why cant the RX8 make horsepower?
07-19-2006, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Mine has too much ramalamamamboumph steer.
I need a smaller gas pedal.
BTW - Nice camel-toe, Tim!
I need a smaller gas pedal.
BTW - Nice camel-toe, Tim!
BTW: Will I blow my engine if I go FI cause I really want more power to race my friend in his 350Z but I don't wanna blow my engine and I heard that I will blow my engine but I don't know if I will or not but the gas mileage sucks but then I take 'em to the twisties and then he'll see what the rx-8 is for 'cause its made for the twisties which is kinda like the RPM thing 'cause it revs to 9k but there's no torque eventhough there's like 215hp at the flywheel there's 0ft-lbs torque and we all know that torque is what you need but a lightweight flywheel will just free-up horsepower it won't add any horsepower or torque but it will make you feel like your going faster but that's just because the engine is reving faster but eventhough its going through the RPMs quicker the car isn't any faster it just feels that way but adding FI will definitely make you go faster but I don't know how much faster it will go cause I need to go faster than my friend in his 350Z but not if I'm going to blow my engine.
07-19-2006, 05:36 PM
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RX8 and a Truk....
Your spelling betrays you MD - a newb who'd draft that wonderful piece of forum content would spell 'egnine' as 'injin' and use 'ur' for 'you're' and 'your' when they really needed 'you're'.
07-19-2006, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Your spelling betrays you MD - a newb who'd draft that wonderful piece of forum content would spell 'egnine' as 'injin' and use 'ur' for 'you're' and 'your' when they really needed 'you're'.
07-19-2006, 05:59 PM
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^ Haha! nice...
You're right, DMP, people should have to suffer for their ineptitude. If they don't what drives them forward? Its like so many Pavlovian experiments: without a little negative reinforcement, how will they learn? What will prevent this forum from being a repository of the same question being asked over and over again? (that's a rehtorical question since the answer is obviously that nothing has prevented or will prevent this) I suppose since we have to 'play nice' and welcome every one with open arms into our sandbox that we're doomed to be like Prometheus or Sisyphus. Hey n00bs: if you don't understand my allusions, let me dumb it down for you: ITS LIKE FRIGGIN' GROUNDHOG DAY IN HERE
You're right, DMP, people should have to suffer for their ineptitude. If they don't what drives them forward? Its like so many Pavlovian experiments: without a little negative reinforcement, how will they learn? What will prevent this forum from being a repository of the same question being asked over and over again? (that's a rehtorical question since the answer is obviously that nothing has prevented or will prevent this) I suppose since we have to 'play nice' and welcome every one with open arms into our sandbox that we're doomed to be like Prometheus or Sisyphus. Hey n00bs: if you don't understand my allusions, let me dumb it down for you: ITS LIKE FRIGGIN' GROUNDHOG DAY IN HERE
07-19-2006, 06:20 PM
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i have anger spurts once in awhile, i ask simple questions, becusae.. the fact of the matter. is t he search button doesnt always work, and then you'll have to sift threw pages of uslessness.. and threads..
i ask simple questions, then no-one answeres me, then i keep asking, and then people get mad? then tell me not to get mad? sorry if you find that im below you, im doing something i like to call LEARNING, how am i suppose to learn when all i do is get flammed, becuase im sure everyone on here was born with all the knowledge about rotary engines without having to learn...sorry that im 20 years old and dont have the knowledge that alot of the people have here...
i ask simple questions, then no-one answeres me, then i keep asking, and then people get mad? then tell me not to get mad? sorry if you find that im below you, im doing something i like to call LEARNING, how am i suppose to learn when all i do is get flammed, becuase im sure everyone on here was born with all the knowledge about rotary engines without having to learn...sorry that im 20 years old and dont have the knowledge that alot of the people have here...
07-19-2006, 06:46 PM
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skip, learn to use the internet, just cuz people do not answer your questions does not mean you have the right to get angry and keep asking.
http://www.allpar.com/eek/hp-vs-torque.html http://member.rivernet.com.au/btaylo...ginePower.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question622.htm
http://www.allpar.com/eek/hp-vs-torque.html http://member.rivernet.com.au/btaylo...ginePower.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question622.htm
07-19-2006, 07:41 PM
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07-19-2006, 08:58 PM
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RX8 and a Truk....
Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
i have anger spurts once in awhile, i ask simple questions, becusae.. the fact of the matter. is t he search button doesnt always work, and then you'll have to sift threw pages of uslessness.. and threads..
i ask simple questions, then no-one answeres me, then i keep asking, and then people get mad? then tell me not to get mad? sorry if you find that im below you, im doing something i like to call LEARNING, how am i suppose to learn when all i do is get flammed, becuase im sure everyone on here was born with all the knowledge about rotary engines without having to learn...sorry that im 20 years old and dont have the knowledge that alot of the people have here...
i ask simple questions, then no-one answeres me, then i keep asking, and then people get mad? then tell me not to get mad? sorry if you find that im below you, im doing something i like to call LEARNING, how am i suppose to learn when all i do is get flammed, becuase im sure everyone on here was born with all the knowledge about rotary engines without having to learn...sorry that im 20 years old and dont have the knowledge that alot of the people have here...
what eats my lunch is when people ask questions which are EASY to find with either a search, or just simply hanging around the board. And sifting thru webpages for data?? holyhell!! when i was a kid I had to (gasp!) Ride my bike to the Library and check out a BOOK when I wanted to learn.
07-19-2006, 09:31 PM
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sigh, i wasnt asking how torque worked, people always get so worked up becasue the exhuast only yields a couple hp gains, what i was saying and asking is maybe the exhaust creates more torque then it does the hp, becuase of better airflow, its all about Hp on this board, hp and weight, and im saying dont disclude torque.. yes, its greatly related to Hp, i see that, i know that, i jsut dont know why so many people are only obsessed with nothing but hp..
07-19-2006, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
sigh, i wasnt asking how torque worked, people always get so worked up becasue the exhuast only yields a couple hp gains, what i was saying and asking is maybe the exhaust creates more torque then it does the hp, becuase of better airflow, its all about Hp on this board, hp and weight, and im saying dont disclude torque.. yes, its greatly related to Hp, i see that, i know that, i jsut dont know why so many people are only obsessed with nothing but hp..
Mind you we're talking maximum HP when the manufacturers make their claims. A HP increase may only be at a certain RPM range, and therefore the torque increase will also only be within a specific range as well.
Chris...
07-19-2006, 10:32 PM
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RX8 and a Truk....
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No no no. It is not "greatly related" and nothing can create "more torque then it does the hp [sic]".
You don't get it, so you should be "asking how torque work(s)".
You don't get it, so you should be "asking how torque work(s)".
My PGT was 242hp/260lbs-ft at the wrongwheels
07-20-2006, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
i have anger spurts once in awhile, i ask simple questions, becusae.. the fact of the matter. is t he search button doesnt always work, and then you'll have to sift threw pages of uslessness.. and threads..
i ask simple questions, then no-one answeres me, then i keep asking, and then people get mad? then tell me not to get mad? sorry if you find that im below you, im doing something i like to call LEARNING, how am i suppose to learn when all i do is get flammed, becuase im sure everyone on here was born with all the knowledge about rotary engines without having to learn...sorry that im 20 years old and dont have the knowledge that alot of the people have here...
i ask simple questions, then no-one answeres me, then i keep asking, and then people get mad? then tell me not to get mad? sorry if you find that im below you, im doing something i like to call LEARNING, how am i suppose to learn when all i do is get flammed, becuase im sure everyone on here was born with all the knowledge about rotary engines without having to learn...sorry that im 20 years old and dont have the knowledge that alot of the people have here...
07-20-2006, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
. Forums and the Internet aren't going to hand everything to you in a neat package -- you gotta work for it a little. .
Originally Posted by saturn
You should be reading 100 posts before you post one yourself
Im a redhead.. i get angry easy
.. j/k..i do appreciate the help
07-20-2006, 09:59 AM
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RX8 and a Truk....
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I had you beat.
My MX-3 - 293.8 HP/248.5 ft/lbs (also at the wrong wheels).
My MX-3 - 293.8 HP/248.5 ft/lbs (also at the wrong wheels).
Still, I only had $4000 invested, AND only 8psi...AND uh...I got the car for free! 
Oh! And I pwn3d you at 3500 rpms!! :D
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04-08-2008, 09:41 AM
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You do realize you resurrected a nearly 2 year old thread just to post that don't you?
I still think the 2JZ is overrated. See the other threads on it.
You do realize you resurrected a nearly 2 year old thread just to post that don't you?
I still think the 2JZ is overrated. See the other threads on it.
04-08-2008, 02:42 PM
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didnt read the whole thread cuz lazy but i really wanna say something about this topic.
From marketing view, they reason why mazda makes rx8 look like what we drive now is to increase their sales. comparing with s2k and 350z, rx8 visually got more consumers cuz its not only a sport car and it also can be daily driven. "yeah, it is a four door family car" .
however, based on the performance, obviously rx8 is not perfect. it doesnt have much horsepower and its not as light as s2k. however, its cheaper and considering about how much money you paid for this car, you should see that it is already good enough.
now you combine these two points, if you gave rx8 400 horsepower and make it handles close to a 230 horsepower rx8, absolutely the price would have been increased about 30-40 percent. Will there still be a lot of consumers buying them?
From marketing view, they reason why mazda makes rx8 look like what we drive now is to increase their sales. comparing with s2k and 350z, rx8 visually got more consumers cuz its not only a sport car and it also can be daily driven. "yeah, it is a four door family car" .
however, based on the performance, obviously rx8 is not perfect. it doesnt have much horsepower and its not as light as s2k. however, its cheaper and considering about how much money you paid for this car, you should see that it is already good enough.
now you combine these two points, if you gave rx8 400 horsepower and make it handles close to a 230 horsepower rx8, absolutely the price would have been increased about 30-40 percent. Will there still be a lot of consumers buying them?
04-08-2008, 10:30 PM
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WOW, i read this entire thread and all i basically learned is how to rip on posts that dont really deserve it.
kinda sux, i was really looking forward to the collected pool of knowledge promised in the first post.
shame
kinda sux, i was really looking forward to the collected pool of knowledge promised in the first post.
shame