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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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What am I doing wrong with Zaino application?

Past two weekends, I have so far :
1. Used the clay and Z7/Water mix remove impurities.
2. Used Z7 to clean the car
3. After drying, used mix of ZFX abd Z5 as first coat.
4. Few hours later, did a second coat of ZFX and Z5 mix.
5. Few hours later, used Z6

Following weekend :
1. Wash the car with Z7
2. After drying, used ZFX and Z2 mix to coat the car
3. Few hours later, 2nd coat of ZFX and Z2 was applied
4. Few hours later, Z6 to finsh it off

Yesterday,
I washed the car again and applied ZFX/Z2 and Z6 one more time.

Today, I still see fine lines on the spoiler, trunk and hood which was there when I first picked up the car from dealer.

What am I doing wrong? The sun finally came out today and even though it isn't very noticable, it is irratating the heck out of me.

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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Can you post pictures of your car?
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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What are you using to wash your car with? what type of towels? What type of applicator?
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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Are you sure the lines are in your clear and not your base coat? Possibly a defect in the paint from the factory?
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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After removal of Zaino Z-2 PRO or Z-5. You should wait 24 hours if the outside temperature is under 70 degrees and 6 hours if over 70 degrees, before applying the next coat of Z-5 or Z-2 PRO.
Maybe that's it?

Also suggests using ZPC if three coats of Z5 doesn't do.


Could be towels like staticlag says too.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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I purchased one of those gloves that they sell in R&S Strauss. It is not the cotton kind, but I only use that just to gently wipe the surface of the paint.

The fine lines were there before I put on the Zaino product. I was hoping that Zaino's product would remedy the problem.

I am beginning to believe King8's theory. I remember amb. temperature display in the car were around 35-39 on all 3 days. I remember seeing only few hours of sun also.

With that said, do I now need to Dawn the car again and spend almost 3 hours going every inch of the car with the clay bar?

SIGH!!!!!!!!

Nedor

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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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No you don't need to re-dawn or clay bar.

You could be very well adding in more swirls just from that glove. Mr. Zaino recommends 100% cotton, made in the US towels only. Microfiber can be used, but he says since the quality varies so much on them, it's best to use only cotton.

Check out the site. All the info is there. Although, some of it's a little jarbled.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kings8
No you don't need to re-dawn or clay bar.

You could be very well adding in more swirls just from that glove. Mr. Zaino recommends 100% cotton, made in the US towels only. Microfiber can be used, but he says since the quality varies so much on them, it's best to use only cotton.

Check out the site. All the info is there. Although, some of it's a little jarbled.
I just checked and the material is made of Microfiber.

I also took pictures with 5 meg pixel camera but the camera can't seem to pickup the fine line. Is there trick to this?

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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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I use to use sythetic chamois. However, a soft and clean terry towel 100% cotton in my opinion gave the best result. After washing and polishing... I hand wash the towel in liquid wool wash solution. Eccentric??? Nahhh... at least the finish remains swirl free. I also do a section of panel at a time each time after I wash the car Z5,Z2 and Z6. It is the best polish I have ever used.

Also, I have a different bucket and sponge to wash the wheels with. I also buy the cheapest sponge to do the body and chuck it out once I notice it is worn out or if I drop it on the ground. Sponges are cheap... I normally buy a bundle of 3 for $2. Lambswool mittens are recommend also it does a good job (Meguiars)... you can at least feel the curves on the car BUT it is pricey! Sponges gives the same result.

If you wanna get rid of those deepish scratch marks from your paint, provided it hasn't penetrated into the undercoat..., you can get yourself the finest grade sandpaper and use water or carwash detergent to lubricate the rubbing motion. Don't rub too hard... keep examining until the scratch is completely gone. Use Z5 x 5 coats followed by z2 x 5 coats and z6 to be used after each successive coats of z5 & z2. I've done this method... and will continue to do so if I have a scratch mark on my panel(s). JUST BE GENTLE and keep examining. Those abrasive polish often leave a swirl marks or when using a rotary tool it often takes off more than it needs to. Finest grade sandpaper gives you control... without leaving more swirl marks. Ohhhh.... don't use a circular motion... up/down or side2side... against the scratch. Hope this helps... JUST BE GENTLE is what I am stressing out.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Astro, your first two paragraphs are almost the exact recommendations from Zaino on how to use his products. Sans the Chamois.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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yea could be the towels, i used to use terry towels and that ended up scratching parts of my paint, i now use 100% microfiber towels, they are the shyt!!
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