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Old 06-04-2010, 10:09 AM
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SSA sure knows his way around an inter-x! Also he does have access to the inspection equipment. Both him and I had this very same conversation siting in his 340hp Rx8 (nice ride you gave me) and he also mentioned Dave from KDR is also racking his brain over it.

So that's why when MM says so simply "Yep" I asked how, who, how much?
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Originally Posted by SSA
It all Sounds great. Too bad its untrue. Believe me, I wish it will and you all can hate me for being wrong.

Now, I am not in NY so maybe they have more sophisticated scanners. But. Some of our locals have actually passed emissions, turbocharged, with the AP masking the codes.

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So that's why when MM says so simply "Yep" I asked how, who, how much?
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My cars pass emissions all the time in many States* in all different states of tune.
All the PCM needs to know is that the sensor is physically present. The readiness flag will be set in a couple of drive cycles and the MIL will be off.

SSA - I don't know you or your "credentials", nor do I care. I just know what works and why.



*States where AP-equipped have passed emissions tests while turbo'ed include: Maryland, Pennsylvania, California, Arizona, Ohio, New York, Maine, New Mexico, Washington and Virgina. There may be more, but those are CONFIRMED.

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Old 06-04-2010, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackRX82006
Now, I am not in NY so maybe they have more sophisticated scanners. But. Some of our locals have actually passed emissions, turbocharged, with the AP masking the codes.



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i think NY and NJ are preety strict toward emissions. i think i have to look into it myself deeper....people who have experience, please share it
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The "standards" are all the same for States that only require an OBD test.
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Im going to try and get my car inspected tomorrow i have been driving around with my DTC cleared through cobb (advanced parameters in ATR). I have no CEL and when i get home im going to check my OBDII port with my scanner tool to see if my monitors are showing ready. If the monitors show ready im pretty sure I will pass. Im turbocharged as well.

SSA you mentioned there are a few tricks that do work......what are they share them with us.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
My cars pass emissions all the time in many States* in all different states of tune.
All the PCM needs to know is that the sensor is physically present. The readiness flag will be set in a couple of drive cycles and the MIL will be off.

SSA - I don't know you or your "credentials", nor do I care. I just know what works and why.



*States where AP-equipped have passed emissions tests while turbo'ed include: Maryland, Pennsylvania, California, Arizona, Ohio, New York, Maine, New Mexico, Washington and Virgina. There may be more, but those are CONFIRMED.
So it is clear that I have to put the apv sensor back into my car,o boy ..
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^^ Possibly. The APV isn't part of the OBD readiness test, so it might not care. Why would you take out the APV sensor/motor on a street car?
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
^^ Possibly. The APV isn't part of the OBD readiness test, so it might not care. Why would you take out the APV sensor/motor on a street car?
first thing first, thank you for the reply and the advice

that's a good question. what happen is that my turbo is Mazsport, and in order for the turbo to be fit in, i have to take it off because it's on the way. when we take it out, we left it open....
APV is not part of OBD? that gives me code of P2004, P2009 and other things...

is it a good thing? i have been running like that for more than 20k miles with the turbo...
i will not know until tomorrow if the system is ready or not.
i have driven it for more than 1k miles....the strange thing is O2 sensor is ready because i have catless...if i just have that, i will pass the emission, but the other codes are my problem....
do you have an opinion MM?
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The part will generate a code, but it is not a readiness flag by itself.

Why don't you just borrow an AP from someone and try it? Worst case scenario, you just apply for a one-year exemption.
In fact, you could just show the receipt for buying an AP as your "repair cost"!
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The part will generate a code, but it is not a readiness flag by itself.

Why don't you just borrow an AP from someone and try it? Worst case scenario, you just apply for a one-year exemption.
In fact, you could just show the receipt for buying an AP as your "repair cost"!
Jeff you're making this WAAY to difficult.

Solution: Sell all of your things, take out the biggest loan possible, divorce your wife, sell your children, pack what little you have in your ocho de coche and move to mexico. They have little to no emission restrictions, cosmetic and pharmaceuticals are cheap.

Yo, literalmente, sobre la mierda mis pantalones esta mañana antes de crear el caos en el inodoro.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The part will generate a code, but it is not a readiness flag by itself.
i don't really get this part..... i still have a problem to understand about the radiness and the flag things.....i am trying to learn these all..sorry..

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Why don't you just borrow an AP from someone and try it? Worst case scenario, you just apply for a one-year exemption.
cost"!
this is what i have been doing. i borrowed my friend's AP. now i have INT-X with AP together. i have been boosting it ,....what my friend did was he downloaded the RX8 stock map, and in advance parameters, we unchecked the codes that show up. so basically, the cobb is not tuned at all, just using the stock map. then, i reflash it with the updated MAP.
the lights are off, but i don't know if it's ready or not. i will need to buy the OBD2 reader

Originally Posted by MazdaManiac;3585917Worst case scenario, you just apply for a one-year exemption.
In fact, you could just show the receipt for [I
buying [/I]an AP as your "repair cost"!
i will need to do this...LOL....or, i will need to change my whole set up of turbo..

MM, can you help me out on this, can you try to solve it? i will pay if you require me to do so....you can email me the cost, and i will pay for it. you just need to create a map for me which will make me pass the emission....

at least, this thread will help people who need to pass emission.
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In case my post was missed.

I PASSED New York State emissions with the AP masking my CELs.

and steven, ken has a obd2 tool that will show the readiness monitors.. no need to buy one.
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
In case my post was missed.

I PASSED New York State emissions with the AP masking my CELs.
We ignore you because RX8 club loves to argue even when something is proven.
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I know that, which is why I reposted.
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Steve you can have them check your readiness monitors at any autozone also they have the same tool its an obdII scanner. Al passed your situation is a little different because of the sensor we shall see.
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Originally Posted by RX8YA
Steve you can have them check your readiness monitors at any autozone also they have the same tool its an obdII scanner. Al passed your situation is a little different because of the sensor we shall see.
I was responding to the earlier claims that in NY you can't pass emissions inspection with the DTC disabled by the AP.

I told steven the same thing about the sensor, it's possible the sensor not being there sets off other scenarios were the readiness monitor won't be set. But we took care of ALL CEL's.
He also has all the readiness monitors that were not set when he went to get the inspection done, everything BUT the O2 Sensor flag were "Not Ready".

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Oh and I also told him it might be the way the Interceptor-X is interfaced with the stock ECU that doesn't let some readiness monitors be set. Ken, I bet you can pass inspection easily since you're using the AP.
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Ok can we all get together some time and try this with someones AP? I don't care if I need to buy one or watever but I'd love to try it. When we do it will the lights ever come back on? I also have the DTC sighn disabled on all the time? It came on after a dyno section after the turbo was put on and never went away? I haven't driven more then 20miles since but how do I fix this? I don't think with that on I would pass either?

MM, so are the prices for the COBB any better? If we have the inter-x what more could the COBB offer that the inter-x doesn't?
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^ Ohhhh see you know more then me about the situation.I was just saying if he could get to an autozone where they have one of those scanners he could check the readiness state i live kinda far away from him. I think i worded my statement funny i was trying to say i know you can pass with the DTC's disabled through AP because you did it lol.
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Originally Posted by ssspeedfreak
If we have the inter-x what more could the COBB offer that the inter-x doesn't?

^thats a lengthy discussion lol.
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Originally Posted by ssspeedfreak
Ok can we all get together some time and try this with someones AP? I don't care if I need to buy one or watever but I'd love to try it. When we do it will the lights ever come back on? I also have the DTC sighn disabled on all the time? It came on after a dyno section after the turbo was put on and never went away? I haven't driven more then 20miles since but how do I fix this? I don't think with that on I would pass either?

MM, so are the prices for the COBB any better? If we have the inter-x what more could the COBB offer that the inter-x doesn't?
working on this, and i will post it tomorrow...as now, i am trying to get the scanning tool to find out if my things is ready
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Originally Posted by ssspeedfreak
MM, so are the prices for the COBB any better?
The AP by itself is $495. With my tuning it $594.

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If we have the inter-x what more could the COBB offer that the inter-x doesn't?
Seriously?
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Just thought I should confirm this once again.

I run no cat.
I made my own map in Accesstuner that disables the catalyst efficient CEL.
I passed NYS inspection a few days ago.
In fact, the only reason I nearly failed was because of my window tinting, but in the end they looked over it.
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you are referring to P0420 right?
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