^^^^This is the hub of it.

The buyers in the US call the shots. The US market is the one that Mazda has to impress when they launch a new rotary. You guys have been screaming for more power, you deserve the credit for the 16C if it makes it to market (there are some very tough EU emissions hurdles to jump first).

I'm still hopeful we'll see more power in the new RX-8 (May 2008 in Australia).

facelift rx-8= renesis 1.5
2010 rx-? = renesis 2.0

:)

Whatever comes out, I hope they change the wheels before that. I don't like those Kabura wheels. Keep the stock RX-8 wheels. Those are timeless.

And heavy as hell.

not really...

I am betting they call it an RX-7. They have stated there will not be another RX-7 nearly officially so many times that I don't believe it anymore.

And RX-7 label would give us some great commercials too! RX-7 it is.

And on the engine. If the displacement increase comes from wider rotors, that means the eccentric shaft was changed. That leaves the possibility they fixed the center exhaust ports! Another 100 HP right there!

Or at least get rid of some hot spots on the coolant seals...that and a rumored new MOP and now we are talking!

I would love to hear from BUGER right now :worship:

*Waits for Icemark*.

kaleidoscope interior is wicked awesome

I can't stand that goofy windshield design, concept or not. If they kept that on the production I wouldn't buy the car because of it.

You have to first realize what the Mazda engineers will be shooting at as a bench mark. And then realize you probably wont get the HP numbers as high. You will be right there in the same weight:power, thought.

I'm guessing 10:1 or lower and a direct competitor to the Caymen S.

Next you have to just be apprecitive of the fact Mazda may not give you the big HP numbers to scare your neighbor's hemi away but they will give you the appropriate underpinnings to make anyone that turns their own lugnuts (all puns intended) a VERY happy rotorhead.

I would really love that windshield in a daily driver, like a Mazda6 or CX-7. I would not tolerate such a heavy piece of glass so high up on the car that is bred and would spend much of its time on the track.

Nope.

I hope that's sarcasm there, with your gram lights no less.

for OEM, 18inch, cast wheels they really aren't bad. I do agree that lighter wheels are a priority, but I'll let the aftermarket take care of that.

OEM 17" mustang wheels are on the order of 27-28lbs.

Yeah, I am saying compared to most stock wheels. Mazda did a pretty good job investing in some areas of the car to lighten it. Like the hood, wheels, etc. 23 or so pounds is not that much. Even though my wheels are 5 lbs each lighter roughly, I cant tell a difference. I did not even buy them to save weight, but for looks. It also saves rotational mass too while I am at it:naughty: .

Here's some food for thought. If the engine is in fact larger and the rotors weren't just widened, it's pretty likely that the transmission bolt pattern has also changed. The lat time this happened was 1974. That means it will not just be a direct bolt on as all of the other rotaries for the past 34 years have been. All displacement changes in that time have either been in the form of rotor width or number of rotors and this didn't affect the bolt pattern at all.

interesting

this is so nerve racking!

Hope I get this car payed off before the next one comes out.

I'm almost there! by the time this bad boys is out It should be perfect timing.

that would be nice

I dont think its going to be a RX-7. It would take the numbers out of place. Mazda tryed to go back IE; RX-1 concept car. But that ended up being a RX-8.


Oh and about that windsheld. That wind sheld is aerodynamically designed :Drooling_

I'll leave the wild @ss speculation to you guys and simply believe the final product when I see it being produced ...

bet you are fun at parties .....