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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:34 AM
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I was pretty sure LTFT did affect open loop because I thought i saw it do just that - what is this "other" calculation ?
I've actually seen set LTFT values in open loop for some odd reason. While STFT does something wacky like -0.16% or something the LTFT I've seen would go 3% or 5% under some situations.

Is this a false readout? Technically there shouldn't be any alterations to open loop but I'm curious if the PCM can cheat.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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I have been beating my head against the wall trying to get the new AccessTuner Race to connect LIVE to my ECU. I have an '04 6-Speed. I've opened the newest versions of the Cobb Stock and Modified Maps in ATR, and saved them under a new filename. I then flashed them (one at a time) to my ECU. Problem is that when I try to connect to the ECU I get an error something like "Cannot connect to live ECU". I've tried may different versions of the AP Dongle driver, and it shows up in Windows Device Manage. I'm running a plain Jain Windows XP SP2. I've even tried several different computers, thinking it might be a configuration issue.

ATR works great to edit maps, and they seem to work well when I flash them onto my car. There are tons of options and tweaks..probably enough to be quite dangerous.

So, Does anyone have some advice on how to get this sucker to work???

Help would be appreciated....and YES I did search quite a bit here and over on the Cobb Forums, and found nothing that helped.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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did you download the extra dongle driver thats not packaged with the ATR software?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WildmanRacing
I have been beating my head against the wall trying to get the new AccessTuner Race to connect LIVE to my ECU.
Originally Posted by r0tor
did you download the extra dongle driver thats not packaged with the ATR software?
Read THIS.

Originally Posted by Huzer21
09-23-2008, 08:34 AM
Well, for any Cobb users, AccessTUNER Race is available. You can create your own maps, datalog, etc, etc. To datalog, you also have to download the dongle driver (not my words) for it to connect to your car. So the easy steps:



Download the AccessPORT Updater (http://www.accessecu.com/cgi-bin/dow...ORTUpdater.exe). Not needed for the tuner software, but it's an easier way to keep the firmware on the AP updated. Think of it as a live updater, almost.

Download the newest AP Manager (http://www.accessecu.com/support/AP-Mgr-Setup.exe). Not needed for this, but there's a newer one out there. Install is typical rambo click.

Download AccessTUNER Race (http://cobbtuning.com/info/?id=4214). Short survey you have to fill it, then they email you the link. Typical easy install, once again.

Download the dongle drivers (http://www.accessecu.com/support/Don...verInstall.exe) from Cobb.


And you're good to go. The page Cobb updates with new info for the RX-8, other than the forums, is http://www.cobbtuning.com/info/?ID=3873. I actually ran through some datalogging this morning just to check it out. When I tried last night, ran into a few issues. The OBD2/USB cable was broken...it would work just enough to get power to the AP, but wouldn't communicate to the car. My Blackberry USB cable fixed that. And, I had to search for the dongle drivers, those weren't included or mentioned at all in the Tuner install instructions, nor is anything about connection for datalogging in the PDF at all. All in all, a fun new toy to play with. Watching the 3D graphs and charts update in realtime is wild stuff.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Only in PRO version.
I thought anyone who has the ATR can set those values. I know I can.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Can you post a screenshot?? Please?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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I will try
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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I do not see a place to set the SSV RPM. And the APV table doesn't look like I would expect it to . At least like the VDI and VFAD tables do anyway.

AccesTuner Race....Questions & Discussion-apv.jpg

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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Yeah, that is all I see. APV based on ECT and no SSV control.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Those are the same tables I have. Other than the opening rpm of the VFAD and VDI, what else do you want to control?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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the RPM that the secondary shutter valve opens. Hell, I would be happy with an uneditable window that confirms the RPM that it opens.

Dont get me wrong; the software is free, so I am not complaining.
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Arrrgg

Originally Posted by carbonRX8
Read THIS.
Man, thanks for the help, but I tried all of this and much more and I still get the dreaded "cannot connect to live ecu" I know I have the right map flashed, I see the Cobb OBDII to USB device in my Device Manager, the Racetuner software seems to work great...I can even choose my LC-1 for a/f, but I can't connect to the dang ecu for live datalogging.

Course Cobb is not much help, since this is Beta software. Even when you install the dongle drivers, they say "device not connected, can't update drivers", even though the dongle is hooked to the car, and the car is on (IGN). NO Joy.

Say on a whole different note, does anyone know which pin on the Greddy Emanage Ultimate option ports the +5 volts from the WBO2 sensor goes. I've searched for hours and come up with several different answers (center or left) and I know it's not the right bin, because it's black and has a direct connection to ground?

Thanks for the help...Still waiting on my 4.0.1 map from MM so I can finnaly start driving my Turbo8

Later!
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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Two things first:

One of my computers completely refuses to load the AP drivers. Period. It simply will not play nice. The other one works, so maybe you need a different computer. Cobb was very helpful on this issue but could not solve (then they banned me from their forum; go figure.)

The other thing is that I have not played with the live ecu. I am pretty sure it works, but I cant speak from experience. I will try it tomorrow and let you know.

Having said that, did you run the ap updater AFTER you ran the dongle driver install? I am pretty sure you have to do that.
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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I need to admit here that despite posting info, I cant get my ATR to datalog live either

So in the interests of full disclosure, I fail. But I am still trying
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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i cant get live data either. again i have windows vista.. This may be the problem??
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Old May 31, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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In reference to the ATR's use of barometric pressure in several tables:

What are the units (when the option is selected for standard units) that the ATR uses for Baro?

Alternatively, what is equivalent to pressure at sea level?
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Old May 31, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by myriadshalaks
psi at sea level is 14.7. does that help?
No.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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Put me on the cannot get data logging to work list.
(details, EeePC 4g running XP)
I've spent the entire day thus far searching and reading the Cobb-Forums and the RX8 forums, this shouldn't be this hard. Good chance is that I'm just a moron but there is some comfort that others are having problems to, or the world is just full of morons.

I've tried several methods to install the Dongle update software:
- with the AP unit attached to pc
- with the AP unit not connected to pc
- PC connected to dongle while plugged into ODBII receptacle
- PC connected to dongle not connect to ODBII receptacle
Each time I run through the install I get an error "The device is not plugged, cannot update the driver."
So I'm guessing this has something to do with it. That or the fact that I currently have a MazdaManiac map loaded in to the cars PCM so that maybe blocking the logging function.

I will switch things up later to see what happens.

Back to searching......

Last edited by wcs; May 31, 2009 at 01:53 PM. Reason: typo
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Old May 31, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
I need to admit here that despite posting info, I cant get my ATR to datalog live either

So in the interests of full disclosure, I fail. But I am still trying
Me too

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Old May 31, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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do you guys have the latest ap updater installed?
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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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I will check but I'm pretty sure.
Would the AP Updater not get updated if there was an update for the Updater?
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Old May 31, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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You can't connect to a live ECU with a locked Pro Tuner map loaded (the MM map is one of those)
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Old May 31, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
In reference to the ATR's use of barometric pressure in several tables:

What are the units (when the option is selected for standard units) that the ATR uses for Baro?

Alternatively, what is equivalent to pressure at sea level?
I had a feeling it was either bar or atmosphere the calibration goes up to the thousands from memory.
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