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Old 11-28-2017, 10:09 AM   #126
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After watching the video again it mentions the MAF is hooked up.

if they can guarantee the stability control will function down the track I think I will be getting one.
From what I got from them, TC would most likely be an add on card in the ECU that you could add in. They wouldn't get specific with me if the base ESU would or could handle the factory TC on it's own.

Since I will need the add in card slot for a second DBW card for my semi pports, TC is probably out for me right now. May be able to just use one of the stock intake port valves channels to just have an on/off, and add in TC though. I have to make that decision...
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From what I got from them, TC would most likely be an add on card in the ECU that you could add in. They wouldn't get specific with me if the base ESU would or could handle the factory TC on it's own.

Since I will need the add in card slot for a second DBW card for my semi pports, TC is probably out for me right now. May be able to just use one of the stock intake port valves channels to just have an on/off, and add in TC though. I have to make that decision...
Hi there,

There is some information that is incorrect you have mentioned. Traction control will be available on all of the ECU's with a FREE software/firmware upgrade that should be coming out in the next few weeks once Andy has sorted out the best method of the functionality of the TC feature.

The Adaptronic Modular Rx8 unit has two small module spots available since the DBW and TC is integrated into the ECU. (TC data is taken over CAN from the ABS module) So you can install the second DBW module to control your PP ports and stage them so they open after X amount of throttle input ect and still have another slot if you need it.

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Old 11-28-2017, 04:29 PM   #129
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Hi there,

There is some information that is incorrect you have mentioned. Traction control will be available on all of the ECU's with a FREE software/firmware upgrade that should be coming out in the next few weeks once Andy has sorted out the best method of the functionality of the TC feature.

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For TC it just uses acelerometers?

so all the factory wheel speed senors must be wired to the traction control module?

Will the TC implimentation be individual wheel braking and engine power cut? of just engine cut?
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For TC it just uses acelerometers?

so all the factory wheel speed senors must be wired to the traction control module?

Will the TC implimentation be individual wheel braking and engine power cut? of just engine cut?

Hi,

I am trying to be clear as possible here - You do not need to install any modules to do traction control in the Rx8. Nor do you need to do any wiring. The ABS Module in the Rx8 provides all 4 wheel speed information to the Adaptronic ECU via CAN. If someone wanted to remove their ABS system that is when you would need to purchase a Real time monitor module and then you would wire in 4 speed sensors. But to clarify one more time You do not need to install any modules to do traction control in the Rx8.

Adaptronic just has not released the software/firmware update for it to function. This is a simple process as the Eugene software will update automaticly as long as you are connected to the internet and updating the firmware you will connect to the ECU via the USB cable and pull up Eugene -> click on the home tab -> then click the update FW button -> then select load -> Choose the modular folder -> choose the most recent updated firmware (which you can see if you sort by date) -> click open -> click load and wait for the progress bar to finish -> click verify. You will then exit out of the update FW boot loader and close eugene unplug your USB from your laptop and then reopen Eugene and plug the USB back in.

Once the ECU is connected in the lower left hand corner you will see a green bar showing you are connected to the ECU and the firmware version that is loaded onto the ECU.

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Hi there,

There is some information that is incorrect you have mentioned. Traction control will be available on all of the ECU's with a FREE software/firmware upgrade that should be coming out in the next few weeks once Andy has sorted out the best method of the functionality of the TC feature.

The Adaptronic Modular Rx8 unit has two small module spots available since the DBW and TC is integrated into the ECU. (TC data is taken over CAN from the ABS module) So you can install the second DBW module to control your PP ports and stage them so they open after X amount of throttle input ect and still have another slot if you need it.

Thanks,

Shawn Christenon
Good to know. I thought there was only 1 expansion slot available. Even better.

Another question for you while you're lurking. What about 8's that didn't come from the factory with TC like mine? Would I need the different ABS controller etc?

And will this ECU still support the immobilizer?
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Good to know. I thought there was only 1 expansion slot available. Even better.

Another question for you while you're lurking. What about 8's that didn't come from the factory with TC like mine? Would I need the different ABS controller etc?

And will this ECU still support the immobilizer?

The ABS unit still monitoring 4 wheel speeds so the adaptronic will still allow you do ignition/dbw throttle body traction control. So the answer is YES

Yes under the functions tab you will go to the CAN tab and there will be an option to enable the immobilizer. When it is enabled it gives you an option to learn the immobilizer code. When the code is learned the car will still start but then it will die 5 seconds later if the code is not recognized.

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First shipment of the new modular ecus arrived at Turblown today


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One thing I do like about MAP tuning is that it doesn’t care where the air is coming from. Not really a fan of this idea though



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It's so unique.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:55 PM   #137
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Has less resistance to flow I guess but isn't N/A volumetric efficiency more about keeping velocities high ?
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It was pretty fubar to do all that BP bs before testing it without first. They have some pics, a vid, and talk it up on their FB page, but as usual nothing “factual”, just feelz
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All of these are en route to their new owners( except you Mark, just sorting our the logistics on your order).

Please if anyone has any problems call us so we can help you over the phone, or do a teamviewer remote sessions if needed.
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