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Old May 26, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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COBB w/ INT-X for CELs

i dont' know if someone asked this question...
i need a help..
i am using the INT-X, and i have a lot of CELs...what happen is that i borrowed my friend COBB, and i download it to my car.
in COBB, we are using the STOCK RX8 map from COBB, no modification at all, and from the PARAMETERS, we "UNCHECKED" all the codes, and we reflash my car with the new map.
so, i went to inspection, my mechanic told me that nothing is cleared yet...there is not light at all, but the ECU is not cleared at all...can anybody help me with this?
how cobb work? does it just turn teh light off? not the sensor? i am confused because there is no engine light at all...
anybody can help?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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And you drove the drive cycles right? Should flag all your readiness monitors that the inspection computer will check.

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Old May 26, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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yeah - the light will come on after a few cycles .
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Old May 27, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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And you drove the drive cycles right? Should flag all your readiness monitors that the inspection computer will check.
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yeah - the light will come on after a few cycles .

i unchecked all codes that gave me lights, but when the inspection guy was ready, he checked it first before connected to the machine, and he said that it's not even ready at all..i have 14 CELs and they were unckecked....i have driven it for more than 500 miles, almost 1k miles....still not ready.....i wonder what i did wrong..
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Old May 27, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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sorry I thought you loaded the program just to delete the cel then unloaded it - ignore my post .
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Old May 27, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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Where did all my responses to this go?
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Old May 27, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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/\ the old 'two thread' trick !
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Old May 27, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Old May 27, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Steve you made the map in access tuner race
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Old May 27, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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damn, i got it too.... i opened a bunch of threads, assumed i opened the same one twice and thought **** was getting deleted rofl
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Old May 27, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Where did all my responses to this go?

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Steve you made the map in access tuner race
Al did it for me, and when i openned it, i look at it from ACCES tuner too....as MM said that if i took one of the sensor, it might not be able to clear it at all, LOL,,,,i have to look at it deeper....i hope MM can help me out here
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Hey Steve..
Technically, yes, you did turn the light off. The reason why its off is because the monitor has been disabled....which determines whether the CEL illuminates. by unchecking them through the Cobb software, it tells the ECU to stop testing, or never complete its cycle...which is why you will not pass NYS/NJ inspection due to the need to have set (completed) monitors and no CEL.
I too have the CEL issue with the interceptor. Scott/Mazsport owns the rights to it, so Microtech will not release any info as to why this occurs automatically and how to fix it. - mainly the Fuel System Rich Code..
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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by unchecking them through the Cobb software, it tells the ECU to stop testing, or never complete its cycle...which is why you will not pass NYS/NJ inspection due to the need to have set (completed) monitors and no CEL.
No, that isn't how it works.
When you un-check a MIL PID, it sets that function's readiness permanently at "ready".
The lack of readiness for emissions is usually from a missing or inoperative sensor for which the CEL has been turned off.
For instance, if you turn off the rear O2S MIL, it will set the flag to "ready", regardless of what values the PCM wants to see.
If you remove the sensor completely, the PCM will never check the readiness flag because it sees the sensor isn't reporting at all.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No, that isn't how it works.
When you un-check a MIL PID, it sets that function's readiness permanently at "ready".
The lack of readiness for emissions is usually from a missing or inoperative sensor for which the CEL has been turned off.
For instance, if you turn off the rear O2S MIL, it will set the flag to "ready", regardless of what values the PCM wants to see..
Wrong. The computer monitors the sensor. not the other way aound. if you had an inoperative sensor, the monitor would still complete and CEL illuminates


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If you remove the sensor completely, the PCM will never check the readiness flag because it sees the sensor isn't reporting at all.
Wrong. If you remove the sensor. Mil lamp illuminates usually for circuit high. The computer MONITORS a fault and triggers the lamp. If your statement were true, then your saying all i would need to do is simply disconnect my 02's and not worry about codes (because sensor would not be reporting).
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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Try it.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SSA
Hey Steve..

I too have the CEL issue with the interceptor. Scott/Mazsport owns the rights to it, so Microtech will not release any info as to why this occurs automatically and how to fix it. - mainly the Fuel System Rich Code..
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It throws a CEL.....because it IS too rich...no big secret...the INTx won't run the car in parameters the stock PCM thinks is "normal"

There is no big Microtech conspiracy here
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Ok so is it possible to pass using the Cobb and or inter-x/Cobb combo? MM uses it most of the time so tell use can we use this idea maybe even lean out the fuel just for inspections pass then flash back to normal?
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Ok so is it possible to pass using the Cobb and or inter-x/Cobb combo?
Yep.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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So if I'm tuned with the inter-x on a turbo kit NO CAT and I use the COBB With your (MM) tune I could pass inspection? If so what would we need to buy from whom and how much?
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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It throws a CEL.....because it IS too rich...no big secret...the INTx won't run the car in parameters the stock PCM thinks is "normal"

There is no big Microtech conspiracy here
Originally Posted by ssspeedfreak
So if I'm tuned with the inter-x on a turbo kit NO CAT and I use the COBB With your (MM) tune I could pass inspection? If so what would we need to buy from whom and how much?
i know about running rich, but how can we pass emmission with that? by using COBB, i think i can pass it, but the thing is i deleted APV sensor, it's located on lower intake. i got 8 CEL just from this sensor deletion, do you think i should put it back on? if i put it back on, my turbo will not fit

MM, i emailed you to find out about something...can i pass emmission without putting the APV sensor back to the car?

i hope someone can solve this,,..
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Ok so where are we with this? MM said yes but didn't answer directly? MM can you answer my above post?
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ssspeedfreak
Ok so where are we with this? MM said yes but didn't answer directly? MM can you answer my above post?
yeah, i am looking forward to this one too...can you imagine that if it works, it' sbetter for him too and COBB ? because COBB will be compatible to everything, for tunning, passing emmision, etc.
it's a matter of expanding the business...

i need an answer for this....
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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It all Sounds great. Too bad its untrue. Believe me, I wish it will and you all can hate me for being wrong. But fact is, you will not be able to pass NYS inspection with intercepetor or with Cobb delete function. Continuous monitors need to show ready status and MIL request OFF. MM im sorry, but your information is inaccurate and now spreading to others a sense of false hope. If you knew more about OBDII you will see this. SSSPEEDFREAK, you can vouch for me on my knowledge. I wouldnt post if i wasnt so sure about this. If it does work, then its for some other reason, but the way its been explained, im 100% confident its NOT going to work. Im not bashing, hating, arguing, deformating, or have anything against any one of you. I just would like to see more genuine information rather than assumptions on this forum. If it will work, then prove it. So far, nobody has! Personal experience on my own vehicle and many of our dealership service cars have shown this. I have tried numerous tricks. as there are a few that WILL work. they have nothing to do with any kind of delete program or fouling method.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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It all Sounds great. Too bad its untrue. Believe me, I wish it will and you all can hate me for being wrong. But fact is, you will not be able to pass NYS inspection with intercepetor or with Cobb delete function. Continuous monitors need to show ready status and MIL request OFF. MM im sorry, but your information is inaccurate and now spreading to others a sense of false hope. If you knew more about OBDII you will see this. SSSPEEDFREAK, you can vouch for me on my knowledge. I wouldnt post if i wasnt so sure about this. If it does work, then its for some other reason, but the way its been explained, im 100% confident its NOT going to work. Im not bashing, hating, arguing, deformating, or have anything against any one of you. I just would like to see more genuine information rather than assumptions on this forum. If it will work, then prove it. So far, nobody has! Personal experience on my own vehicle and many of our dealership service cars have shown this. I have tried numerous tricks. as there are a few that WILL work. they have nothing to do with any kind of delete program or fouling method.
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o well, my hope is gone now.......so i have to go back to stock?
how did you do yours? i heard that you have REW engine in your car right? are you the one or someone else?
steven
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Whats going on here?
Last year I passed NYS inspection, I made my own AP map disabling a few CEL's including the catalyst efficiency one. I used a separate OBD2 scan tool that confirmed my readiness monitors before I took it in.
I was also the one to tell halimsteven he can do it and made his map for him.
I never actually saw my car being tested, but they never said anything and I got my sticker. I have another RX8 now, also with the AP disabling those CEL's, and my inspection is up next month. Can reconfirm then..

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