IPod Hookup W/FACTORY LCD DISPLAY FUNCTIONALITY!!! & XM DIRECT
03-20-2006, 09:06 PM
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I'm very interested in the iPod adapter! I do have a couple of questions I was wondering if you could answer...
What exactly is displayed on the LCD? Artist and song name? Playlists?
Will the display scroll if there are more than 12 characters?
Will it support playlists (via disk up and down buttons) like some of the other adapters out there?
Thanks!
What exactly is displayed on the LCD? Artist and song name? Playlists?
Will the display scroll if there are more than 12 characters?
Will it support playlists (via disk up and down buttons) like some of the other adapters out there?
Thanks!
03-20-2006, 09:43 PM
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I thought for a minute you were talking about the Navigation LCD screen. Don't you call the display where the text/radio/temp information is shown...the LED display screen?
Since you're on the topic of the LED display...did you guys ever manage to figure out how to customize the "MAZDA RX-8" welcome message so that it could be changed to display something else? I thought I remember a post by thew a couple years back where he mentioned he was working on that.
Since you're on the topic of the LED display...did you guys ever manage to figure out how to customize the "MAZDA RX-8" welcome message so that it could be changed to display something else? I thought I remember a post by thew a couple years back where he mentioned he was working on that.
03-20-2006, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
I thought for a minute you were talking about the Navigation LCD screen. Don't you call the display where the text/radio/temp information is shown...the LED display screen?
03-21-2006, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
I thought for a minute you were talking about the Navigation LCD screen. Don't you call the display where the text/radio/temp information is shown...the LED display screen?
Since you're on the topic of the LED display...did you guys ever manage to figure out how to customize the "MAZDA RX-8" welcome message so that it could be changed to display something else? I thought I remember a post by thew a couple years back where he mentioned he was working on that.
Since you're on the topic of the LED display...did you guys ever manage to figure out how to customize the "MAZDA RX-8" welcome message so that it could be changed to display something else? I thought I remember a post by thew a couple years back where he mentioned he was working on that.
03-21-2006, 08:35 AM
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Not that this anything to do with this thread...but LCD is Liquid Crystal display. They don't put out light on their own, like the Grey screens on old IPODS or the color screens on new IPods. They have to be back lit. LED is Light Emitting Diode, like the power LED or your alarm clock at home. SO the NAV is a back Lit LCD and the Radio display is a LED.
03-21-2006, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by robbz23
Not that this anything to do with this thread...but LCD is Liquid Crystal display. They don't put out light on their own, like the Grey screens on old IPODS or the color screens on new IPods. They have to be back lit. LED is Light Emitting Diode, like the power LED or your alarm clock at home. SO the NAV is a back Lit LCD and the Radio display is a LED.
See Wikipedia for LCD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCD
The NAV LCD, like computer LCDs and the new iPod displays are TFT-LCD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD
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03-21-2006, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by djseto
Incorrect. Look at a calculator. The display on the calculator is NOT backlit, but is a Liquid Crystal display.
03-21-2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by djseto
Incorrect. Look at a calculator. The display on the calculator is NOT backlit, but is a Liquid Crystal display. Have you ever cracked a display on a calculator and seen the liquid ooze around? The LCD on a clock may be backlit by an LED, but the numbers themselves are not LEDs. your alarm clock is more than likely LCD, not LED. Have you seen an LED? Think of it as a miny lightbulb (although they function completely differently). Now imagine having a bunch of those lined up to make the numbers on your clock...its not effecient in its design. I have a degree in Electrical Engineering and took more than my fare share of Microelectronics classes.
See Wikipedia for LCD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCD
The NAV LCD, like computer LCDs and the new iPod displays are TFT-LCD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD
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See Wikipedia for LCD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCD
The NAV LCD, like computer LCDs and the new iPod displays are TFT-LCD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD
sorry for the hijack thread....
We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...
"Now imagine having a bunch of those lined up to make the numbers on your clock...its not effecient in its design."
Actually, a properly designed LED display will be MORE efficient than any equally engineered LCD(assuming it requires illumination).
In the LCD, a backlight has to be illuminated at all times, and the LCD matrix simply redirects the light either to your eyes, or into the back(and other directions) of the display. This light is wasted, and often contributes to the poor black level and contrast issues associated with LCD.
In the LED, each element is emmissive, thus only emit the light that ends up in your eyes(yes, some is wasted and goes backwards too).
At this point, LED's are being used in more an more situations, it's really the ability to manucature them cost effectively(LCD is mad cheap) that is keeping them out of your consumer products, not efficiency.
Soon LED's will compose your cell phone, watch and computer monitor...and EVERY application of these LED's will use significantly less power than the LCD's of the moment.
*edit* not being a smartass, just dropping some science(what little i have)
*edit 2* Of course the backlight is the big detractor in an LCD! Any LCD uses less power than an LED of comparable stats. It's the radical innefficiency(remember all that wasted light) of required back lighting that maked LCD's less efficient. Look at the stats of some of the larger LCD displays on the market...they're pretty terrible! My sony 46" uses as much as the 24" crt it replaced!
Last edited by hedgecore; 03-21-2006 at 03:20 PM.
So what was the original topic again?
03-21-2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgecore
"Now imagine having a bunch of those lined up to make the numbers on your clock...its not effecient in its design."
Actually, a properly designed LED display will be MORE efficient than any equally engineered LCD(assuming it requires illumination).
In the LCD, a backlight has to be illuminated at all times, and the LCD matrix simply redirects the light either to your eyes, or into the back(and other directions) of the display. This light is wasted, and often contributes to the poor black level and contrast issues associated with LCD.
In the LED, each element is emmissive, thus only emit the light that ends up in your eyes(yes, some is wasted and goes backwards too).
At this point, LED's are being used in more an more situations, it's really the ability to manucature them cost effectively(LCD is mad cheap) that is keeping them out of your consumer products, not efficiency.
Soon LED's will compose your cell phone, watch and computer monitor...and EVERY application of these LED's will use significantly less power than the LCD's of the moment.
*edit* not being a smartass, just dropping some science(what little i have)
*edit 2* Of course the backlight is the big detractor in an LCD! Any LCD uses less power than an LED of comparable stats. It's the radical innefficiency(remember all that wasted light) of required back lighting that maked LCD's less efficient. Look at the stats of some of the larger LCD displays on the market...they're pretty terrible! My sony 46" uses as much as the 24" crt it replaced!
Actually, a properly designed LED display will be MORE efficient than any equally engineered LCD(assuming it requires illumination).
In the LCD, a backlight has to be illuminated at all times, and the LCD matrix simply redirects the light either to your eyes, or into the back(and other directions) of the display. This light is wasted, and often contributes to the poor black level and contrast issues associated with LCD.
In the LED, each element is emmissive, thus only emit the light that ends up in your eyes(yes, some is wasted and goes backwards too).
At this point, LED's are being used in more an more situations, it's really the ability to manucature them cost effectively(LCD is mad cheap) that is keeping them out of your consumer products, not efficiency.
Soon LED's will compose your cell phone, watch and computer monitor...and EVERY application of these LED's will use significantly less power than the LCD's of the moment.
*edit* not being a smartass, just dropping some science(what little i have)
*edit 2* Of course the backlight is the big detractor in an LCD! Any LCD uses less power than an LED of comparable stats. It's the radical innefficiency(remember all that wasted light) of required back lighting that maked LCD's less efficient. Look at the stats of some of the larger LCD displays on the market...they're pretty terrible! My sony 46" uses as much as the 24" crt it replaced!
*Again, back to your regularly scheduled program*
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03-21-2006, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
Also a new XM Direct adaptor will be released with full functionality...from what I understand there will be two seperate units but that is just speculation...I'll ask..
03-22-2006, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by djseto
yeh.but the sirus adapter only works with sirus ready HU thats in '05+ model years.
03-22-2006, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDiaboloco
Fancy that! I was not aware. Is that because the HU itself won't control the adapter and display info on the screen?
