Racing Beat REVi Intake System
04-01-2005, 07:00 PM
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oh great ANOTHER must have part!
I have to admit it's the only one I have seen that is better than my homemade version. One thing good about mine is that I will already have the cold air pipe available.
question: does the filter have to be replaced or is it lifetime?
Are they delivering yet?
I really like the company and people there. Done nothing but good by me and they are honest.
rare quality now a days.
olddragger
I have to admit it's the only one I have seen that is better than my homemade version. One thing good about mine is that I will already have the cold air pipe available.
question: does the filter have to be replaced or is it lifetime?
Are they delivering yet?
I really like the company and people there. Done nothing but good by me and they are honest.
rare quality now a days.
olddragger
04-01-2005, 10:25 PM
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I'm not sure what your point is here. You're complaining that RG used a "respected" vendor's own images to prove that they were doing something wrong? The bastard! I notice you didn't address the technical merits of the argument at all. Oh wait, they were an advertiser. Never mind I get it. 
Originally Posted by dDuB
I decide to actually read your post and what do I find? You making *** stupid assumptions again and acting like you're the only intelligent person in the world *sigh*
It's also funny coming from someone who was formerly WARNED on rx7club for doing **** like this. Rotarygod stole images from a very established, well known and well respected engine builder's website and used them as examples of "how not to port" on rx7club. It was very blatent who he was talking about and even in a former thread, before it was deleted/cleaned up, he attacked the person by naming them and saying how bad of a job this is. Not only is this person very well known and respected in the rotary community but he was also an advertiser of rx7club. Now I realize I'm actually doing something similar right now to Racing Beat, but the difference is rotarygod did this in multiple threads, stole images from an owner, badmouthed him, and gave no real fact other than his "beliefs."
Anyways, what makes you so sure I'm uneducated or that you are in fact "educated" sir? Is it because I'm younger than you? Because you act like you have the mentality that "older makes you wiser." And who said I was cheap? Yes lots of 2nd gen owners are cheap and poor, but do you even have any idea how much I've spent on my 2nd gen? Or how much time and effort (and money) I've put into it? No, you're just making an assumption because I don't think the expensive RB crap is worth it. That doesn't have much to do with price except for the fact I think the ingenuity, gains, and price do not all coincide.
You can also take your misconceptions and stereotyping and shove them.
It's also funny coming from someone who was formerly WARNED on rx7club for doing **** like this. Rotarygod stole images from a very established, well known and well respected engine builder's website and used them as examples of "how not to port" on rx7club. It was very blatent who he was talking about and even in a former thread, before it was deleted/cleaned up, he attacked the person by naming them and saying how bad of a job this is. Not only is this person very well known and respected in the rotary community but he was also an advertiser of rx7club. Now I realize I'm actually doing something similar right now to Racing Beat, but the difference is rotarygod did this in multiple threads, stole images from an owner, badmouthed him, and gave no real fact other than his "beliefs."
Anyways, what makes you so sure I'm uneducated or that you are in fact "educated" sir? Is it because I'm younger than you? Because you act like you have the mentality that "older makes you wiser." And who said I was cheap? Yes lots of 2nd gen owners are cheap and poor, but do you even have any idea how much I've spent on my 2nd gen? Or how much time and effort (and money) I've put into it? No, you're just making an assumption because I don't think the expensive RB crap is worth it. That doesn't have much to do with price except for the fact I think the ingenuity, gains, and price do not all coincide.
You can also take your misconceptions and stereotyping and shove them.
04-01-2005, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bureau13
I'm not sure what your point is here. You're complaining that RG used a "respected" vendor's own images to prove that they were doing something wrong? The bastard! I notice you didn't address the technical merits of the argument at all. Oh wait, they were an advertiser. Never mind I get it.
04-01-2005, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Rotarygod stole images from a very established, well known and well respected engine builder's website and used them as examples of "how not to port" on rx7club. It was very blatent who he was talking about and even in a former thread, before it was deleted/cleaned up, he attacked the person by naming them and saying how bad of a job this is. Not only is this person very well known and respected in the rotary community but he was also an advertiser of rx7club.
Actually I never stole any images and posted them to the RX-7 forum as they were not copy protected nor were there any statements on that website anywhere that said images couldn't be used. Therefore they could. His website still doesn't have any such statements. This is a highly different story being "made up" to make me look bad by one person. Those pictures had actually been posted on the forum before with no comments made about them. I was also never warned on the forum by any moderators. I'll probably be banned right now by "name withheld (see above)" just out of spite but I'll be back on there under another name anyways. I've done that porting style years ago and found it not to work unless many other things were done first. These are not the claims made by this "company".
Secondly, it's the wrong way to do things that I point out to people. I never mentioned his or his one man "company" name anywhere. He jumped in and admitted it himself! Not my doing. If he had stayed out of it, no one would have known. The only person who knew was a friend of his who recognized his work. Just because someone is respected doesn't mean they are good. Skill with a die grinder doesn't make you skilled at airflow. What makes him so respected? If I give myself some made up "company" name, make a website for myself with this newly created company name, and pay a few bucks for advertising on some internet based forum, will that make me respected in the eyes of a consumer? That's apparently the standard. How does the name "Rotary Insurrection" sound? It could work! So what that he advertises on a forum? If a person is willing to pay for it, the forum really doesn't care who it is as long as it's relevant to the vehicle. It's money. That's business. Newspapers will let anyone advertise too.
FWIW: A member of the RX-7 forum dyno'd his car that just had this new "wrong way to do it" port job. I won't mention his name either but he knows that other things should have been done first and has no issues with me. He dyno'd at 167 rwhp. Constrast that to another member who modded his car properly and on a completely stock engine did 187 rwhp with a flatter powerband and more average power. I rest my case. Like I said in my last post, it's only the dishonest, nontesting people that don't like me! They never fail to expose themselves. Why am I hated for telling the truth?
OK Charlie, I'm done now.
Back to the topic at hand, this intake rocks! Buy it. The sound is awesome and so is the quality.
04-02-2005, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
..a flatter powerband and more average power...
May the flow be with you
04-02-2005, 12:31 AM
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I wonder how the stock intake would work with no filter. I mean, there are 2 screens in there and I've seen plenty of high powered (still street driven) turbo guys use screens only and no filter, so I wonder how that would work/perform. I also wonder what kind of gain that'd provide. Not that I'm going to do it, just curious.
04-02-2005, 12:50 AM
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Probably, but this is why I asked. I've seen it done time and time again on high powered (still street driven) turbo or heavily ported cars (just using screens). Always wondered how safe or unsafe it was. I figure if it is safe, cheap/easy intake upgrade until I finish building/testing mine.
04-02-2005, 02:24 AM
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I want more info...Com'on..
Show me the MONEY!!!! :D
Looks something special..Not like all the other intake systems...
Maybe good impressions from the buyers and a good dyno sheet make me buy that unit...
Show me the MONEY!!!! :D
Looks something special..Not like all the other intake systems...
Maybe good impressions from the buyers and a good dyno sheet make me buy that unit...
04-02-2005, 04:41 AM
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Guess what?
It's 1:30 PM and I finnished my installation.
Tools needed:
Short Phillips screw driver
10 mm box end wrench
10 mm socket and wratchet
Small srew driver....... Jewlers
Needle nose plyiers
Flashlight
Other options: Oil and Radiator screens, Clear corners
It's 1:30 PM and I finnished my installation.
Tools needed:
Short Phillips screw driver
10 mm box end wrench
10 mm socket and wratchet
Small srew driver....... Jewlers
Needle nose plyiers
Flashlight
Other options: Oil and Radiator screens, Clear corners
04-02-2005, 04:46 AM
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if you compare the RB intake to the re-amemiya one they are almost identical.
http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/new_part...ntake_box.html
they both use a cone style filter and drop the VFAD stuff in front. the air-box volumes are similar but 100-500ml more here or there isn't that noticeable, but might make a difference.
it looks like they both needed to increase the length of the intake between the filter and the throttle-body to get the tuning right. maybe this is a result of loosing the extra intake length of the VFAD duct.
one obvious difference is the re-amemiya intake has a fresh-air duct replacing the VFAD where as the RB design seems to draw on air behind the bumper like the std intake. Wildcard's home intake mod seems to show the std intake location isn't the best and a fresh air duct can lower intake temps by around 7deg C on a hot day. this makes me wonder why RB didn't include a fresh air duct?
http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/new_part...ntake_box.html
they both use a cone style filter and drop the VFAD stuff in front. the air-box volumes are similar but 100-500ml more here or there isn't that noticeable, but might make a difference.
it looks like they both needed to increase the length of the intake between the filter and the throttle-body to get the tuning right. maybe this is a result of loosing the extra intake length of the VFAD duct.
one obvious difference is the re-amemiya intake has a fresh-air duct replacing the VFAD where as the RB design seems to draw on air behind the bumper like the std intake. Wildcard's home intake mod seems to show the std intake location isn't the best and a fresh air duct can lower intake temps by around 7deg C on a hot day. this makes me wonder why RB didn't include a fresh air duct?
04-02-2005, 05:04 AM
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Well, first thing I noticed was a rapid drop in the RPM after a slight warm up.
2nd thing I noticed was the sound. Then there was the idle. The RB intake did something.
My car has always idled at 1050. Now it's 950.
I looked at my shifter. Oh my GOD! I've been blessed. NO shaking.
I back her out of the garage. Take off slowly. Ah... what the Hell, I can always accelerate fast and hard later. Let's she what she can do. Drive slowly to the next stop sign. (after all isn't this what you really want to see? How she performs under normal driving. Yes that might be better. That way my opinon won't be skewed by the butt dyno) I continue to drive slow shifting well under 4 grand.
I still have the M flash.
She feels much smoother. I accelerate and she feels much quicker on the low end. Stop light. Freeway here. I push her on the ramp put her into sixth....
What's this? ? ? It's smoother. I can acelerate in sixth and it feels like fifth.
Ok, let's try this again. Yup, she's got power in sixth, not to mention the low end torque.
I go down the chicanes by the golf course. All I feel is power in the higher gears at slow speed.
Let's try this thing one more time around the block.
2nd thing I noticed was the sound. Then there was the idle. The RB intake did something.
My car has always idled at 1050. Now it's 950.
I looked at my shifter. Oh my GOD! I've been blessed. NO shaking.
I back her out of the garage. Take off slowly. Ah... what the Hell, I can always accelerate fast and hard later. Let's she what she can do. Drive slowly to the next stop sign. (after all isn't this what you really want to see? How she performs under normal driving. Yes that might be better. That way my opinon won't be skewed by the butt dyno) I continue to drive slow shifting well under 4 grand.
I still have the M flash.
She feels much smoother. I accelerate and she feels much quicker on the low end. Stop light. Freeway here. I push her on the ramp put her into sixth....
What's this? ? ? It's smoother. I can acelerate in sixth and it feels like fifth.
Ok, let's try this again. Yup, she's got power in sixth, not to mention the low end torque.
I go down the chicanes by the golf course. All I feel is power in the higher gears at slow speed.
Let's try this thing one more time around the block.
Last edited by Razz1; 04-02-2005 at 05:19 AM.
04-02-2005, 05:17 AM
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I push down the straight... beep! Pusher again in the next gear. Stop light.
On ramp, here we go Zoom.. Zoom.
Man does she pull hard... Off ramp.. Hello officer. How are you?
I turn around and go back the way I came. On ramp, off ramp.
She's nice. Can't wait to check the gas milage. Can't wait to push her at redline in all gears and make that noise. Ah... I got the track event coming up in 2 weeks. How sweet life is.
Time to go to bed.
Do you think she'll be the same tommorrow?
There's only one problem..........
I have to learn how to shift faster as she hits redline much sooner.
On ramp, here we go Zoom.. Zoom.
Man does she pull hard... Off ramp.. Hello officer. How are you?
I turn around and go back the way I came. On ramp, off ramp.
She's nice. Can't wait to check the gas milage. Can't wait to push her at redline in all gears and make that noise. Ah... I got the track event coming up in 2 weeks. How sweet life is.
Time to go to bed.
Do you think she'll be the same tommorrow?
There's only one problem..........
I have to learn how to shift faster as she hits redline much sooner.
Last edited by Razz1; 04-02-2005 at 05:22 AM.
04-02-2005, 08:08 AM
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Well, I wasn't taking anyone's word for anything...you just didn't address whether there was technical merit to his arguments or not, and seemed most put out that he dared to criticize a paying vendor on your forum.
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Originally Posted by dDuB
Who said he was doing ANYTHING wrong? You're just taking rotarygod's word for it. There are plenty of other rotary engine builders and porters out there that have said the exact same port is fine. Only person I've ever seen complain about it is him.
Last edited by bureau13; 04-02-2005 at 08:16 AM.
04-02-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
I push down the straight... beep! Pusher again in the next gear. Stop light.
On ramp, here we go Zoom.. Zoom.
Man does she pull hard... Off ramp.. Hello officer. How are you?
I turn around and go back the way I came. On ramp, off ramp.
She's nice. Can't wait to check the gas milage. Can't wait to push her at redline in all gears and make that noise. Ah... I got the track event coming up in 2 weeks. How sweet life is.
Time to go to bed.
Do you think she'll be the same tommorrow?
There's only one problem..........
I have to learn how to shift faster as she hits redline much sooner.
On ramp, here we go Zoom.. Zoom.
Man does she pull hard... Off ramp.. Hello officer. How are you?
I turn around and go back the way I came. On ramp, off ramp.
She's nice. Can't wait to check the gas milage. Can't wait to push her at redline in all gears and make that noise. Ah... I got the track event coming up in 2 weeks. How sweet life is.
Time to go to bed.
Do you think she'll be the same tommorrow?
There's only one problem..........
I have to learn how to shift faster as she hits redline much sooner.
i was telling someone yesterday- there is a stretch near my house that i know i can usually get to 60mph by a certain point when i have to let off because of a school zone comign up. well when i was out for a drive 2 days ago i got to 68mph at that point. maybe i was pushing harder because i was testing the intake but i was real suprised as i lifted and looked at the speedo
04-02-2005, 01:31 PM
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damn you all..i knew i shouldn't of read this post...now i really really want on...and woudln't you know it i didnt 'win the mega millions, so i'm still poor
haha oh well......must resiste temptation...must save money fo rawsome intake.
haha oh well......must resiste temptation...must save money fo rawsome intake.
04-02-2005, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Well, first thing I noticed was a rapid drop in the RPM after a slight warm up.
2nd thing I noticed was the sound. Then there was the idle. The RB intake did something.
My car has always idled at 1050. Now it's 950.
2nd thing I noticed was the sound. Then there was the idle. The RB intake did something.
My car has always idled at 1050. Now it's 950.
04-02-2005, 05:49 PM
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RotaryGod, will I be able to install this for my auto 8? How bad is this going to affect the car. I dont care if I dont get any hp gain I just want to have it!!!
