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Old 10-24-2004, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hymee
A custom Hymee shift ****. Hmm. there is a thought. I guess it would be smallish. If you machined a flat on it, I suppose I could get some epoxy type "button" logos made to stick on. But I really liked that "engraved" anodized look on the stuff you showed me. But I guess that was the rotor oil cap, which is bigger. Oh well.

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You mean, something like this ......
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Gomez, I think what you show is inked on. What Hymee is talking about is when we anodize a part first then engrave through it to the aluminum. It shows real nicely, especially in black.

I can make the shape so it has a larger radius on top. We can follow the curve with the tool so the engraving is even all over. It takes a bit of extra programing but that is what Dana does best. And I don't have to.

I have a shape roughed out but can't get it on the thread. Maybe I can draw several and you guys could comment.

I'm going to find omicron and ask.
Old 10-24-2004, 04:28 PM
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Yeah - anodized first, then engraved through. It looked mint on that pulley and oil filler cap.

I'm going to get it done on my intercooler housing. Well - not anodized, but have the logo engraved.

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Gomez, I stand corrected, The **** you show is lazer etched. The mill engraving really looks a bunch better. It is not as flexable as to the art though. We have to do a full program, the lazer just requires transfer from their computer. Neat trick that. But they can't get the effect we do.

Hope I can get some pictures up soon.

Ya Hymee, anodizing blocks heat rejection.
As a general rule if it blocks electric flow it blocks heat flow. On top of that you can usually relate the amount by the resistance.

And your car is nice and clean, I hate you.

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RP, what happened to your axial flow supercharger. You looked to be one of the only reliable sources for a quality product. And I have been following your progress on this from the beginning. But there has now been no supercharger news from you for months and it seems that this project has been dropped in favour on anything else. Like this one. To me anyway....

And to use a quote of yours...
Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Now do think I want to wind up getting treated like those E bay venders selling "superchargers"? Notice how many were sold to members of this forum. 000000.
And you guys give them such praise. Didn't someone say they put one on each wheel?
You are only worthy of praise if you deliver. Sorry, but so far you haven't.
Personally I am losing faith...
Old 10-25-2004, 07:22 AM
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Bloody miserable Poms....moving right along.....

Richard, could you post a pic of the filler cap Hymee refers to? Here's a few pics of the Voodoo ***** and the Knobmeisters laser engraving....

I like the ball *****, notice the reduced height compared to the standard Rx-8 one...the bees knees and the way to go, I reckon. Even better with a short throw shifter. Store the original **** away for when I trade the car for a new one...

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Originally Posted by Gomez
Bloody miserable Poms.
Maybe your right. And I'm not having a great day at the moment.
But I'm fed up with people on this forum making idle promises. RP has proved he knows his stuff. No question. And he has done some neat stuff in the past. But his axial flow supercharger project has fallen by the wayside. He even posted pictures of a similiar product not the actual one (if my memory serves me correct) just to keep us quiet. This thread is like deja-vu. I wonder how long it will go on before results happen. If they do?....

We'll see....

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I like the ball *****, notice the reduced height compared to the standard Rx-8 one...
But on a lighter note, I think an '8' ball (black) ball **** for the 8's would be cool...
It could even have an illuminated '8'....
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Tokenbrit, man right in my heart. What happened to British understatement??
My whole life and passion is devoted to the supercharger. I can't begin to tell you how much my life revolves around the thing. Just ask my ex-wife, that was the number one enemy to our marrage. It's just not an easy thing to build. If I were Garrett Airresearch it would be done, but it takes me a little longer.

The shifter is just something to keep the shop running and helping out the group at the same time. If the doors close I can't continue my work that has no income. Just outgo. There is a massive amount of equipment that has no other use to us and brings no money in used for supercharger development. The special tooling alone would knock your socks off.

Prototypes cost many many times what production parts do. This item consumes my whole life, if it didn't I would have given up long ago. What I have put in is not even sane, they should lock me up for my own saftey.

There will be some more news in the near future on the blower. We have the latest one being reworked right now. I can't tell you everything I do as that would be corporate suicide.

Enjoy the diversion of the shifter with me and feel good that the machinery is inplace to build these things. It helps everyone justify $300,000 worth of machinery sitting around. May as well do something with it while you wait.

Gomez, I can't do that as we make that part for someone else. We could steal the idea but we don't do those things. I'll ask if I can do something with them. It might not even fit the 8. If it doesn't then I could legitamently build them for the 8, couldn't I??
Is the 8 oil cap unique?

As to the **** hight I'm kicking around the idea of making a **** that is longer then stock but has the thread counter bored to wind up the hight as stock. we could even make the thread on the shifter longer to give a lot of adjustment to the user. That is the best idea yet as it can be designed in at this point for free. It might be a good selling point. What do you think of that???

Hey, I like that 8 ball idea. I'd make a run of those but not with lights.

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In my own defense, I have superchargers if you want one just call. What I don't have is it installed on the Rx8. But has anyone else done it? And they arent developing the blower, just buying it. So there.

Hey, what about an 8 ball oil cap????????
I'm gonna make one of those today, just for kicks.

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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
In my own defense, I have superchargers if you want one just call. ....
Axial superchargers?
Old 10-25-2004, 10:36 AM
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I'd like to see the short shifter, but what I'd really like first are those udnerbody braces that got mentioned a while back :D
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Originally Posted by Rasputin
Axial superchargers?
you might read this thread, https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...+superchargers

you might want to start now i started at ~2am and didnt get finished till after sun up.

great reading.

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I never did hear a report from cortc after driving around with them. Did they make a significant improvement?

jds

Originally Posted by Genom
I'd like to see the short shifter, but what I'd really like first are those udnerbody braces that got mentioned a while back :D
Old 10-25-2004, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
My whole life and passion is devoted to the supercharger. I can't begin to tell you how much my life revolves around the thing. Just ask my ex-wife, that was the number one enemy to our marrage. It's just not an easy thing to build. If I were Garrett Airresearch it would be done, but it takes me a little longer.
I offer my apologies. Maybe I was a little strong (and over-reacted a bit). I just felt that the extended absence of any new info. was a little suspicious. I would love to have your job. I would never sleep. Finding out the best way to do things. The trouble is, I'm a bit of a perfectionist. But you give me that impression too.

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There will be some more news in the near future on the blower. We have the latest one being reworked right now. I can't tell you everything I do as that would be corporate suicide.
That's good news. Do you have one in an 8 yet?? How does it sound? I know you can't give too much away at the moment because of other people developing similiar products, but as much as you can share would be welcomed by a lot of people here.

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Enjoy the diversion of the shifter with me and feel good that the machinery is inplace to build these things. It helps everyone justify $300,000 worth of machinery sitting around. May as well do something with it while you wait.
From checking out the quality of the stuff you have produced, I am sure it will be a top-notch piece of kit. Hey, you might even have a customer with me. And as long as this is only a diversion, I will be a 'happy bunny'.

And

Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Hey, I like that 8 ball idea. I'd make a run of those but not with lights.
I don't think the '8' ball would look right with lights anyhow??... I do like my lighted shift **** tho...

Thanks for tolerating my interruption.

Now back to thread...
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No lights? How else are you supposed to read the little prophecy?? :D

Originally Posted by tokenbrit
I don't think the '8' ball would look right with lights anyhow??... I do like my lighted shift **** tho...

Thanks for tolerating my interruption.

Now back to thread...
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
Gomez, I can't do that as we make that part for someone else. We could steal the idea but we don't do those things. I'll ask if I can do something with them. It might not even fit the 8. If it doesn't then I could legitamently build them for the 8, couldn't I??
Is the 8 oil cap unique?

As to the **** hight I'm kicking around the idea of making a **** that is longer then stock but has the thread counter bored to wind up the hight as stock. we could even make the thread on the shifter longer to give a lot of adjustment to the user. That is the best idea yet as it can be designed in at this point for free. It might be a good selling point. What do you think of that???
Richard, sorry, I'm not interested in the oil cap.....I'd just like to see an example of your engraving. Even an engraved anodised dog bowl! (BTW, I don't think there is any money in Rotary oil caps, there's half a dozen types being marketed on Ebay...)

I've got my heart set on a round ****, but what you're proposing will appeal to others, I'm sure.

Regards, Gomez.

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News: While I'm not yet back in town I did see a prototype shifter. Looks like they could be ready in two weeks if the nylon parts don't hold us up. When I get home I;ll photo a shaft and post it.

BTW can I get an opinion on the small bend at the top of the shift arm. Will it be desirable to retain this considering the throwwill be 27% shorter?

I'm still not at a computer on a steady basis but give me your thoughts anyway. I'll pick them up as soon as I can. Just don't wait around for a response.

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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
News: While I'm not yet back in town I did see a prototype shifter. Looks like they could be ready in two weeks if the nylon parts don't hold us up. When I get home I;ll photo a shaft and post it.

BTW can I get an opinion on the small bend at the top of the shift arm. Will it be desirable to retain this considering the throwwill be 27% shorter?

I'm still not at a computer on a steady basis but give me your thoughts anyway. I'll pick them up as soon as I can. Just don't wait around for a response.

Richard
Richard,

The bend in the upper part of the shift arm is there so the shifter sits perfectly upright when in neutral. It's purely cosmetic.
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got a question about the short throw shifer, so i see in the 2nd pic on the first page showing the shifters with the brass bushings. so to make it shorter do they have bigger diameter bushing on the shaft .thanks for any info
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Originally Posted by RX8MAN04
got a question about the short throw shifer, so i see in the 2nd pic on the first page showing the shifters with the brass bushings. so to make it shorter do they have bigger diameter bushing on the shaft .thanks for any info
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No, the shifter is completely re-engineered. Think of a teeter totter....Move the pivot point towards one end and it only takes a small movement pushing down on the short end to effect a large movement at the other. That is the principle we are dealing with here. Richard will effectively raise the pivot on the shifter housing so a smaller amount of movement is required to engage gear when shifting.

The brass bushing is something that will affect the "feel" of the shift....firm it up, if you want to put it that way.

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Old 11-13-2004, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
BTW can I get an opinion on the small bend at the top of the shift arm. Will it be desirable to retain this considering the throw will be 27% shorter?

Richard
27%....Great! Richard, I assume Mazda engineered the bend to allow increased clearance between your hand and the ashtray lid when shifting.....I'll have to pull my car apart and check...

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Richard, or anyone else knowledgable about these kind of things, will installing a short throw shifter wear out your transimission faster? This may seem like a stupid question because if it did, why would people make them? I ask this because I have read on other forums that they can be bad on transmissions. Maybe it's depends on the design of the shifter? Any answers are greatly appreciated.
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No, philodox is right, the bend is engineered to enable the shifter to sit upright when in neutral. I think it's a feature that's worthwhile keeping. Here are the pics....I have taken pics with neutral, first and fifth gear selected....side on shot show first selected, no clearance issues.

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Originally Posted by Gomez
No, philodox is right, the bend is engineered to enable the shifter to sit upright when in neutral. I think it's a feature that's worthwhile keeping. Here are the pics....I have taken pics with neutral, first and fifth gear selected....side on shot show first selected, no clearance issues.

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Wow, I finally got one right

And to the question about a short throw shifter wearing out your transmission faster.. that's not true in the least bit. Operator error is the only way you're going to wear our that transmission while shifting.. i.e. grinding, riding the clutch, tach'ing 9k and dropping the clutch.. that sort of stuff..
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Rp this is a personal request to every 1 here who has never tried this style of shift "****"

There horrifcaly ugly, Yes. But once you get on them its like the first time you masterbated AWESOME. Im going to purchase one from there. BUt if you could make the same style but with Rx-8 ingraved in that fancy script style polak uses and not chromed i would certainly repurchase 1 from you.
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