YuppY

AFAIK it is priced $800. Plus $169 for Tactrix OpenPort 2.0.

TeamRX8

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apparently otakurx made some good progress on the ECUEdit stuff, I haven't spoken to him in a while

reddozen

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Yea, I think I emailed him, but he never got back with me... I may have to poke him again. I did get a response from the openPort guys. They're passing on my offer to work on a mobile(arm)/x86 linux driver to the owner supposedly... not sure how much I believe them, but it would be nice.

vansickey

Harrisons flasher is only $240 and as far as I know, RomRaider is still free

petbeemer

I think if i was to pay for a programme i would like a more friendly user interface rather than have to work the maps out myself, as that's how it seems

vansickey

There are people to help figure the maps out if you need help. It's not as hard as you might think, but it does require a bit more thought than, point, click, pay at this window. Chances are, if you have an 04 or 05 those definitions are already done and subsequent years only get easier to figure out!

The main plus I see with the AP is the ability to change premade maps on the go. But if I recall, customizing your own maps are expensive, aren't they? Maybe I am off, but isn't the AP about 800 plus another 1500 for the tuning software?

TeamRX8

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for 2004 - 2008 USD manual cars (not sure about auto trans) it's just the cost of the Cobb AP ($495 new, $300 - $400 used) and the Racetuner software is free. The Pro software that allows tuning and locking programs for resale on multi vehicles was about $1500 or so, but it seems that this option may have been bought out by MazdaManiac since he claims to be the sole distributor of the Cobb AP for the RX-8 now. Only more reason to now get this out on open access.

reddozen

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I agree Team... it should be easier to tune cars, or to get the tools to access the ECU. Personally I think that you should be able to get everything you need for around $100 tops. Software, and an OBD2 dongle. Ideally, I'd like to be able to use smart phones in the same capacity as the access port.

MazdaManiac

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Claims?
http://www.cobbtuning.com/info/?id=5538

So, you are admitting at this point that it is just about some sort of weird campaign on your part?

The AP with the Race Tuner is still the least expensive, easiest to use and most comprehensive of the tuning options.

When it looked like the AccessPORT was going away, I invested in all the available options (MazdaEdit, Harrison, etc.) and even at my experience level the amount of work to get a viable calibration with those packages was daunting. Hymee's software is really the best alternative if an AP with Race Tuner is not palatable to some.

petbeemer

Working the maps out really isn't the problem, if you had read my first post i stated i had already had a hand in the openecu project and made a completely mapable ecu for the evo on my own which is widely used worldwide now, but lets get things into perspective here, i realise how much effort is needed to write out a definition file for any of the above software to be able to flash a custom map, but........how many people are actually going to want to map their own car?......not many usually, what sort of gains can be had from mapping the REX.....again not much i doubt, it would be worthwhile only if there is evidence to show that the gains are actually there in the first place otherwise your spending a lot of hours hard work for not much in gains.
Lets see the map'd car's results over a stock motor before even going down this route?

TeamRX8

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I don't go around validating everything you post here, hence my choice of words, but thanks for making it clear. Also, I have been pursuing this subject long before anyone had even heard of Cobb Tuning looking at the RX-8 application. I have no campaign against you other than the fact that as a vendor you still owe people turbo kits 2+ years later. They are clearly on the back burner as compared to pursuing licensing agreements and all the other stuff you partake in. I otherwise have never had anything personal against you, not now or ever. If I had, I never would have provided you two good rotor housings including shipping for free out of my own pocket when someone else was willing to pay $500 for them.

So I ask you, what have you ever done for me and what have I ever done for you? Not that it matters. I never asked for or needed anything from you, but I gave willingly to help you out just the same. I don't feel any differently now on a personal level. However, WRT your vendor status I still strongly believe you need to put all the lame BS excuses to bed and get these kits completed and to their rightful owners asap. As I consider you a friend and always have I make no bones about speaking honestly to you. I may be wrong in doing so at times and am always open to considering that I am wrong. If you honestly believe I have a campaign against you, dislike you on a personal level, or whatever else then you are wrong.

I am as equally open about going hand to hand with you on the forum as I am open to going heart to heart with you off the forum if you would rather discuss it there instead.

zoom44

it's $950(quoted to me yesterday) and the OpenPort 2.0 is $169

zoom44

p.s. that's not locked to any vin etc . you dont need a "vin token" or the like to tune more than one car.

zoom44

Totally agree that having more options in the tool box is for the better. any of us, that have been pursuing options for tuning from the get go, i believe would rather have more than one option available.

MazdaManiac

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There are, as of this moment, 5 viable flash-tune systems that are effective.

The problem is that most of them are not terribly intuitive to operate which is a double-whammy since tuning the RX-8 isn't very intuitive to begin with.

vansickey

What is accessible in the racetuner package?

If that allows tuning of all your maps and float values that doesn't sound like too bad of a deal at 500 and no extra work, it would have saved me quite a few hours of hunting maps.

Also, someone mentions gains... Well nobody would be tuning if the potential for gains weren't there, so I guess the gains are gonna be dependent on your setup and quality of tune. Personally, I've reduced the slight stumble on the APV opening and increased the torque in the overly rich stock upper rpm range as well as raised my average MPG among other things that add to my driving pleasure.
Also, I kept looking for the Hymee setup in the past but it wasn't out yet, is it out now? Price?
Personally I was hoping for more support and involvement with open source information as well as a tuning community of sharing and research and development, this thread is label ecu cracking isn't it?

Which maps are people tuning? I ask because they may be maps that are already known and/or easy to locate.

I am not a programmer or have any affiliation with the industry but I would gladly help out anyone who is interested as I am in tuning there car with non-monopolized tools in a collaborative effort.

And, I am not sure what's not intuitive about tuning the RX... can you elaborate MM?

vansickey

Back to cracking the ECU
Any one have any values or addresses on the a couple of items of interest:
Detonation Thresholds
Retard Tables
Idle Timing
DBW Tables
Thanks

Anyone able to add launch control or no-lift-shift yet?

vansickey

I apologize, maybe I should have offered directly, in a community of RX8 owners, I as well as others (I hope) would gladly help you work out those maps for you if you decide to go down that road.
As far as the friendly interface, I like RomRaider. It runs in java, has color variation of values, 3-D displays, and the ease of definition building, and a large community of users, which is fine for me, but there are several other software packages to choose from for tuning to suit your own taste.

reddozen

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I've got the SAE J2534 standards... I'm going to attempt to make some linux drivers... we'll see how it works out. I may work on a win/nix multi-compatible source, but that adds some complexity, so we'll see.

Brettus

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Kinda .....
Managed to tune throttle maps (in my turbo 8)such that I can just push pedal to the floor 1st and 2nd gear and get max. acceleration with nil wheelspin.


Not really a big deal unless you run more than about 7psi of boost but it makes a huge difference to launching if you are running 10-11 .

drifthappens

linux drivers would be nice. but we also need tuning software to work in linux (is there one, i havent looked yet, i've been playing on windows lately due to work)

reddozen

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I can work on it after I get the other stuff done. There's no reason I couldn't interface with something like Open Office for tables etc. Who knows... I'll look into once I get the other stuff working. That alone will take some time.

drifthappens

Sounds like a plan. I'll get back on my linux box and update everything (its been MOOOONTHS).

reddozen

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my main goal is android, webos and iphones, but iphones will be a little more of a workaround since they go out of their way to make basic linux aps work... we'll see how it goes, but there's no reason cant make it work for a linux CP too.

drifthappens

Yeah, android would be ideal anyway (i have my aria running torque set up in the car all the time anyway), but even still, editing maps on a PC would be way easier than a small touchscreen. Modify the map, push it to phone, push it to ecu. Word.

edit: Ubuntu One for easy pushing! TO THE CLOUD! (works on windows and linux, android, iphone, and i think blackberry)