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Old 06-22-2011, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
the bottom line is that an SC engine and supporting systems operate at the stress load of a much higher power output than an equivalent turbo engine with the same actual power output, on a Renesis engine this is not a good thing unless you are willing to live with a lower power level than what a turbo engine can provide safely
Except for the side exhaust ports, the turbo back pressure will cause the end plates to swell around the exhaust, and the engine will fail shortly after the exhaust ports are damaged.
Any turbo really needs a bit of porting work for any hope of reliability, due to the extreme back pressure between the exhaust port and the turbo.

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turbos tend to be alot smaller but supercharge give you alot more low end power
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Originally Posted by Rote8
Any turbo really needs a bit of porting work for any hope of reliability, due to the extreme back pressure between the exhaust port and the turbo.
Surely you measured this on several turbo cars and compared it to your exhaust pressure levels, of course, considering similar mass flow

Or you assumed?
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Originally Posted by 999miki
Surely you measured this on several turbo cars and compared it to your exhaust pressure levels, of course, considering similar mass flow

Or you assumed?
Actually, "I" did neither:


Theory on Turbo Renesis failures, by Pettit & Forcefed Racing
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Originally Posted by LBrown8
turbos tend to be alot smaller but supercharge give you alot more low end power

This could be argued...... and it has been....
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Originally Posted by Rote8
Oh, "theory" from people producing supercharger kit

Mismatched combinations doesn´t count. And without comparison on same power level - which on its own will need to be higher in SC engine to drive SC, you are just repeating same BS, same applies to "usable" power of SC engine vs. "laggy" turbo
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Originally Posted by 999miki
Oh, "theory" from people producing supercharger kit

Mismatched combinations doesn´t count. And without comparison on same power level - which on its own will need to be higher in SC engine to drive SC, you are just repeating same BS, same applies to "usable" power of SC engine vs. "laggy" turbo
Actually, Forced Fed Racing is only into Turbos, but you already knew that.

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Actually, Forced Fed Racing is only into Turbos, but you already knew that.

Actually, you can´t prove your claim about extreme back pressure and just repeating same BS on topic, which you don´t even understand
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Originally Posted by 999miki
Actually, you can´t prove your claim about extreme back pressure and just repeating same BS on topic, which you don´t even understand
Why not just enlighten everyone in detail with what is wrong with Pettit's white paper?
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Why not just enlighten everyone in detail with what is wrong with Pettit's white paper?
Its one example of how not to do it. But everyone takes it as gospel against turbocharging Renesis. Surely, turbine restricts flow, but not every turbine and housing combo is same... What cracks me up is that some supercharger guys are acting like their exhaust system doesn´t have any restriction, but every turbocharger surely has "extreme backpressure"
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Originally Posted by 999miki
Its one example of how not to do it. But everyone takes it as gospel against turbocharging Renesis. Surely, turbine restricts flow, but not every turbine and housing combo is same... What cracks me up is that some supercharger guys are acting like their exhaust system doesn´t have any restriction, but every turbocharger surely has "extreme backpressure"
I see where you're coming from. I think if you have a setup, turbo or sc, that is reliable for your circumstances and produces the type of power you want to make than that's really all that matters.
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
I see where you're coming from. I think if you have a setup, turbo or sc, that is reliable for your circumstances and produces the type of power you want to make than that's really all that matters.
Fair enough

I just hate when someone claims something, which isn´t true and even doesn´t know what´s happening... but that´s interwebz
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Thx guys for all ur replies... Some good info and arguments... Made me understand more things, yet more confused on what i shud get. Is there anyone in here that actually have/had a sc or turbo rx8?? Thx!!!!
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Originally Posted by yppan
Thx guys for all ur replies... Some good info and arguments... Made me understand more things, yet more confused on what i shud get. Is there anyone in here that actually have/had a sc or turbo rx8?? Thx!!!!
LOL
Ummmm basically it's a personally choice.
Make one and go for it.

There is no clear cut winner ...... but many will tell there is.

<I have turbo>

And yes there are many members with both.

Go to the Performance section have a look around
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I'm a turbo man myself..... wonder how many members have had the privledge of driving a SC and Turbo'd 8 with nearly the same power levels??
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