again? It's exactly the same principle. Once those frequencies are gone, they're gone. Adding a second crossover doesn't "help do a better job" or anything like that.
If I have 1,000 numbered people lined up, and I get orders to kill numbers 100-1,000..... can I kill them a second time if I receive orders again? It's exactly the same principle. Once those frequencies are gone, they're gone. Adding a second crossover doesn't "help do a better job" or anything like that.
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Yes it would. But I wouldn't waste my time or money on anything with the Pyramid name. Secondly, your amp has a built it low pass crossover anyway. Why are you so insistent on running multiple ones?
If I have 1,000 numbered people lined up, and I get orders to kill numbers 100-1,000..... can I kill them a second time if I receive orders again? It's exactly the same principle. Once those frequencies are gone, they're gone. Adding a second crossover doesn't "help do a better job" or anything like that.
If I have 1,000 numbered people lined up, and I get orders to kill numbers 100-1,000..... can I kill them a second time if I receive orders again? It's exactly the same principle. Once those frequencies are gone, they're gone. Adding a second crossover doesn't "help do a better job" or anything like that.
so i hooked it all up and the bass on them is extremely low for sum reason///any ideas why people?
on the other car it was much louder. all connected the same way.
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and no i tapped in just before they hit the bak 2 speakers located above the trunk/ spare tire area/ behind the back seats.
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I've done installs in several 8's with both powered and non-powered LOCs. I install car audio professionally 5 days a week. Who are you going to trust? A friend who has installed a radio or two and owns a Civic? Or a fellow 8 owner who does 25 installs a week?
The line output converter 1) gave you the RCA connections to connect to your amp 2) has variable adjustments for signal strength. The LOC should have two small ***** that need a tiny screwdriver to turn. Turn them while the music is playing.
Also, exactly which LOC did you buy? Blue Scosche one from Wal-Mart? Installers Edge from Best Buy? Axxess from Circuit City? No? Do you have a link for the one you bought?
The line output converter 1) gave you the RCA connections to connect to your amp 2) has variable adjustments for signal strength. The LOC should have two small ***** that need a tiny screwdriver to turn. Turn them while the music is playing.
Also, exactly which LOC did you buy? Blue Scosche one from Wal-Mart? Installers Edge from Best Buy? Axxess from Circuit City? No? Do you have a link for the one you bought?
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i got the PYRAMID CR65 Electronic Low Pass Audio Crossover. it was cheap and ya... basically cheap ahah. but havent installed it. jsut double thinkin gettin more wires...
I've done installs in several 8's with both powered and non-powered LOCs. I install car audio professionally 5 days a week. Who are you going to trust? A friend who has installed a radio or two and owns a Civic? Or a fellow 8 owner who does 25 installs a week?
The line output converter 1) gave you the RCA connections to connect to your amp 2) has variable adjustments for signal strength. The LOC should have two small ***** that need a tiny screwdriver to turn. Turn them while the music is playing.
Also, exactly which LOC did you buy? Blue Scosche one from Wal-Mart? Installers Edge from Best Buy? Axxess from Circuit City? No? Do you have a link for the one you bought?
The line output converter 1) gave you the RCA connections to connect to your amp 2) has variable adjustments for signal strength. The LOC should have two small ***** that need a tiny screwdriver to turn. Turn them while the music is playing.
Also, exactly which LOC did you buy? Blue Scosche one from Wal-Mart? Installers Edge from Best Buy? Axxess from Circuit City? No? Do you have a link for the one you bought?
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so the pyramid one will let it boost more?
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