Open Source Naturally Aspirated Performance Tune File
03-05-2008, 01:10 PM
#27
That's like saying you found a significant difference in your putting accuracy after the lobotomy.
You change a few more variables when you perform a hard PCM reset than just the trims.
You really are coming to this party a bit late. So much of what you are trying to learn about the PCM has already been dissected in depth over the last 4 years. More reading, lest posting.
I realize I am new here, but sometimes I feel like I am fighting an up hill battle.
I say something like "Let's look at XYZ and see what is happening" and I either get "We've already done that stupid" or "It is way to complicated for your simple mind".
That is all fine and dandy if forums are for but a few people. I look at forums more as a place for a lot of people to ponder issues and have input. Given that, I welcome your input and additions as you have been at this for a long time.
If you know something and want to share, please do. If you know something and do not want to share because it is how you make your living, I understand and do not blame you. Posting I know, your stupid is just not helpful.
Any way it goes, please do not tell me I should not be trying.
03-05-2008, 05:30 PM
#30
I'm trying to push you in the right direction with out giving away the goose.
Its like watching a comrade getting tortured from a distance but not being able to run out and help him without giving away your position to the enemy.
I know that isn't necessarily apropos, but I hate seeing people waste their time, even if I can't help them directly.
Its like watching a comrade getting tortured from a distance but not being able to run out and help him without giving away your position to the enemy.
I know that isn't necessarily apropos, but I hate seeing people waste their time, even if I can't help them directly.
03-05-2008, 06:00 PM
#31
Momentum Keeps Me Going
Jeff,
I realize I am new here, but sometimes I feel like I am fighting an up hill battle.
I say something like "Let's look at XYZ and see what is happening" and I either get "We've already done that stupid" or "It is way to complicated for your simple mind".
That is all fine and dandy if forums are for but a few people. I look at forums more as a place for a lot of people to ponder issues and have input. Given that, I welcome your input and additions as you have been at this for a long time.
If you know something and want to share, please do. If you know something and do not want to share because it is how you make your living, I understand and do not blame you. Posting I know, your stupid is just not helpful.
Any way it goes, please do not tell me I should not be trying.
I realize I am new here, but sometimes I feel like I am fighting an up hill battle.
I say something like "Let's look at XYZ and see what is happening" and I either get "We've already done that stupid" or "It is way to complicated for your simple mind".
That is all fine and dandy if forums are for but a few people. I look at forums more as a place for a lot of people to ponder issues and have input. Given that, I welcome your input and additions as you have been at this for a long time.
If you know something and want to share, please do. If you know something and do not want to share because it is how you make your living, I understand and do not blame you. Posting I know, your stupid is just not helpful.
Any way it goes, please do not tell me I should not be trying.
Everyone starts somewhere and goes as far as their brain cells allow....I don't see why begruding them knowledge or telling them to search helps when simple answers are so much easier. Besides it potentially helps eveyone on this board...whereas calling them out because they ask for it doesn't...just my opinion.
Personally, though perhaps not the brightest crayon in the bunch, I feel this thread (and others related) is helping me understand more...now that I'm interested in the subject.
Last edited by Spin9k; 03-05-2008 at 06:02 PM.
03-05-2008, 07:09 PM
#33
Momentum Keeps Me Going
I've often tried and even had success, but it seems like the proverbial needle in the haystack effort most of the time
and I at least sort of know what's hidden in here...
somewhere.
03-05-2008, 07:18 PM
#35
First - most of the really useful stuff is "stickied".
Second - If you use Google as your search engine, it almost always leads you to the right answer here.
Third - what I was getting at was that I really can't help in this context, but I've been trying to help by steering the logic. But it isn't working. Hence the RC remark.
Second - If you use Google as your search engine, it almost always leads you to the right answer here.
Third - what I was getting at was that I really can't help in this context, but I've been trying to help by steering the logic. But it isn't working. Hence the RC remark.
03-05-2008, 07:23 PM
#36
Everyone starts somewhere and goes as far as their brain cells allow....I don't see why begruding them knowledge or telling them to search helps when simple answers are so much easier. Besides it potentially helps eveyone on this board...whereas calling them out because they ask for it doesn't...just my opinion.
The first few times, people knowledgeable respond. After a while it's no longer worth answering the same question. Telling the user to search is easier and more comprehensive. Without this, then you end up with people with little to no knowledge answering questions and we end up with a bunch of people with misconceptions on the topics.
To give you an idea how much info there is on this forum, I was literally able to read through post after post, for over a week when researching the FI topic. I didn't even read everything, I gave up when I found out enough to make an informed decision.
It is -rare- that a truly unique and new topic is brought up. Many topics can easily be answered in a few sentences. However in depth topics require lengthy replies, and as I said before, no one will keep that up with great answers if it's asked repeatedly. So it's a disservice to push a curt reply than to point to the previous threads on the topic.
03-05-2008, 07:23 PM
#37
Momentum Keeps Me Going
First - most of the really useful stuff is "stickied".
Second - If you use Google as your search engine, it almost always leads you to the right answer here.
Third - what I was getting at was that I really can't help in this context, but I've been trying to help by steering the logic. But it isn't working. Hence the RC remark.
Second - If you use Google as your search engine, it almost always leads you to the right answer here.
Third - what I was getting at was that I really can't help in this context, but I've been trying to help by steering the logic. But it isn't working. Hence the RC remark.
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03-05-2008, 07:25 PM
#38
The syntax in the google input box is:
site:rx8club.com <keyword(s)>
e.g; http://www.l.google.com/search?q=sit...lub.com+tuning
03-06-2008, 03:55 AM
#41
One or two points.
This thread was started to try joint development of Open Source tune files.
I would not expect someone that makes their living tuning to give away the farm for free and thus do not blame Jeff (or any other tuner) one bit for not contributing. I also appreciate the "hints" as they are very helpful.
I do think this thread is unique in that it is now possible for mortals to create, test and publish files for others to download, install and test on their own. Having all of available data pertinent to the topic of this thread included in this thread (or linked like the “What is the best NA O2 thread and the MAF Calibration thread) gives people a one stop shop for understanding the tuning process, having access to data plots and dyno sheets to let them form their own opinion and then a ready source for the files for testing themselves.
As for the burden of having to decide if it is worth your time to post an answer to the same old questions that have been asked so many times before, I am confused. People are taking time to post a go look somewhere or you should not be doing this responses. If I were weary of reading the same old questions and not wanting to spend my time responding or even reading the questions in the first place, I would simply understand the nature of the thread and know that I had nothing to add or that I simply did not have interest in contributing and remove it from my watch list.
This is not a dig on anyone, it is just an observation and one simple solution to an easy problem.
This thread was started to try joint development of Open Source tune files.
I would not expect someone that makes their living tuning to give away the farm for free and thus do not blame Jeff (or any other tuner) one bit for not contributing. I also appreciate the "hints" as they are very helpful.
I do think this thread is unique in that it is now possible for mortals to create, test and publish files for others to download, install and test on their own. Having all of available data pertinent to the topic of this thread included in this thread (or linked like the “What is the best NA O2 thread and the MAF Calibration thread) gives people a one stop shop for understanding the tuning process, having access to data plots and dyno sheets to let them form their own opinion and then a ready source for the files for testing themselves.
As for the burden of having to decide if it is worth your time to post an answer to the same old questions that have been asked so many times before, I am confused. People are taking time to post a go look somewhere or you should not be doing this responses. If I were weary of reading the same old questions and not wanting to spend my time responding or even reading the questions in the first place, I would simply understand the nature of the thread and know that I had nothing to add or that I simply did not have interest in contributing and remove it from my watch list.
This is not a dig on anyone, it is just an observation and one simple solution to an easy problem.
03-06-2008, 06:38 AM
#42
Momentum Keeps Me Going
... or are you just thumbing thru your scrapbook for the requisite look? Either way, life is good ..
Sorry, back on topic...ahemm..
03-06-2008, 06:45 AM
#43
Momentum Keeps Me Going
lolachampcar I was about to order a efidude dongle last night until I went to the web site and it basically said they were having a hard time figuring out how to upgrade the 'in-field' (already sold?) hardware to allow the tuning function to work. Woops, I don't want to be in the middle of a hardware incompatibility thing! Those rarely end well.
I though it was just a license & $ issue and then the dongles were ready to tune with a click of the mouse after that. Sounds more like V1 and V2 dongle release might be necessary?
Do you know what's going on and are my assumptions correct? Thanks.
I though it was just a license & $ issue and then the dongles were ready to tune with a click of the mouse after that. Sounds more like V1 and V2 dongle release might be necessary?
Do you know what's going on and are my assumptions correct? Thanks.
03-06-2008, 08:19 AM
#44
lolachampcar I was about to order a efidude dongle last night until I went to the web site and it basically said they were having a hard time figuring out how to upgrade the 'in-field' (already sold?) hardware to allow the tuning function to work. Woops, I don't want to be in the middle of a hardware incompatibility thing! Those rarely end well.
I though it was just a license & $ issue and then the dongles were ready to tune with a click of the mouse after that. Sounds more like V1 and V2 dongle release might be necessary?
Do you know what's going on and are my assumptions correct? Thanks.
I though it was just a license & $ issue and then the dongles were ready to tune with a click of the mouse after that. Sounds more like V1 and V2 dongle release might be necessary?
Do you know what's going on and are my assumptions correct? Thanks.
I am the lab rat on this one and I got my "Personality Changing" enhanced ProLogger software yesterday. Basically, I just tell the same dongle to be a logger or a reflasher. If it is a reflasher, I get asked what file I want to send. I had a couple of niggle comments about the way the choice of file is made and such which should be quick to fix.
It is doing the personality change from logger to reflasher just fine without doing anything to the dongle so I would expect a web site update shortly. I just think they got caught out trying to integrate the personality thing into their logger application because I've been using the stand alone personality changer for almost a year now.
03-06-2008, 06:43 PM
#45
Wow, who is telling you to tone it down? Must be femi-**** or their male sympathizers. If you had guys in your pics, doing the same relative poses, I'm sure it would be "cool".
03-06-2008, 07:07 PM
#47
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The dat files that we are looking at with the ProLogger software. What kind of format are they in? It would be great if we could use the data captured by say a canscan unit with the Prologger software. It is so much easier to use.
03-07-2008, 07:30 AM
#48
The ProLogger captures more data at a higher rate, for less money. Sure, it would be possible to provide an import function, but in the wonderful world of business, why would you want to do that? It might be possible for someone to write a converter, but it would require inside knowledge of the ProLogger file format - and that is the Dude's perogative if he chooses to keep that proprietry.
For the record, I love the concept of the pro logger, even if it makes one of the functions of my sCANalyser obsolete.
Cheers,
Hymee.
For the record, I love the concept of the pro logger, even if it makes one of the functions of my sCANalyser obsolete.
Cheers,
Hymee.
03-07-2008, 07:56 AM
#49
Momentum Keeps Me Going
That's the conclusion I've come to as well. Regardless of future capability, regardless of other tools you may use for other purposes or even the same purpose in different circumstances....having a small, simple, brain-dead plug in appliance like this to record a couple hrs worth of data points from the ECU makes it a real jewel of a product. Being able to "replay your ECU data" on your PC is really invaluable.
And given its popcorm price it's one
no one should be without IMO!
And given its popcorm price it's one
no one should be without IMO!