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Old 02-18-2009 | 02:38 AM
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Hymee Pro Tuner Discussion

I've been running Pro Tuner for a while now so thought it was time to talk about my experiences with it . I'll start with a little background on it

What can it do :
*Flash tuning of the factory computer with access to all engine controls
some examples : fan switching control , intake valve control , maf calibration , injector scaling , fuel mapping , timing mapping etc etc . Pretty much everything the AP can do .
*Logging of critical tuning information . Up to 2hrs worth i understand (not 100% sure on this) This is done via the plug in 'brick' .
*Real time display of all engine parameters monitored by he ECU - ie Scanalyser via usb port
*Normal Scanalyser software also included in the package

Some observations :
The first thing I found when attempting to tune my turbo 8 was that you cannot tune in real time . You need to take logs then load those logs onto your computer and analyse them then make the necessary changes .
I was used to my Powermod piggyback which can be tuned in real time so I initially saw this as a drawback as I could not imagine that you would want to dick around like this while on the dyno trying to tune .
Now that i've gotten used to it I really like that it works this way . You get to study the logs and make changes in a orderly fashion . So if you are a diy kind of person this way of doing it will suit you . If you are going to hand your tuning over to someone else that you are paying an hourly rate to , then this is not the best in my opinion.
All the critical maps that you need access to are available to play with at your hearts content but you had better get an understanding of what you are doing or you could easily get into trouble .
Hymee provided me with a base map that he uses for his supercharged 8 . I found this worked very well with my turbo . I only had to fine tune to get an excellent result that I am very happy with . I have now have very stable afrs throughout the rev range .

As far as funcionality is concerned - Hymee guided me through the learning phase pretty well and was always there if i got stuck . Top marks to Mark for service .
The software works very well as long as you follow the instructions - if I can figure it out anyone can .....

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Old 02-19-2009 | 12:54 AM
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wow,

brett,

that answered a lot of my questions. only the vista is lacking..

great job again!

beers
Old 02-19-2009 | 02:49 PM
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Screen Shots?
Old 02-19-2009 | 03:15 PM
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sure - here is my turbo timing map in 3d
you can rotate the map to see if there are any anomalies with your numbers
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Old 02-20-2009 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
wow,

brett,

that answered a lot of my questions. only the vista is lacking..

great job again!

beers
Vista works good for me! I'll post a screen shot if you like.

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Old 02-20-2009 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hymee
Vista works good for me! I'll post a screen shot if you like.

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naw,

it works, but it just is not solid like xp.. sorry scanilaser issue.

i dont recall the file i need to dump to get it back..

and btw, congrats. your dyno was yummy..

have you caught my note on you web email?

beers
Old 02-20-2009 | 04:50 AM
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...but it just is not solid like xp.. sorry scanilaser issue.
That is the "old" sCANalyser Live folks, before my new USB version.

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Old 02-20-2009 | 05:35 AM
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Better than a Vista screen shot, how about a preliminary Screen Cam?

www.hymee.com/videos/SPTScreenCam.wmv

I am currently working on a number of nifty things, like making better use of the screen real estate, and some nice features to allow for the editing of "blocks" of selected cells at time. Stay tuned for more details.

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Old 02-20-2009 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hymee
Better than a Vista screen shot, how about a preliminary Screen Cam?

www.hymee.com/videos/SPTScreenCam.wmv

I am currently working on a number of nifty things, like making better use of the screen real estate, and some nice features to allow for the editing of "blocks" of selected cells at time. Stay tuned for more details.

Cheers,
Hymee.
You know this does make me want to stop what I'm doing and just shell out the $$$ and buy your unit, however I already invested on the other solution hardware for quite sometime and I want to finish what I start as a poorman DIY project (figurative speaking that is).

I do really like your solution and congratulation btw for a product well made.
Old 02-20-2009 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus
Some observations :
The first thing I found when attempting to tune my turbo 8 was that you cannot tune in real time . You need to take logs then load those logs onto your computer and analyse them then make the necessary changes .
I'm sure when the product get more attention and mature enough, that will be possible along with auto tuning. In order to support real time tuning, you will need to re-write the assembly so that instead of reading value from ROM, it read from RAM (of course it should also have fail safe to make sure RAM is populate with values first). Due to the amount of memory available, it will have to be limited to certain map or may have to do one at a time. And when you want to commit, you can write the changes to ROM. You can also use this method to implement switching between multiples map.
Old 02-20-2009 | 07:59 PM
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hiya seikx8 good to see you are still working on it
ya know i think cobb does that rom/ram swap for some cars now
Old 02-20-2009 | 10:40 PM
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hiya seikx8 good to see you are still working on it
ya know i think cobb does that rom/ram swap for some cars now
Yeah, it's a hobby to keep me busy beside tracking. It get more interesting as I learn more about these stuffs; took me a while of poking around the embedded programming stuffs to get a better understanding and I'm just scratching the surface
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Add me to the club. I'm eager to learn. Running NA at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Brettus
sure - here is my turbo timing map in 3d
you can rotate the map to see if there are any anomalies with your numbers
Wow. That's a pretty screwed-up curve.
Old 02-24-2009 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Wow. That's a pretty screwed-up curve.
Care to elaborate, rather than just make a sweeping statement?

Not that it makes any difference to me - the tool will allow you to smooth or un-screw the numbers as you see fit.

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Old 02-24-2009 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by seikx8
I do really like your solution and congratulation btw for a product well made.
Thanks mate!

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Old 02-24-2009 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hymee
Care to elaborate, rather than just make a sweeping statement?

Not that it makes any difference to me - the tool will allow you to smooth or un-screw the numbers as you see fit.
Sorry. I thought it was obvious.
The "curve" is backwards.
Old 02-24-2009 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Sorry. I thought it was obvious.
The "curve" is backwards.

OK - It is all relative. What you are saying is that if I plot the load on the Y axis, and the RPM on the X axis, then you would be happy. Otherwise you want me to plot it in a different quadrant.

The curve is correct for the data. The data is correct for the engine. Perhaps all I need to do is have an option/preference as to which orientation to plot the graphs. No big drama. Anything is possible when you have written the application yourself

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Old 02-24-2009 | 05:18 AM
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Is this any better for you?

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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Sorry. I thought it was obvious.
The "curve" is backwards.
Heres another screenshot....
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Old 02-24-2009 | 10:29 AM
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Wow. That's a pretty screwed-up curve.
wow that was a really lame attempt to bash a competitors product even from you.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
wow that was a really lame attempt to bash a competitors product even from you.
I wasn't talking about the product - I was talking about the actual timing values in the map.
They are upside-down!
Advancing to the torque peak and then backing down as RPMs climb.

Sheesh...

The software looks excellent.
Old 02-24-2009 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The software looks excellent.
Thanks. It is.

Cheers,
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PS - Still don't get what you mean about the values then. The correct values are plotted and align with the axes. Perhaps Brettus' chart looked funny due to the rotation he chose?
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For some reason I can never glance at a 3d map and judge it... I always have to view the 2D "sliced" version....wierd huh?

Can you view in 2D?


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