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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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Is that the tool to remove the lid or the lid itself?

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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by auzoom
Is that the tool to remove the lid or the lid itself?

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Andrew
if that is aimed at me that is the big ring that holds down the fuel pump in the 04 to 08.

the part # i have the the fuel pump tool. and i was infomed by someone that knew the old tool that this is the new and improved tool..

part # for that was 49f0-42-001 and is way to much money.. but make the job simple..

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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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If you make friends with your service people, borrowing the tool isn't out of the question.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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Anybody have a picture of the Mazda tool. I might try and make one as a welding project.
The generic one I got from Amazon would be very simple to fabricate (and improve upon.) You could make it from sheet metal with a vice, an angle grinder and a drill. Using plate or welding in some bracing would make for a huge improvement though.
I can send a pic of what's left of mine if you'd like.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by skrubol
The generic one I got from Amazon would be very simple to fabricate (and improve upon.) You could make it from sheet metal with a vice, an angle grinder and a drill. Using plate or welding in some bracing would make for a huge improvement though.
I can send a pic of what's left of mine if you'd like.
Yeah a couple of pics would be nice, I think I'm going to try to make one just the way you said. Swoope and Expo1 sent me a link to a picture of the Mazda tool.

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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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its like 1 page back
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by justjim
Yeah a couple of pics would be nice, I think I'm going to try to make one just the way you said. Swoope and Expo1 sent me a link to a picture of the Mazda tool.
i can send you the tool, but it will be after mar 7.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Just FYI, I contacted Mazmart about possibly tracking down some filters to sell. They'll look into it and with a little luck, might actually yield us a better solution than cleaning it ourselves (questionable effectiveness / potentially damaging to filter?) or buying a brand new fuel pump (cost prohibitive).

Here's hopin.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
if that is aimed at me that is the big ring that holds down the fuel pump in the 04 to 08.

the part # i have the the fuel pump tool. and i was infomed by someone that knew the old tool that this is the new and improved tool..

part # for that was 49f0-42-001 and is way to much money.. but make the job simple..

beers

Swoope
Just to confirm that it is the same part number listed in the Genuine 09 WS Manual for the latest fuel pump removal tool., So it does all RX-8's.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 03:15 AM
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Nice DIY but I'd be also trying one of these newfangled Jar openers that use the rubber straps - I reckon they'd get the lock ring off in no time... I've seen these in hardware and homewares stores over here.

eg: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-Pc-Rubber-S...dZp1638Q2em122
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SARRAS
Nice DIY but I'd be also trying one of these newfangled Jar openers that use the rubber straps - I reckon they'd get the lock ring off in no time... I've seen these in hardware and homewares stores over here.

eg: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-Pc-Rubber-S...dZp1638Q2em122
good luck with that.. it is a location issue.

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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Replace it with the 2009 fuel pump.

It will take some work, but you can do it. There is a thread on this conversion.

Sorry, can't find it. Ask Oldragger tell him I sent you.

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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Depending on your relationship with your local mazda service place, you may be able to borrow the SST. My place was nice about it.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8SaxMan
I just swapped out my fuel pump a couple days ago and the hammer method of removing the ring was a complete failure. I ended up breaking a couple tabs before giving up. Instead I went online and found this tool:

http://www.amazon.com/Tank-Fuel-Pump.../dp/B000I14PGQ

It's less than $20 and got the job done. Compared to the official Mazda tool it is somewhat flimsy, but it's a hell of a lot easier than with no tool at all.
Same tool (Lock Technologies LTI 940/ NAPA 770-8001) is available from your local NAPA dealer, usually next-day from the warehouse, for ~$23. I know this because I just ordered one, along with a head-bolt set for the daughter's dog-assed Suzuki Forenze (leaking / blown head gasket).

Have also heard from a auto tech to shoot the inside of the retention ring with a good penetrating oil (not WD-40) before trying to loosen it.

Last edited by Striker-7; Apr 16, 2009 at 06:24 PM. Reason: Added NAPA part #770-8001
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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My apologies in advance if this is a DA question but is the the ONLY fuel filter in the car or is the another canister-tyep one somewhere?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SARRAS
My apologies in advance if this is a DA question but is the the ONLY fuel filter in the car or is the another canister-tyep one somewhere?
Hi,

You are correct, this is the only fuel filter in the RX-8 (like many cars of today).

So if you have dirty fuel in your tank or a blockage, generally you will need to have your "sock" filter cleaned and tanks also cleaned out.

Always start at the source.....then move to the front of the car.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Hi,

You are correct, this is the only fuel filter in the RX-8 (like many cars of today).

So if you have dirty fuel in your tank or a blockage, generally you will need to have your "sock" filter cleaned and tanks also cleaned out.

Always start at the source.....then move to the front of the car.
Wow okay - I'd better get to this soon then as I have noticed the occasional 'fuel starvation' issue under hard use.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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Wow okay - I'd better get to this soon then as I have noticed the occasional 'fuel starvation' issue under hard use.
Does the starvation issue under hard use happen when you are low on fuel, as in most cases this is the cause...low fuel levels...

It is your pump, and it is not necessarily faulty.

The 2009 Rx-8's have a better (new) fuel pump, you can fit them with some modifications if you want to, it appears to fix this issue.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Does the starvation issue under hard use happen when you are low on fuel, as in most cases this is the cause...low fuel levels...

It is your pump, and it is not necessarily faulty.

The 2009 Rx-8's have a better (new) fuel pump, you can fit them with some modifications if you want to, it appears to fix this issue.
No its not that much of a pattern - meaning sometimes it'll happen with a near full tank early in a run, sometimes on a 1/4 tank after a long run - its very erratic and not common either - once a week or so. Definitely feels to me like a clogging fuel filter. The car's got 45K on it anyway so no harm in doing this proceedure and see what's in the sock as such.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SARRAS
No its not that much of a pattern - meaning sometimes it'll happen with a near full tank early in a run, sometimes on a 1/4 tank after a long run - its very erratic and not common either - once a week or so. Definitely feels to me like a clogging fuel filter. The car's got 45K on it anyway so no harm in doing this proceedure and see what's in the sock as such.
the problem is that once the sock clogs over a period of time the pump will continue to overheat.

once it does it once it is a slow dieing process.

i have three pumps, all in different stages of death..

cleaning or replacing the sock is a very temporary fix!

and to anyone in need. i have a new pump, unused for sale. send me a pm. i could modify it with a different more porous sock if you like.

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Guys, I am having trouble disconnecting the fuel line...how is that done exactly?
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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HELP! - So, I am trying to put the fuel filter back in and I can't get it tight enough. Is it correct that it needs to go a minimum of 1.25 turns and a max of 1.5 turns? I don't think there is any way I can get it 1.25 turns. I broke the ring getting it off and have a new one, but I can't seem to get it tight enough - what can I do?
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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awesome write up just did mine even though it wasnt needed lol i did it anyway
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SARRAS
No its not that much of a pattern - meaning sometimes it'll happen with a near full tank early in a run, sometimes on a 1/4 tank after a long run - its very erratic and not common either - once a week or so. Definitely feels to me like a clogging fuel filter. The car's got 45K on it anyway so no harm in doing this proceedure and see what's in the sock as such.
Coming back to an old thread... I should mention that I still haven't changed the pump - got the tool as mentioned earlier off the Amazon.com site - but found it to be a useless piece of junk. So back to trying to import a real tool...

Meanwhile... based on another piece of advice in another post from on here - gave the MAF sensor a good clean with electronics cleaner and changed what turned out to be a filthy air filter and the problem has vanished completely.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Wow, went to the dealer to try and get them to tighten the cap down for me, or let me borrow the tool - they not only wouldn't let me borrow it, they charged me $60 for them to tighten it!!!!!!!!!!! I spoke with the manager, but he didn't care - today was a bad day

I found out NAPA sells the tool they have for $18 but it was too late and I needed my car running and the fuel pump not leaking.

today was a terrible awful no good very bad day...
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