Adaptronic Select Discussion
#126
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they are the US master distributor and a number of members don't want them to profit from their purchases over some past dealings gone sour, it's that simple
this site is the main gathering place for USDM RX8 owners and this particular ECU would probably sell like hotcakes otherwise ...
this site is the main gathering place for USDM RX8 owners and this particular ECU would probably sell like hotcakes otherwise ...
#127
they are the US master distributor and a number of members don't want them to profit from their purchases over some past dealings gone sour, it's that simple
this site is the main gathering place for USDM RX8 owners and this particular ECU would probably sell like hotcakes otherwise ...
this site is the main gathering place for USDM RX8 owners and this particular ECU would probably sell like hotcakes otherwise ...
Yes he is the "Master Distributor" for us and other Vendors which means he is in charge of distributing the ECU's to Vendor's in the US. He does not see a dime from them unless bought directly through him at retail price. So you are really just hurting us and other vendors by refusing to buy the ECU.
This has obviously has affected us some on the sales here on the Forum as I do not see the response we should be getting. I sell these units often but it is through other sources and local RX-8 Owners.
I will say though Elliot does sell these ECU's "Like hotcakes" so a few people not buying them from him is not hurting him I assure you. It really is just making people miss out on a great platform to work with and hurting paying Vendors like our Company.
If there is anybody considering the Adaptronic route I would encourage you to PM us and think of us when ordering one. I will assure you I will help the community to the best of my ability with sales and customer support.
We do not only sell aftermarket parts. Our shop does everything from rebuilds to fully custom builds along with service work. So we can also assist with the technical side of the install and setup of the ECU.
#128
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He may sell a number in general, but lately around here it appears that he is giving more away than selling them at the usual price. Which kind of supports my other point above.
#130
I find that hard to believe. He has to get some kind of royalty or discount otherwise why be in the middle?
He may sell a number in general, but lately around here it appears that he is giving more away than selling them at the usual price. Which kind of supports my other point above.
He may sell a number in general, but lately around here it appears that he is giving more away than selling them at the usual price. Which kind of supports my other point above.
I am sure he is compensated in other ways for being in charge of such an operation. But as far as the money goes the price is the same as if we were to buy from Andy directly. Trust me that is a question we have asked before
I do not want this to sound like we are taking either side on the matter as that has nothing to do with our Business. We just want the community to know there is another outlet to buy the Adaptronic ECU's.
#132
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So he agrees to accept shipments on behalf of other sellers and then resend them out for no gain? It seems like you're not thinking it through too clearly ,,,,
I'm not saying its fair or right, but it seems like bridges got burned, feelings hurt, and some financial discourse too so thats just the way it is. Said vendor seems to understand the situation and hasn't been around in a long time where he used to be a regular. As far as I know he wasn't banned like some others were/are ....
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I'm not saying its fair or right, but it seems like bridges got burned, feelings hurt, and some financial discourse too so thats just the way it is. Said vendor seems to understand the situation and hasn't been around in a long time where he used to be a regular. As far as I know he wasn't banned like some others were/are ....
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#133
So he agrees to accept shipments on behalf of other sellers and then resend them out for no gain? It seems like you're not thinking it through too clearly ,,,,
I'm not saying its fair or right, but it seems like bridges got burned, feelings hurt, and some financial discourse too so thats just the way it is. Said vendor seems to understand the situation and hasn't been around in a long time where he used to be a regular. As far as I know he wasn't banned like some others were/are ....
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I'm not saying its fair or right, but it seems like bridges got burned, feelings hurt, and some financial discourse too so thats just the way it is. Said vendor seems to understand the situation and hasn't been around in a long time where he used to be a regular. As far as I know he wasn't banned like some others were/are ....
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As a Business Owner it is our responsibility to think it through clearly and we fully understand the deal that is in place between Elliot and Andy.
I understand there was some problems between the Vendor and Members here. That is exactly why we became a Supporting Vendor here to step in and make things right with the community and offer another option when purchasing an Adaptronic ECU. Simple as that
Like I said we will answer any questions to the best of our ability and offer the best customer support as possible when purchasing any products from us.
#134
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Well it looks like I now have an adaptronic unit on the way. I'm excited to give it a try.
I had a friend ditch the Adaptronic solution due to a CAS signal degradation over 7k rpm. His case was the first i have herd of this and i hope its isolated. From what i understand i can also run a boost controller directly off the set up since I will not be using the VFAD output. I will have to order the MAC valve for that along with the PLX interface modules. Any chance You can get your hands on one of those interface units Justin?
I had a friend ditch the Adaptronic solution due to a CAS signal degradation over 7k rpm. His case was the first i have herd of this and i hope its isolated. From what i understand i can also run a boost controller directly off the set up since I will not be using the VFAD output. I will have to order the MAC valve for that along with the PLX interface modules. Any chance You can get your hands on one of those interface units Justin?
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#136
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Well it looks like I now have an adaptronic unit on the way. I'm excited to give it a try.
I had a friend ditch the Adaptronic solution due to a CAS signal degradation over 7k rpm. His case was the first i have herd of this and i hope its isolated. From what i understand i can also run a boost controller directly off the set up since I will not be using the VFAD output. I will have to order the MAC valve for that along with the PLX interface modules. Any chance You can get your hands on one of those interface units Justin?
I had a friend ditch the Adaptronic solution due to a CAS signal degradation over 7k rpm. His case was the first i have herd of this and i hope its isolated. From what i understand i can also run a boost controller directly off the set up since I will not be using the VFAD output. I will have to order the MAC valve for that along with the PLX interface modules. Any chance You can get your hands on one of those interface units Justin?
For CAS signal degradation, did they try to have the unit warrantied or switch to a different CAS solution? Maybe it was an issue in the harness? Never really heard of that before. From what I've seen their customer service is very reasonable and will usually work with you to get issues ironed out.
These guys are a local company here and make some pretty trick stuff... I will be using their FD fuel rails and FD hall trigger kit.
Trigger Kits | Product Categories | Full Function Engineering
On another note, I think I made up my mind on fueling... going to be using 6x ID1000's and utilizing the new three stage injection that was introduced with the last software/firmware update.
#137
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Nice.
For CAS signal degradation, did they try to have the unit warrantied or switch to a different CAS solution? Maybe it was an issue in the harness? Never really heard of that before. From what I've seen their customer service is very reasonable and will usually work with you to get issues ironed out.
These guys are a local company here and make some pretty trick stuff... I will be using their FD fuel rails and FD hall trigger kit.
Trigger Kits | Product Categories | Full Function Engineering
On another note, I think I made up my mind on fueling... going to be using 6x ID1000's and utilizing the new three stage injection that was introduced with the last software/firmware update.
For CAS signal degradation, did they try to have the unit warrantied or switch to a different CAS solution? Maybe it was an issue in the harness? Never really heard of that before. From what I've seen their customer service is very reasonable and will usually work with you to get issues ironed out.
These guys are a local company here and make some pretty trick stuff... I will be using their FD fuel rails and FD hall trigger kit.
Trigger Kits | Product Categories | Full Function Engineering
On another note, I think I made up my mind on fueling... going to be using 6x ID1000's and utilizing the new three stage injection that was introduced with the last software/firmware update.
#139
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Ignition trigger problems are a huge issue....I have had difficulty with a number of supposedly complete RX-8 solutions....biggest was the Haltech units. Despite trying everything from stock trigger...to different trigger wheels they just weren't stable. Talking to a number of high end drag racers I am not alone
Ignition issues kill rotary engines...they need to figure this out
Ignition issues kill rotary engines...they need to figure this out
#140
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Ignition trigger problems are a huge issue....I have had difficulty with a number of supposedly complete RX-8 solutions....biggest was the Haltech units. Despite trying everything from stock trigger...to different trigger wheels they just weren't stable. Talking to a number of high end drag racers I am not alone
Ignition issues kill rotary engines...they need to figure this out
Ignition issues kill rotary engines...they need to figure this out
Just to confirm, you went to a newer Microtech unit with your 13B turbo swap and are pretty satisfied with it?
#142
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I'm still here if you guys need any help working thru the "standard" USDM issues. I've tuned and retuned mine a couple times with ease since getting it a couple years back.
I've also got (long standing) plans to install an external speed sensor (for the hell of it) and an aux IAT sensor. I'll be sure to write up the process once I actually get to them.
Am also still supporting Adaptive Tuner, however I have not yet tackled arbitrary fuel table mapping. Beyond that Adaptive Tuner works fine with the latest version of the Adaptronic firmware and I'm working on releasing an update that provides for switching the tuning mode (open/closed/adaptive) on the fly, similar to how I provide real-time fuel table editing.
Shell
I've also got (long standing) plans to install an external speed sensor (for the hell of it) and an aux IAT sensor. I'll be sure to write up the process once I actually get to them.
Am also still supporting Adaptive Tuner, however I have not yet tackled arbitrary fuel table mapping. Beyond that Adaptive Tuner works fine with the latest version of the Adaptronic firmware and I'm working on releasing an update that provides for switching the tuning mode (open/closed/adaptive) on the fly, similar to how I provide real-time fuel table editing.
Shell
#144
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I'm still here if you guys need any help working thru the "standard" USDM issues. I've tuned and retuned mine a couple times with ease since getting it a couple years back.
I've also got (long standing) plans to install an external speed sensor (for the hell of it) and an aux IAT sensor. I'll be sure to write up the process once I actually get to them.
Am also still supporting Adaptive Tuner, however I have not yet tackled arbitrary fuel table mapping. Beyond that Adaptive Tuner works fine with the latest version of the Adaptronic firmware and I'm working on releasing an update that provides for switching the tuning mode (open/closed/adaptive) on the fly, similar to how I provide real-time fuel table editing.
Shell
I've also got (long standing) plans to install an external speed sensor (for the hell of it) and an aux IAT sensor. I'll be sure to write up the process once I actually get to them.
Am also still supporting Adaptive Tuner, however I have not yet tackled arbitrary fuel table mapping. Beyond that Adaptive Tuner works fine with the latest version of the Adaptronic firmware and I'm working on releasing an update that provides for switching the tuning mode (open/closed/adaptive) on the fly, similar to how I provide real-time fuel table editing.
Shell
#149
Fister, an REW swap is exactly what i plan on doing also. i talked with Andy and Elliot before buying my adaptronic and both said it should be doable since the stock ecu will be controlling everything other than the engine. Also, one of our local shops, Rotorsports Racing willing be doing this same build sooner rather than later hopefully so if they can do it, we can do it.
#150
Fister, an REW swap is exactly what i plan on doing also. i talked with Andy and Elliot before buying my adaptronic and both said it should be doable since the stock ecu will be controlling everything other than the engine. Also, one of our local shops, Rotorsports Racing willing be doing this same build sooner rather than later hopefully so if they can do it, we can do it.
I agree I don't see any reason it couldn't work with an REW and the 8's CAN. I'll be doing further digging into it, as I'm leaning toward this route.