i got this done at my dealer for around $130 total. they told me it will only take 30min and they drove my car out the dealer and test drive it. are they suppose to do this?

 

No

Cuz they suppose to make the engine hot first, put the stuff in, let it sit inside for at least an hour. then burn it off.

 

i'm putting on a midpipe Monday jackson.. before I do the install though i'm going to run the zoom zoom cleaner through again and let it settle while I install.. then I'm going to see if I *finally* get some smoke which will prove my theory that my CAT has been screwed since forever..

 

finally, the mystery will be solved!

 

you can buy this cleaner on ebay. I got it for 16$ shipped. Just to let everyone known

seller name: kattfood
Looks good for me

 

As in burn off. do they drive it out? Egh :[ i guess ill just buy a bottle and do it properly

 

no... click on page one of this thread and follow each step to its entirety...

 

^ I concur. The procedure is described in detail in this very thread. They service guys should be doing whatever is listed there as the procedure.

 

So i basically got screwed over :[ when they start my car, i saw no smoke at all. what the hell is going on?

 

Were you watching them do the whole thing? Its supposed to sit inside the engine for like an hour before starting it. Then, they start it and see smoke.

 

I never saw smoke on the two times I did it. That was with my CAT on though.. which I believe was clogged. I will run the cleaner through again on Sunday.. this time I have a midpipe on.

 

yeah i was watching them outside, i was sitting their eating chips. and 20mins later i see a guy haul *** in my car, getting on the expressway and waste my gas when they drove out their was no smoke. and i didn't see any smoke in the air either :[ my car has 12K miles. yeah more like sitting in my engine for 30mins

 

I would print out the TSB and show it to the dealer and tell them to do it right this time.

 

I would, but i kinda don't want to be a dick about it.

So i have no choice, but to do it my self

 

I guess that's one way of looking at it..

they also screwed you out of $130... that would **** me off..

 

True. egh ill just let it be. and do it on my own for now on. and they told me spark plugs would cost me over $500 not even including labor just shoot me seriously.

 

Holy dog manure... please post that stealership in the worst ever thread.. the plugs shouldn't cost you more than $125 shipped and the install is easy as baking a pie.. if someone at a dealership wanted to charge me that for plugs I would literally say "awesome does your wife come with that $500, or is that in the labor?" and walk away.

 

Lol well im in luck cause i know this guy who works with Rotary engines and some other cars. he does porting to swaps and turbo installs. hes the only rotary wiz up till san antonio from McAllen. His work is awesome, one of his customers has a Rx7 FC pushing more then 500hp.... I asked him how much is for spark plugs and installation? he told me between 125-200 so i think thats not bad. ill tell him to do the Zoom power engine cleaner and spark plugs.

How long do spark plugs last?

 

every 30k I believe. that guy sounds like the winner.

 

if you get 20k miles out of the plugs you are doing well. 25k is about as far as they should go..

beers

 

Sweet! i have around 12K and the car idles pretty bad. Only once the car turned off on me :[ ill just get them replaced soon.

 

check your coils that's most likely the culprit

 

ok ill check it when the sun is up. but as this mileage?

 

OK.

I work @ a Service Department. This 'Combustion chamber cleaner' can be installed in many ways. the best, most effective way of using it, is to inject the chemical into a hot engine as states in the first post, then let it sit for an hour or so....however, after starting up vehicle (assembled) take it for a blast at high rpms. with an increased engine load, carbon deposits are cleaned off further and the process is more effective. Ive done this service many times and that is by far the best. If your dealer drove the vehicle after the process, you should really thank him instead of not knowing whats going on and criticizing. Its the ones that dont drive it after service are the ones you SHOULD look out for. With no engine load, your not using the chemical to its full potential. Most of the time, dealers will spray it and pull it right out (time is money and a tech will not babysit) unless they set it aside for later (unlikely).
Oh, and you will see a LOT of smoke.. its fascinating IMO.

 

Thanks for your thoughts... No offense but you just said the most effective way to do the clean is to let it sit for an hour.. then you say most the dealers spray and drive... hrmmmm.