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Pure oxygen instead of Nitrous

Old Nov 25, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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As for nitrous.. it's not 40% O2, it's 100% N2O - the heat of combustion breaks apart the N2O molecule and frees up nitrogen and oxygen. N2O itself is pretty much inert at ambient temps.

The biggest danger with using nitrous on the street (besides the go really fast factor) is that the bottle is pressurized to like 1000psi... If the emergency valve were to fail for any reason, and the bottle overheats, that would be a very large boom (I saw pics once of a half a car and a quarter of the garage... gone). This is however a very rare occurrence and requires a large amount of user error... One could argue it's more of Darwinism at work.

A more efficient way of using pure O2 would be to strap a couple booster rockets to the back of your car. The results would be quite similar, though....
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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^ it was for my bio class, although I throughroughly enjoyed watching small rodents bleed to death........

and yes, most dangers involving nitrous can be avoided by being very very careful.........

most of the explosions and stuff you see is mostly user error, unless ofcourse you get a defective valve of some sort...........which is why there is a shitload of equipment like safety blow down tube, purge kits, etc etc to make sure u don't blow up ur car...............

but then again, NOS is gonna blow up ur car right? don't tell me otherwise.........blah blah...........I'll let CRH deal with that XD
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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As stolen from Wikipedia:

When nitrous oxide decomposes, a single mole will release 1/3 mole of oxygen gas, allowing an oxygen saturation of 33% to be reached.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
33, 40, whatever it takes.

Thanks, LW025.
No prob
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CnnmnSchnpps
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The biggest danger with using nitrous on the street (besides the go really fast factor) is that the bottle is pressurized to like 1000psi... If the emergency valve were to fail for any reason, and the bottle overheats, that would be a very large boom ....
Try putting the bottle in a 5 gallon bucket of creme. It won't stop it from exploding but at least you'll provide dessert for the rescue workers.

About 25 years ago a Hot Rod/Tire store in Durham NC caught on fire. Sitting on top of drum of race fuel were a few Nitrous bottles. They didn't ignite but the heat had swollen the fuel barrel and the Nitrous was purging from the overpressure valve. A fireman hosed down the barrel and grabbed the nitrous bottles and tossed them outside. He was interviewed later on the news and said it was the dumbest thing he ever did. He should have just let the building burn.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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33% < 37%; so still think 37% is the best you can get civilian side without major drama.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Pure Aviators O2 will sure cure one hell of a hangover!

--hides his 02 Walkaround bottle--
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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how about u just use natural air compressed at about 15pounds of boost into your engine? its about 20% O2 anyways

oh wait! thats what a turbo/supercharger does!

how stupid of me
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Exclamation Nitro vs Nitrous

Originally Posted by knightrider72
N2O is illegal here in cyprus.The only time they allow to refill the bottles is when there is an official Drag race and you must have prove that you actually race to be able to refill the bottle.I mean is ok to buy the kit but without be able to refill the bottle is useless.As i said a few locals here refill it with oxygen but i dont know if they use the same amount of spray like nitro.They actually say that the results are about the same as nitro.I will ask them and keep you inform how they do it.

Um, I hope this is a mis-type:
Nitro- as in Nitroglycerin / C3H5(NO3)3 Explosive used to make things go boom, BIG boom.
Homeland Security would not like you for trying to run this in in your car.(Especially near government buildings)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin

Nitro- as in Nitro-Methane / CH3NO2 Top Fuel NHRA = Illegal on the street; special handling and a gas mask required!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitromethane

Nitrous- As in Nitrous-Oxide / N2O Dentists use it, welders use it, this is the go fast gas you should fill the "Nitrous kit" with.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide

I am not surprised you were told "Nitro is illegal"; the first example is much more illegal than the second
ASK FOR NITROUS

I hope you did not need this, and were using Nitrous.

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tajabaho1
anyone know whether nitrous is illegal in CA?
Technically it is "for off road use only." It plays havoc with your emissions & is not legal for street use.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lone_wolf025
As stolen from Wikipedia:

When nitrous oxide decomposes, a single mole will release 1/3 mole of oxygen gas, allowing an oxygen saturation of 33% to be reached.
One third mole of oxygen gas isn't going to equal 33%

Molecular Weights (amu)

Nitrogen: 14.0067
Oxygen: 15.9994

Nitrous oxide=(14.0067x2)+15.9994 = 44.0128 = one mole of nitrous oxide

So, when nitrous oxide deteriorates, it would decompose to = 15.9994/44.0128 = 36.4% by weight.

Since mass can neither be created nor destroyed, I'm not too sure how the number 33% is reached.

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