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Old 07-22-2011, 11:47 PM
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529 maps... that looks yummy.
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I don't have those in a test map he sent me. Never got an actual starter map because my emails for one went unanswered as he was in his supercharger phase .... this is the basic problem to his overall token strategy. Good luck getting him to respond.
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Originally Posted by Brettus
this should help .....

I have a question on the injector numbering, can you confirm?
I believe injector 1 = P-1, injector 2= P-2, and injector 3 = Aux.

And the three fan settings, I feel like Stallone in Demolition Man with the three shells....
So far, I have simply set them at 80C and they do come on fine, but knowing their recommended settings and how to make them work more efficiently would be nice...


Dwell....
Any idea on how the Mazda dwell numbers can be translated into real world measurements of "ms"?
I have the MSD coils, and they do work great, but I only have a "guessed at by multiplication" dwell setting; the stock coils are X ms, my coils are Y ms; so I use the percentage to make my guess.


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Originally Posted by Rote8
I have a question on the injector numbering, can you confirm?
I believe injector 1 = P-1, injector 2= P-2, and injector 3 = Aux.

And the three fan settings, I feel like Stallone in Demolition Man with the three shells....
So far, I have simply set them at 80C and they do come on fine, but knowing their recommended settings and how to make them work more efficiently would be nice...


Dwell....
Any idea on how the Mazda dwell numbers can be translated into real world measurements of "ms"?
I have the MSD coils, and they do work great, but I only have a "guessed at by multiplication" dwell setting; the stock coils are X ms, my coils are Y ms; so I use the percentage to make my guess.



3.5 for stock, 5ms for GM coils.... the whole dwell table needs to jump up 140-ish%
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Originally Posted by Rote8
I have a question on the injector numbering, can you confirm?
I believe injector 1 = P-1, injector 2= P-2, and injector 3 = Aux.
No

40 is P1 , 41 is Sec , 42 is P2




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And the three fan settings, I feel like Stallone in Demolition Man with the three shells....
So far, I have simply set them at 80C and they do come on fine, but knowing their recommended settings and how to make them work more efficiently would be nice...
80C is WAY to low to bring the fans on - they will be on continuously at that setting .
Put fan 1 and fan2 at the same temp and fan 3 at a slightly higher temp as Mazda do .
I do 91 , 91 , 94

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Lots of exposed maps with no information on what they are, might as well be in hex code. I bought a copy and as far as I'm concerned its not even worth the shipping cost, let alone the ridiculous price I paid for it just to end up with zero support. Cobb could have done the same thing if they wanted to look like a pointless halfass job with a the potential to play with unknown maps that may result in boom ...
Having just returned back to the Rx8/pro tuner sceen, after 2/3 year grap/ break -- I've seen you post the same basic statment a few times -- You Weren't the Only One, I was one of the First Beta Testers, and Payed More than a 1 K.
Pro tuner may/ can be a Pain, But people like Brett have got it working OK.

As for the Cobb -- LOL -- Haven't seen any posts of anyone down Under With It ???

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Except I never got a reply for my base map so I have software, but no tuning map to work with my car so I was completely ripped off plain and simple. Now I've moved on to Windows7 and the Dudelogger software isn't working so I can't even retrieve my vehicle data for a base tune submittal. The whole token setup is fubar BS.

Not that I care now other than the financial loss because the Cobb Accessport with AccessTuner software trumps the ProTuner in every regard. I can appreciate his personal situation, but never even replying to business customers is no excuse. Business us business and there are obligations to paying customers regardless.
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Originally Posted by rx8 man

As for the Cobb -- LOL -- Haven't seen any posts of anyone down Under With It ???
I know of a couple in NZ that have it but at the time they bought MMs service was so bad neither of them bothered to get tuned .

You can't get ATR for JDM 8s so going through MM is the only option these days - luckily his service "doesn't suck" now ...
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You can't get ATR for JDM 8s so going through MM is the only option these days - luckily his service "doesn't suck" now ...
lol. Again.

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As for the Cobb -- LOL -- Haven't seen any posts of anyone down Under With It ???
Only the 2005 and up HiPower Aussie ROMs are supported.
I have about 25 customers in the Land Down Under. Another dozen Kiwis.
They are a mix of JDM and AUDM ROMs.

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Only the 2005 and up HiPower Aussie ROMs are supported.
I have about 25 customers in the Land Down Under. Another dozen Kiwis.
They are a mix of JDM and AUDM ROMs.
^ well that means I'm stuffed. I was thinking about changing to access port as I currently can't change my injectors in pro-tuner.
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Does ProTuner have the ability to add parameters by address?
If I had a copy of your rom, I could probably find the locations.
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^ hymee never got that far. he announced he was developing an application to explore and edit the map definitions but I guess it was shelved due to other stuff.

I have the Pro-tuner files but they might not be in the same rom fomat mazda uses.
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It has to be made specifically for your VIN and model year or it won't load. This is how he controlled the token system to prevent unauthorized use of the software on other vehicles. Nobody can get a hold of the guy, yet he's now trying to start a Hymee catback muffler system sale through a 3rd party in the Aussie forum rather than come here and address any of this himself. What a louse ....
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^ well I do have my files associated with my VIN so editing a value or two should work.

I don't hold a grudge to hymee. sometimes businesses don't work out. I bought pro-tuner with the knowledge it was a beta project. the price tag was high but at that point I had nothing. the emanage system was crap can only motec and microtech would work with the crank trigger. both would have cost more than pro-tuner that has worked very well for me (limitations aside).
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Except I never got a reply for my base map so I have software, but no tuning map to work with my car so I was completely ripped off plain and simple. Now I've moved on to Windows7 and the Dudelogger software isn't working so I can't even retrieve my vehicle data for a base tune submittal. The whole token setup is fubar BS.

Not that I care now other than the financial loss because the Cobb Accessport with AccessTuner software trumps the ProTuner in every regard. I can appreciate his personal situation, but never even replying to business customers is no excuse. Business us business and there are obligations to paying customers regardless.

Great, So It doesn't work on Win 7, Thats going to be nice, going back to a POS laptop that 5-10 years old to running on XP.

How was the 100 flash count problem over come?? anyone ?? as I dropped out a month or so before this problem was over come.
And never got any up dates
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lol. Again.



Only the 2005 and up HiPower Aussie ROMs are supported.
I have about 25 customers in the Land Down Under. Another dozen Kiwis.
They are a mix of JDM and AUDM ROMs.
That my 8 F&*ked from the AC then, I've got one of the first 8's made
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why not just have duel boot a xp- win 7 setup?

as far as i'm aware the 100 flashes has been solved.
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Did he hire you to make his excuses? Apparently they make a powerful Down Under Koolaid in Rooville too.
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Originally Posted by rx8 man

How was the 100 flash count problem over come?? anyone ?? as I dropped out a month or so before this problem was over come.
And never got any up dates
I'm pretty sure that the fix was part of an automatic update . When you open Protuner it first communicates with Hymee's website asking if there are any updates . Whether the site is still active I don't know . I have not seen any updates for 2-3 years .
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Pro Tuner also runs well on Windows Vista, and using a dual boot setup is probably the best way if you also want to have Windows 7 on your computer.
I do know that Hymee was working to get Protuner to work with Windows 7, but I don't know if he succeded or not.
If you have one of the newer versions of the Protuner bricks and are trying to load this up on Windows XP, you might find it will not recognise the brick due to updates in the bricks USB components.
Therefore your choice of operating software might be limited to Windows Vista only.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Did he hire you to make his excuses? Apparently they make a powerful Down Under Koolaid in Rooville too.
lol I have almost as much reason to be bitter at the situation as you.

I have bricked my pcm with it and PT doesn't quite have all the functionality it needs. with the bricking of the pcm the system has "cost" about $1600 which is most of the way to a motec.

however hymee helped me out to get me running, I knew it was a beta and it has served me well since I started using it. the additional costs due to the bricked pcm were not hymee's fault just the dealer stuffing round ( I ended up fixing the issue my self when the service tech was on the phone).

if you didn't get a tunable map then hymee should have refunded your money.

I hope hymee sorts out the business and can offer some more support as flash tuning is dead in the water for a lot of us. I only wish hymee went more open source so the community could continue with working out the flash tuning.
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As an aside : I now have done over 200 flashes with the PT and am convinced the "bricking " issue happens only when you do something wrong (yes I have done it - twice) .
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As an aside : I now have done over 200 flashes with the PT and am convinced the "bricking " issue happens only when you do something wrong (yes I have done it - twice) .
Why doesn't it have an "un-bricking" routine like the AP? Seems simple enough and always works.
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I tried to get my money back, but I don't necessarily care to hang out all the laundry in public. I could have gotten at half my money back selling it to someone else, but he backed out after not being able to get any kind of reply from Hymee. Let's just say that I didn't wise up to overall situation with his beta projects until later. Whether or not he's a nice guy who had the best intentions is irrelevant. We could have the same debate about Scott/Mazsport, etc.
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Why doesn't it have an "un-bricking" routine like the AP? Seems simple enough and always works.
Mark tried to incorporate that but the software didn't work - like Team said ... it was never complete .
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I just received an updated map definition file from hymee

I have the injector sizes now and that was the only thing I was missing incase I needed to increase the fueling.


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