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Ajax 10-29-2007 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 2117994)
Oh my children :scratchhe , and I can get away with saying that because I'm getting up there.
I thought I'd show you some 4 port vs 6 port pics, lest you think I've totally lost it.

Paul.

I could see it on the other thread you posted.. it certainly does look like, from the picture you posted, that it's a 4 port and the AUX port is blocked.. But you're still crazy, and you never share enough good info with those of us from texas ;)

Thanks for the pics though.

It's nice to see that mazda has not discarded the 6 port design. I just hope I don't have to wait too long to actually see this engine in action.

Mazmart 10-29-2007 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Ajax (Post 2118051)
I could see it on the other thread you posted.. it certainly does look like, from the picture you posted, that it's a 4 port and the AUX port is blocked.. But you're still crazy, and you never share enough good info with those of us from texas ;)

Thanks for the pics though.

It's nice to see that mazda has not discarded the 6 port design. I just hope I don't have to wait too long to actually see this engine in action.

Give me a call sometime. I'll share what I think is wise to be shared :)

Paul.

eviltwinkie 10-29-2007 08:08 PM

Touche...

rotary crazy 10-29-2007 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 2117994)
Oh my children :scratchhe , and I can get away with saying that because I'm getting up there.
I thought I'd show you some 4 port vs 6 port pics, lest you think I've totally lost it.

Paul.

Thanks for the pics, I think this settles it, it is a 4 port

eviltwinkie 10-29-2007 08:20 PM

What we need is more rotard pr0n...

Wonder if we can get a close up shot...something with a flash into the port area...

DemonRX-8 10-29-2007 08:30 PM

It definitely looks like a 4 port with the aux ports blocked off. However, could it be that they just showed the 4 port config for the AT cars (as it's similar to the current 4 port design), and that there may still be a 6 port coming for the MT cars?

rotarygod 10-29-2007 08:37 PM

Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.

Ajax 10-29-2007 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 2118248)
Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.

Maybe release the 4 port first for the RX-8 and then the 6 port with the following vehicle. Why would they do that? Maybe they know how weak the RX-8 transmission is?

Renesis_8 10-29-2007 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 2118248)
Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.

I can come up with a few guesses

1) The engine cannot rev higher than 7500rpm, hence the 4 port.
2) They will turbo this to put in a MS8 and 4 port works better
3) The ports are large enough to breath to 8500rpm
4) 4 port engine is lighter

I would like to see a 6port available tho. If the engine makes ~265hp@7000rpm, its gonna make a lot more at 8500rpm. If the ports are large enough to breath to 8500rpm, 2 extra ports mean more power at ~10000+rpm, assuming the exhaust ports can handle the flow.

However it is only applicable in a race car, as either option would take the engine out of factory suggested limits for a production car.

Although an engine that makes 265hp@7000rpm is much better than 265hp@8500rpm, I personally would prefer the higher revving engine.

A 6-port engine that makes 265hp@8500rpm that could flow more would be perfect. So the aftermarket can unlock more hp at higher rpm , and we can use that power at our own risks.
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ASH8 10-30-2007 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 2118248)
Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.

The 4 port has not been dumped in all markets we still have the 4 port Auto's available here and have not seen the 6 speed/port auto RX-8.

Whether we will (Australia) see the 6 port/speed Auto in the new model next year is yet to be confirmed.

I do not think even the UK has had the 6 speed/port Auto.

ASH8 10-30-2007 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 2117994)
Oh my children :scratchhe , and I can get away with saying that because I'm getting up there.
I thought I'd show you some 4 port vs 6 port pics, lest you think I've totally lost it.

Paul.

Yeah, Thanks for the pics DAD!..
Your not the only one UP ^^ THERE...(1957, You).

And yeah,I have flip flopped more on this issue than a politician, YES this display 16X IS a 4 Port not a 6...BOY!

DOMINION 10-30-2007 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Ajax (Post 2118285)
Maybe release the 4 port first for the RX-8 and then the 6 port with the following vehicle. Why would they do that? Maybe they know how weak the RX-8 transmission is?

Please tell me or us how week it is?:dunno:

My thoughts: 4 port for the AT and the 6 port for the MT, also we will see a new Tranny.
Thats my 2nd prediction:smoker:

rotary crazy 10-30-2007 07:00 AM

4 port is lightter and sympler for a small light weight car?

6 port more power more complex for a larger more heavy car?

maybe they got what they wanted out of a 4 port engine?

I think this is positive, if they got 20% more power and torque from a 4 port imagine what they can get out of a 6 port

Mazmart 10-30-2007 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 2118682)
Yeah, Thanks for the pics DAD!..
Your not the only one UP ^^ THERE...(1957, You).

And yeah,I have flip flopped more on this issue than a politician, YES this display 16X IS a 4 Port not a 6...BOY!

You've got me beat by a few ASH. I was born in October of 1969.

Paul.

altspace 10-30-2007 08:08 AM

Any Admin or Mod want to combine these 2 threads. It's a bit annoying.

eviltwinkie 10-30-2007 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by DOMINION (Post 2118811)
Please tell me or us how week it is?:dunno:

My thoughts: 4 port for the AT and the 6 port for the MT, also we will see a new Tranny.
Thats my 2nd prediction:smoker:

Yeah well the 16X IS connected to a dual clutch 7 speed trans right meow in the Takai....

Come on Mazdaspeed RX-8...16X+7 Speed Trans...

THATS worthy of the Mazdaspeed badge right thar...

shaunv74 10-30-2007 11:11 AM

^^Super Troopers FTW!!:lol:

Nemesis8 10-30-2007 12:28 PM

Yes - we need more info about the dry twin clutch 7-speed power shift setup for sure!

Astral 10-30-2007 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 2118248)
Interesting. So are they going to do a 4 and a 6 port on this engine too? Perhaps? It confuses me to see this though as they dumped the 4 port 13B Renesis.

I don't think Mazda dumped the 4-port--aren't they still selling the low-power 4-port 5-speed RX-8 in Europe and other countries?

rotary crazy 10-30-2007 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Astral (Post 2119469)
I don't think Mazda dumped the 4-port--aren't they still selling the low-power 4-port 5-speed RX-8 in Europe and other countries?

yes

rotary crazy 11-05-2007 07:04 AM

I know why it is a 4 port

the car that this is going to be in does not have enough space for the 6 port intake manifold, the engine is going to be almost between the driver and passenger

P00Man 11-05-2007 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by rotary crazy (Post 2126905)
I know why it is a 4 port

the car that this is going to be in does not have enough space for the 6 port intake manifold, the engine is going to be almost between the driver and passenger


That would suck.
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Renesis_8 11-05-2007 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by P00Man (Post 2127493)
That would suck.

No, I disagree, that'd be awesome for balance.
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