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Old 11-07-2009, 03:14 PM
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I love my 8, but I must say I got raked through the coals because the car went from value in the mid teens to not even 5 digits. I would imagine part of the reason sales are down is you can walk around the same showroom and find the same car with 10,000 miles (no one drives them) for half the price. Hmm I can get a new one for $29,000+ or get one only 4 years old LOW miles for $10,000. It's a joke. I would be giddy if someone offered even $12,000 for my 05 with less then 50,000 miles. $3,800 a year depreciation.
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Ill admit that sales # for Sept. actually shocks me. If I would have had to guess I would have easily guessed under 100. Face it, a market for this car pretty much does not exist anymore. I wonder if the huge rebates made those on the fence decide to get one

As for the posts on MPG...the problem is not the MPG alone, it is the fact that there are cars with huge V8s and 100+ more HP that can get mid-20s highway. When people see only 232 hp and 16/22, that's where the big turn off is for anyone who may consider this car.
Try having a car that is virtually 5 years old with no powertrain upgrade!
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At a sales rate of 250 a month, they're probably losing more on each one than they sell them for. And they just dumped a pile into re-engineering the '09s. They have to introduce a new model, or dump it. You can hear the sucking sound all the way from Japan. That's the RX-8 product line inhaling money from the other business units at Mazda..
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November sales figures...

Mazda Reports Sales Increase for November

IRVINE, Calif., Dec. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today reported November 2009 sales of 14,255 units, an increase of 9.6 percent versus November of 2008 on a DSR (daily selling rate) basis (23 selling days in November 2009 compared to 25 selling days last November), up 0.9 percent unadjusted.

Overall, total yearly sales are reported at 189,512, down 22.4 percent DSR (23.0 percent unadjusted) compared to 2008.

With November sales of 5,923 units (up 3.2 percent), the wildly popular, all-new 2010 MAZDA3 continues to lead the charge for the Mazda lineup and is nearing 90,000 units sold in 2009. The Mazda CX-7 crossover SUV reported an outstanding 103.2 percent sales increase compared to the same period last year with 2,209 units sold.

MX-5 Miata (up 34.8%), RX-8 (up 13.1%) and CX-9 (up 13.1%) all reported strong November sales, signaling that Mazda is gaining strength and momentum.

Mazda Motor de Mexico (MMdM) reported sales of 1,682, down 16.0 percent versus last year. Mazda Canada Inc. (MCI) sold 5,117 units, up 2.0 percent compared to last November.

Celebrating its 40th Anniversary in the United States in 2010, Mazda North American Operations is headquartered in Irvine, Calif. and oversees the sales, marketing, parts and customer service support of Mazda vehicles in the United States, Canada and Mexico through nearly 900 dealers. Operations in Canada are managed by Mazda Canada, Inc., located in Ontario; and in Mexico by Mazda Motor de Mexico in Mexico City.
Linkey: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-78252532.html

From the link, Mazda sold 181 RX-8's in November 2009, up 13.1% from the 160 they sold in 11/08
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Originally Posted by TZ250
At a sales rate of 250 a month, they're probably losing more on each one than they sell them for. And they just dumped a pile into re-engineering the '09s. They have to introduce a new model, or dump it. You can hear the sucking sound all the way from Japan. That's the RX-8 product line inhaling money from the other business units at Mazda..
It's good to know all those little 3's, "Speed"6's, and the other zoom-zoom steel bitches are doing their part to support their King
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There is no separate RX-8 production line, Mazda like many car plants have multi models coming down one line, in any particular order....also helps stops production boredom to a degree and keeps minds active in having to select the correct parts.

Apart from the US Mazda 6, all the Mazda 3 and 6's come out of Hofu plant, every other model comes off same line in Hiroshima (8, 2 ,CX-7,9, MX-5), For Export.

Then you have their few OS plants, Flat Rock, Thailand, China.
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Originally Posted by 77mjd

As for the posts on MPG...the problem is not the MPG alone, it is the fact that there are cars with huge V8s and 100+ more HP that can get mid-20s highway. When people see only 232 hp and 16/22, that's where the big turn off is for anyone who may consider this car.
200 + HP more mid 20s highway 06 M6 GTO.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
There is no separate RX-8 production line, Mazda like many car plants have multi models coming down one line, in any particular order....also helps stops production boredom to a degree and keeps minds active in having to select the correct parts.

Apart from the US Mazda 6, all the Mazda 3 and 6's come out of Hofu plant, every other model comes off same line in Hiroshima (8, 2 ,CX-7,9, MX-5), For Export.

Then you have their few OS plants, Flat Rock, Thailand, China.
True, but all rotary engines are hand built.
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Linkey: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-78252532.html

From the link, Mazda sold 181 RX-8's in November 2009, up 13.1% from the 160 they sold in 11/08

This is good news... more cash for development on the new 16X , I read Direct Injection was causing them some problems...
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i often think about how a direct injection would work on the rotary. currently we have so many stages to the intake, even the 09's have 2 per rotary--so i wonder if it will be 2 direct injection ports? starting to get a lot of holes in the housing.
why didnt they just do a 3 sparkplug setup?
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
This is good news... more cash for development on the new 16X , I read Direct Injection was causing them some problems...
with that information alone it would seem good... However, the cars right now has $6k in rebates from Mazda plus you can talk the dealers down. Someone I know just bought a brand new R3 for $26k
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Originally Posted by olddragger
i often think about how a direct injection would work on the rotary. currently we have so many stages to the intake, even the 09's have 2 per rotary--so i wonder if it will be 2 direct injection ports? starting to get a lot of holes in the housing.
why didnt they just do a 3 sparkplug setup?
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That's what I was just saying yesterday! It seems like the 3rd hole would help a lot of things out, if I am not mistaken.
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The 8 is a fantastic car, beautiful and an amazing handler, comfortable enough to be a daily driver, with ride quality that rivals some sedans, AND usable rear seats.

And it's affordable, even with a hand built motor in Hiroshima.

Try to find another car with the qualities and capabilities of the 8 for anywhere near the price.

With a great warranty and while getting average fuel economy of just under 21 mpg in 50/50 city/highway driving, I'll never frickin' complain about this fantastic, under-appreciated, misunderstood car.

Best car I've ever owned and in a league of its own.
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Originally Posted by RotoRocket
The 8 is a fantastic car, beautiful and an amazing handler, comfortable enough to be a daily driver, with ride quality that rivals some sedans, AND usable rear seats.

And it's affordable, even with a hand built motor in Hiroshima.

Try to find another car with the qualities and capabilities of the 8 for anywhere near the price.

With a great warranty and while getting average fuel economy of just under 21 mpg in 50/50 city/highway driving, I'll never frickin' complain about this fantastic, under-appreciated, misunderstood car.

Best car I've ever owned and in a league of its own.

I hate you, with your fuel economy.

After resetting my room fuse, i was getting 12mpg highway. Hopefully it's averaging out, I'm driving super slowly to trick the computer into being miserly.
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Unhappy Mazda sells 128 RX-8's in December 2009

Mazda Reports December and Full-Year 2009 Sales

IRVINE, Calif., Jan. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today reported December 2009 sales of 18,255, up 1.6 percent versus December 2008, and the strongest single month of the last four. Full-year 2009 sales were 207,767, down 21.3 percent. There were 28 selling days in December 2009 compared to 26 in 2008, and 310 selling days in both 2008 and 2009.

"Going in, we knew 2009 was going to be an extremely difficult year, and it lived up to its early billing all the way to the end," said Jim O'Sullivan, president and CEO, MNAO. "We reduced our fleet sales all year long to focus on long-term brand strength, residual values and profitability. With December coming in higher than last year, optimism is strong for a brighter 2010."

The all-new 2010 MAZDA3 reported a sales increase in December of 1.5 percent with 7,981 units sold, and represented nearly half of all Mazdas sold in the U.S. during 2009. Mazda's crossover SUVs showed strong sales in December, with CX-7 reporting a sales increase of 120.5 percent for the month with 2,578 vehicles sold, while CX-9 reported sales of 2,637 units, an increase of 25.4 percent.

Mazda Motor de Mexico (MMdM) celebrated its best sales month ever. The company sold 3,115 vehicles, up 15 percent versus last December. December also marks the first month MMdM has reported sales of more than 3,000 units. For 2009, MMdM reported 18,914 total sales, accounting for a 14 percent decrease versus 2008. The all-new MAZDA3 and the CX-9 each recorded their best-ever sales months in December.

Mazda Canada Inc. (MCI) reported December sales of 4,261 units, down 5.5 percent compared to December 2008. Overall sales for 2008 were down 13.3 percent compared to overall 2008 sales, with 73,672 units sold.

Celebrating its 40th Anniversary in the United States in 2010, Mazda North American Operations is headquartered in Irvine, Calif. and oversees the sales, marketing, parts and customer service support of Mazda vehicles in the United States, Canada and Mexico through nearly 900 dealers. Operations in Canada are managed by Mazda Canada, Inc., located in Ontario; and in Mexico by Mazda Motor de Mexico in Mexico City.
Link: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-80720852.html

Sales charts can be seen at the link.
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08 vs 09 December sales for MX-5s is REALLY interesting. 55.2% increase in sales. I'd call that odd for a variety of reasons. Was there a big rebate or sale on them?
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Mazda sells 128 RX-8's in December 2009
One of those is mine . I wish they'd break it down by trim level and color. I want to know how many R3s are out there.

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08 vs 09 December sales for MX-5s is REALLY interesting. 55.2% increase in sales. I'd call that odd for a variety of reasons. Was there a big rebate or sale on them?
Maybe it has something to do with that redesign. Wasn't that in 2009?

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If there was a spike due to a redesign, I would expect it would fairly evenly hit the whole year. 2008 vs 2009 for total year numbers, it is still a drop in sales. Something about December 2009 caused a significant spike in sales.

I would hesitate to attribute this to end of the year model sales that simply try to clear the lots of the outgoing year, since that happens every year.

And being a convertible RWD sports car (and common public stigma attached to that), sales spiking upwards going into winter is odd.

Perhaps there was a single large purchase by a rental car company? I believe MX-5s are in the Fun list of Hertz.



I just find that line more interesting than the rest in the charts
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You know, it occurs to me;

1) I love my MPV van. For the money, it has better quality, handling and overall value and features than any thing else in its class. Mazda quit making it.
2) I love my 929. For the money, it has better quality, handling and overall value and features than any thing else in its class. Mazda quit making it.
3) I love my RX-8. For the money, it has better quality, handling and overall value and features than any thing else in its class. ................... ?

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Originally Posted by RotoRocket
The 8 is a fantastic car, beautiful and an amazing handler, comfortable enough to be a daily driver, with ride quality that rivals some sedans, AND usable rear seats.

And it's affordable, even with a hand built motor in Hiroshima.

Try to find another car with the qualities and capabilities of the 8 for anywhere near the price.

With a great warranty and while getting average fuel economy of just under 21 mpg in 50/50 city/highway driving, I'll never frickin' complain about this fantastic, under-appreciated, misunderstood car.

Best car I've ever owned and in a league of its own.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
There is no separate RX-8 production line, Mazda like many car plants have multi models coming down one line, in any particular order....also helps stops production boredom to a degree and keeps minds active in having to select the correct parts.
Maybe this explains why I'm getting 30 mpg .... I thought I was supposed to have a rotary engine, but it looks alot like a 4 banger ... Did a worker get a little bored?
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Maybe this explains why I'm getting 30 mpg .... I thought I was supposed to have a rotary engine, but it looks alot like a 4 banger ... Did a worker get a little bored?
"Hu hu huh, I gotta see the look on the guys face when he pops open the hood...."
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They're having problem with direct injection on the 16x

3 plugs... no ROI that's return on investment.

So little gain for the expense.

You would know this if were at the SEVEN STOCK tech section Denny.

Mu ha ha............
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Mazda sells 92 RX-8's in January 2010

Mazda Reports Third Straight Month of Increased Sales

IRVINE, Calif., Feb. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today reported January 2010 sales of 15,694, an increase of 1.8 percent versus January of 2009, and up 6.0 percent on a DSR (daily selling rate) basis (24 selling days in January 2010 compared to 25 selling days last January).

The all-new 2010 MAZDA3, winner of ALG’s Residual Value Award for highest retained value after three years in service, continues as Mazda’s volume leader with sales of 7,368 units. Meanwhile, the MAZDA6 reported a 14.0 percent increase with sales of 2,884 units, MAZDA5 posted sales of 1,627 units accounting for a 21.4 percent increase and the CX-7 crossover SUV reported a 39.3 percent increase with sales of 1,622 units.

“It is no secret that 2009 was a challenging year for the industry, so it is encouraging that we have had three consecutive months of increased sales in the U.S., and are starting the new year on the right track,” said Jim O’Sullivan, MNAO President and CEO.

Rounding out the North American market, Mazda Motor de Mexico (MMdM) reported sales of 1,712 units, down 11.0 percent versus last year while Mazda Canada Inc. (MCI) sold 4,171 units, up 4.9 percent compared to last January.

Celebrating its 40th Anniversary in the United States in 2010, Mazda North American Operations is headquartered in Irvine, Calif. and oversees the sales, marketing, parts and customer service support of Mazda vehicles in the United States, Canada and Mexico through nearly 900 dealers. Operations in Canada are managed by Mazda Canada, Inc., located in Ontario; and in Mexico by Mazda Motor de Mexico in Mexico City.
Link: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-83366337.html

Sales charts can be seen at the link.
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