DIY: Clean the in-tank sock filter.
02-16-2009, 01:41 AM
#52
if that is aimed at me that is the big ring that holds down the fuel pump in the 04 to 08.
the part # i have the the fuel pump tool. and i was infomed by someone that knew the old tool that this is the new and improved tool..
part # for that was 49f0-42-001 and is way to much money..
but make the job simple..
beers
the part # i have the the fuel pump tool. and i was infomed by someone that knew the old tool that this is the new and improved tool..
part # for that was 49f0-42-001 and is way to much money..
but make the job simple..beers
02-16-2009, 07:38 AM
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I can send a pic of what's left of mine if you'd like.
02-16-2009, 11:03 AM
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The generic one I got from Amazon would be very simple to fabricate (and improve upon.) You could make it from sheet metal with a vice, an angle grinder and a drill. Using plate or welding in some bracing would make for a huge improvement though.
I can send a pic of what's left of mine if you'd like.
I can send a pic of what's left of mine if you'd like.
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02-23-2009, 08:56 AM
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Just FYI, I contacted Mazmart about possibly tracking down some filters to sell. They'll look into it and with a little luck, might actually yield us a better solution than cleaning it ourselves (questionable effectiveness / potentially damaging to filter?) or buying a brand new fuel pump (cost prohibitive).
Here's hopin.
Here's hopin.
03-05-2009, 12:22 AM
#59
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if that is aimed at me that is the big ring that holds down the fuel pump in the 04 to 08.
the part # i have the the fuel pump tool. and i was infomed by someone that knew the old tool that this is the new and improved tool..
part # for that was 49f0-42-001 and is way to much money.. but make the job simple..
beers
the part # i have the the fuel pump tool. and i was infomed by someone that knew the old tool that this is the new and improved tool..
part # for that was 49f0-42-001 and is way to much money..
but make the job simple..beers
Swoope
Just to confirm that it is the same part number listed in the Genuine 09 WS Manual for the latest fuel pump removal tool., So it does all RX-8's.
Ash
03-05-2009, 03:15 AM
#60
Sydney, Australia
Nice DIY but I'd be also trying one of these newfangled Jar openers that use the rubber straps - I reckon they'd get the lock ring off in no time... I've seen these in hardware and homewares stores over here.
eg: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-Pc-Rubber-S...dZp1638Q2em122
eg: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-Pc-Rubber-S...dZp1638Q2em122
Last edited by SARRAS; 03-05-2009 at 03:25 AM.
03-05-2009, 08:30 AM
#61
Nice DIY but I'd be also trying one of these newfangled Jar openers that use the rubber straps - I reckon they'd get the lock ring off in no time... I've seen these in hardware and homewares stores over here.
eg: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-Pc-Rubber-S...dZp1638Q2em122
eg: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/3-Pc-Rubber-S...dZp1638Q2em122
beers
03-22-2009, 04:33 PM
#62
Replace it with the 2009 fuel pump.
It will take some work, but you can do it. There is a thread on this conversion.
Sorry, can't find it. Ask Oldragger tell him I sent you.
It will take some work, but you can do it. There is a thread on this conversion.
Sorry, can't find it. Ask Oldragger tell him I sent you.
Last edited by Razz1; 03-22-2009 at 04:45 PM.
04-13-2009, 01:56 PM
#64
I just swapped out my fuel pump a couple days ago and the hammer method of removing the ring was a complete failure. I ended up breaking a couple tabs before giving up. Instead I went online and found this tool:
http://www.amazon.com/Tank-Fuel-Pump.../dp/B000I14PGQ
It's less than $20 and got the job done. Compared to the official Mazda tool it is somewhat flimsy, but it's a hell of a lot easier than with no tool at all.
http://www.amazon.com/Tank-Fuel-Pump.../dp/B000I14PGQ
It's less than $20 and got the job done. Compared to the official Mazda tool it is somewhat flimsy, but it's a hell of a lot easier than with no tool at all.
Have also heard from a auto tech to shoot the inside of the retention ring with a good penetrating oil (not WD-40) before trying to loosen it.
Last edited by Striker-7; 04-16-2009 at 06:24 PM. Reason: Added NAPA part #770-8001
04-19-2009, 12:10 AM
#66
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You are correct, this is the only fuel filter in the RX-8 (like many cars of today).
So if you have dirty fuel in your tank or a blockage, generally you will need to have your "sock" filter cleaned and tanks also cleaned out.
Always start at the source.....then move to the front of the car.
04-19-2009, 02:25 AM
#67
Sydney, Australia
Hi,
You are correct, this is the only fuel filter in the RX-8 (like many cars of today).
So if you have dirty fuel in your tank or a blockage, generally you will need to have your "sock" filter cleaned and tanks also cleaned out.
Always start at the source.....then move to the front of the car.
You are correct, this is the only fuel filter in the RX-8 (like many cars of today).
So if you have dirty fuel in your tank or a blockage, generally you will need to have your "sock" filter cleaned and tanks also cleaned out.
Always start at the source.....then move to the front of the car.
04-19-2009, 05:28 AM
#68
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It is your pump, and it is not necessarily faulty.
The 2009 Rx-8's have a better (new) fuel pump, you can fit them with some modifications if you want to, it appears to fix this issue.
04-19-2009, 07:47 AM
#69
Sydney, Australia
Does the starvation issue under hard use happen when you are low on fuel, as in most cases this is the cause...low fuel levels...
It is your pump, and it is not necessarily faulty.
The 2009 Rx-8's have a better (new) fuel pump, you can fit them with some modifications if you want to, it appears to fix this issue.
It is your pump, and it is not necessarily faulty.
The 2009 Rx-8's have a better (new) fuel pump, you can fit them with some modifications if you want to, it appears to fix this issue.
04-19-2009, 07:46 PM
#70
No its not that much of a pattern - meaning sometimes it'll happen with a near full tank early in a run, sometimes on a 1/4 tank after a long run - its very erratic and not common either - once a week or so. Definitely feels to me like a clogging fuel filter. The car's got 45K on it anyway so no harm in doing this proceedure and see what's in the sock as such.
once it does it once it is a slow dieing process.
i have three pumps, all in different stages of death..
cleaning or replacing the sock is a very temporary fix!
and to anyone in need. i have a new pump, unused for sale. send me a pm. i could modify it with a different more porous sock if you like.
beers
07-01-2009, 06:55 PM
#72
...pondering...
HELP! - So, I am trying to put the fuel filter back in and I can't get it tight enough. Is it correct that it needs to go a minimum of 1.25 turns and a max of 1.5 turns? I don't think there is any way I can get it 1.25 turns. I broke the ring getting it off and have a new one, but I can't seem to get it tight enough - what can I do?
07-02-2009, 08:50 AM
#74
Sydney, Australia
No its not that much of a pattern - meaning sometimes it'll happen with a near full tank early in a run, sometimes on a 1/4 tank after a long run - its very erratic and not common either - once a week or so. Definitely feels to me like a clogging fuel filter. The car's got 45K on it anyway so no harm in doing this proceedure and see what's in the sock as such.
Meanwhile... based on another piece of advice in another post from on here - gave the MAF sensor a good clean with electronics cleaner and changed what turned out to be a filthy air filter and the problem has vanished completely.
07-02-2009, 09:52 AM
#75
...pondering...
Wow, went to the dealer to try and get them to tighten the cap down for me, or let me borrow the tool - they not only wouldn't let me borrow it, they charged me $60 for them to tighten it!!!!!!!!!!! I spoke with the manager, but he didn't care - today was a bad day
I found out NAPA sells the tool they have for $18 but it was too late and I needed my car running and the fuel pump not leaking.
today was a terrible awful no good very bad day...
I found out NAPA sells the tool they have for $18 but it was too late and I needed my car running and the fuel pump not leaking.
today was a terrible awful no good very bad day...