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zoom44 09-18-2007 05:38 PM

they're both cars:dunno:

kristopher_d 09-18-2007 05:44 PM

No. No back seats. For the love of motoring fun, don't give us back seats. The 8 already has them. I want a 2 seater with hatch, and no more than 2500 lbs. I want a turbo option, and I'm willing to pay for it. Joe Average will keep buying your 8's, Joe Crazierthanbatshit will pay for more performance and less practicality.

Sephiroth 09-18-2007 05:57 PM

Very exiciting news guys! Lets hope Mazda hits a home run with this one!

dillsrotary 09-18-2007 06:02 PM

I'm more interested in what the engine is made of, aluminium, cast iron again? what exactly is the geometric difference, mainly in which directions are the increases going? You can guess all you what about the HP, but the new dimensions/materials is what i'm interested in.

\\Konig\\ 09-18-2007 06:10 PM

wait so theres already an rx-9? is this new car really going to be named rx-7?

tajabaho1 09-18-2007 06:10 PM

lol, for some reason I am feeling not more hp, but more torque and better milage

Ploppity Drown 09-18-2007 06:13 PM

If They Mated...
 
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/kaburapr00001.jpghttp://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...rx7_2011_a.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...mazda6---6.jpg

Pretty obvious someone took the Kabura concept and Mazda6-ified it. Look at the foglights. Now, whether this was done as official Mazda business, or by an enterprising photoshopper... We'll have to wait 'til Tokyo to find out.

I like the direction this is going. The Kabura looks a little too Sci-Fi to me, but the Mazda6 is stunning. Here's hoping the final product of this 'flow' series is a 2 door, 4 seat hatch. :fingersx:

rotary crazy 09-18-2007 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by \\Konig\\ (Post 2059293)
wait so theres already an rx-9? is this new car really going to be named rx-7?

a 1980's 929 had a rotary version named RX-9

\\Konig\\ 09-18-2007 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by rotary crazy (Post 2059305)
a 1980's 929 had a rotary version named RX-9


oooh i see...it would be odd if they brought back the RX-7 name. RX-10 maybe???

Renesis_8 09-18-2007 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by dillsrotary (Post 2059281)
I'm more interested in what the engine is made of, aluminium, cast iron again? what exactly is the geometric difference, mainly in which directions are the increases going? You can guess all you what about the HP, but the new dimensions/materials is what i'm interested in.

Me too, I think we will see a bigger rotor (greater diameter). As opposed to increased width. Increasing the width is probably impossible for the 1.6L, the exhaust ports right now could barely flow enough to support 1.3L at high rpm, therefore B geometry is outta the question.

What about 3 rotors, are we certain that 1.6L will be 2 rotors? I like the idea of thin and small rotors (times 3).

I think its about time for aluminium... Rotaries don't have the weight advantage anymore compared to other engines.
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Renesis_8 09-18-2007 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by \\Konig\\ (Post 2059308)
oooh i see...it would be odd if they brought back the RX-7 name. RX-10 maybe???

Mazda RXX haha, it'll be faster than Ferrari's FXX.
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Ploppity Drown 09-18-2007 06:22 PM

Looks like a hatchback from this angle, too:

http://rotarynews.com/images/fullsize/rx7_2011_b.jpg

That image looks really fake, though. And those wheels look to be ripped right off the Kabura.

And the last image for good measure:

http://rotarynews.com/images/fullsize/rx7_2011_c.jpg

Renesis_8 09-18-2007 06:25 PM

The RX-7 was a hatch =)
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rotary crazy 09-18-2007 06:26 PM

it will be bigger in every sence of the word and it is a 2 rotor

right now I have comflicting info, my source ( the one that told me there was going to be a facelift for 2008 and a new rotary for 2010 over a year ago ) told me it is going to be a 1.5l another very important source told me the same, but the info on this threat and acording to a few other people it is a 1.6l :dunno:

Renesis_8 09-18-2007 06:27 PM

Maybe its 1550ish cc... haha
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Floyd 09-18-2007 06:27 PM

I'm sure the Ren2 had a few different directions it could have gone in. Perhaps they even had seperate teams working on diferent solutions. Perhaps the 1.5l got the axe and the 1.6l got the go-ahead

rotary crazy 09-18-2007 06:31 PM

my info is less than a week old

rotary crazy 09-18-2007 06:39 PM

it made autoblog

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/18/t...-rotary-coupe/

zoom44 09-18-2007 07:01 PM

inspiration for the other 2 images.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...rx7_2011_c.jpg
http://www.carfolio.com/images/dbima..._concept_4.jpg

and i was pretty sure on this one where it came from- because of the angle and cut off the bottom of the wheels

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...rx7_2011_b.jpg
http://www.mazda.se/NR/rdonlyres/0E8...a_seite_gr.jpg

rotary crazy 09-18-2007 07:14 PM

we only have a month to wait, the tokyo motor show is on october 27th, and im sure this will be a hot topic at ssx

http://www.tokyo-motorshow.com/eng/

zoom44 09-18-2007 07:19 PM

front overhead is also inspired by this ryuga shot (thanks to ahura from autoblog)

http://www.plekkie.net/anton/mazda/ryuga1.jpg

Ploppity Drown 09-18-2007 07:29 PM

These couldn't possibly be official Mazda renderings. They would have tried harder. Kudos to whoever photoshopped these, though. I really like the lines of the headlights, foglights, and grill.

Do you guys think these images were composed by someone who'd actually seen the new concept vehicle? or a pic of it? Are those kinds of information leaks common? Or is this just a demonstration of creative forecasting by an auto magazine?

Clavius 09-18-2007 07:32 PM

I say Smoke is being blown up my piehole till I see it at Tokyo. We've had to many false hopes for me to be doing a lil dance in my room singing songs of joy. The drawings are obviously photohacked and the article could of been written by any one of us since the rumors we spread here at times are very rampant be it from a good source or through wishful thinking. Be easy to compile all the ones that seem legit and put them together for a decent article. I dunno in a negitive mood atm but again till I see it in Tokyo or as SSX I'm calling bull.

rotary crazy 09-18-2007 07:34 PM

Im sure Bern dint just take the article from a mag, im sure he use those images for a reason, he most have inside info,will the car look like this maybe, maybe not, I for one hope the car is a more finish version, closer to production

shaunv74 09-18-2007 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by rotary crazy (Post 2059317)
it will be bigger in every sence of the word and it is a 2 rotor

right now I have comflicting info, my source ( the one that told me there was going to be a facelift for 2008 and a new rotary for 2010 over a year ago ) told me it is going to be a 1.5l another very important source told me the same, but the info on this threat and acording to a few other people it is a 1.6l :dunno:

I don't think I've seen any statement either way about what the displacement will be. You probably know better than anyone else.:)


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