"Mazda expects to recall RX-8s"
08-25-2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Marietta 8
Orrrrrrrr.........Everyone can quit speculating on what they are going or not going to get and just wait till the official notice come out. How do any of you do what you are being paid to do when all you do is freak out all day about your car that may not even be or have a problem? Cheez and crackers, give it a rest!!!!!!
08-25-2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by otherside
From my contacts at techline, there are no internal changes. The damage is caused by intense heat, long idling times and lack of MOP lubrication at low RPM. I.E.. sitting in your car with the AC blasting on the Vegas strip in stop and go traffic. You drove 10 blocks and the car never got above 3K RPM at cruising speed. The rest of the time you were stopped. The flash will change the MOP calibration which will fix the issue. I drive 70 miles round trip to work and rarely go below 80mph.
in response to questions from Automotive News correspondent Mark Rechtin who's article was the one that broke this story and started this thread, Mazda Execs had this to say:
"It involves damage to the catalyst resulting from oil leaks in the RX-8's rotary engine." and i cant remember which article now but one of them quoted someone at Mazda North America saying some thing rediculous about oil getting into the combustion chamber as if that wasnt normal operation.
so if part of the problem is leaking oil- there could be a physical change to correct that.
other side did you "beta test" the vacuum tester?
08-25-2006, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
after following this saga since it firt reared its ugly head over a year ago i totally agree. from everything i know /been told etc that is exactly the issue- but then
in response to questions from Automotive News correspondent Mark Rechtin who's article was the one that broke this story and started this thread, Mazda Execs had this to say:
"It involves damage to the catalyst resulting from oil leaks in the RX-8's rotary engine." and i cant remember which article now but one of them quoted someone at Mazda North America saying some thing rediculous about oil getting into the combustion chamber as if that wasnt normal operation.
so if part of the problem is leaking oil- there could be a physical change to correct that.
other side did you "beta test" the vacuum tester?
in response to questions from Automotive News correspondent Mark Rechtin who's article was the one that broke this story and started this thread, Mazda Execs had this to say:
"It involves damage to the catalyst resulting from oil leaks in the RX-8's rotary engine." and i cant remember which article now but one of them quoted someone at Mazda North America saying some thing rediculous about oil getting into the combustion chamber as if that wasnt normal operation.
so if part of the problem is leaking oil- there could be a physical change to correct that.
other side did you "beta test" the vacuum tester?
08-25-2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by otherside
From my contacts at techline, there are no internal changes. The damage is caused by intense heat, long idling times and lack of MOP lubrication at low RPM. I.E.. sitting in your car with the AC blasting on the Vegas strip in stop and go traffic. You drove 10 blocks and the car never got above 3K RPM at cruising speed. The rest of the time you were stopped. The flash will change the MOP calibration which will fix the issue. I drive 70 miles round trip to work and rarely go below 80mph.
So in other words, in order to keep the Renesis from destroying itself, you CANNOT drive the RX-8 on most hot, crowded city streets and when you do drive it, you must drive way above the posted speed limit - eh?
Check out this scenario - "Uh Officer I HAD to drive 80 mph in the 30 mph zone over the sidewalks to avoid sitting in traffic, and I had to keep my windows wide open (sorry about the loud music) so that my engine doesn't puke' - lol
08-25-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RotoRocket
Mazda should step up to the plate and give us Crossfire loaner cars.
Hmm.. Otherside question about the Vacum Tester.. does every shop have one as a normal piece of equipment or did Mazda send you one for this upcoming mythical biblical recall? If so then this might possibly explain my dealers ignorance on this. Then again they have proven to me already they are not that smart ("Sure drivers side visor needs to be replaced" "Um Kevin we ordered you the wrong visor we ordered you a passenger side one sorry."). For this recall when it hits I'm taking mine to another dealer that has more credibility with Rotary's and just service (re:brains!) in general.
08-25-2006, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 6speed8
So in other words, in order to keep the Renesis from destroying itself, you CANNOT drive the RX-8 on most hot, crowded city streets and when you do drive it, you must drive way above the posted speed limit - eh?
Check out this scenario - "Uh Officer I HAD to drive 80 mph in the 30 mph zone over the sidewalks to avoid sitting in traffic, and I had to keep my windows wide open (sorry about the loud music) so that my engine doesn't puke' - lol
Check out this scenario - "Uh Officer I HAD to drive 80 mph in the 30 mph zone over the sidewalks to avoid sitting in traffic, and I had to keep my windows wide open (sorry about the loud music) so that my engine doesn't puke' - lol
08-25-2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Clavius
Silly Roto there is no such thing as a Crossfire if so I'd surely of seen one by now! They are a myth silly child nothing more.
Hmm.. Otherside question about the Vacum Tester.. does every shop have one as a normal piece of equipment or did Mazda send you one for this upcoming mythical biblical recall? If so then this might possibly explain my dealers ignorance on this. Then again they have proven to me already they are not that smart ("Sure drivers side visor needs to be replaced" "Um Kevin we ordered you the wrong visor we ordered you a passenger side one sorry."). For this recall when it hits I'm taking mine to another dealer that has more credibility with Rotary's and just service (re:brains!) in general.
Hmm.. Otherside question about the Vacum Tester.. does every shop have one as a normal piece of equipment or did Mazda send you one for this upcoming mythical biblical recall? If so then this might possibly explain my dealers ignorance on this. Then again they have proven to me already they are not that smart ("Sure drivers side visor needs to be replaced" "Um Kevin we ordered you the wrong visor we ordered you a passenger side one sorry."). For this recall when it hits I'm taking mine to another dealer that has more credibility with Rotary's and just service (re:brains!) in general.
08-25-2006, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
its a brand new piece of equiptment developed with this recall in mind. and the bulletin is not bloody MYTHICAL!
So its Mythical to me hehe
08-25-2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
....i cant remember which article now but one of them quoted someone at Mazda North America saying some thing rediculous about oil getting into the combustion chamber as if that wasnt normal operation.
Originally Posted by otherside
It was first thought that running the engine slightly rich would accually "cool" the cat. Not so. The reflash also leans the fuel mixture some.
08-25-2006, 04:32 PM
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Hmmm. Just a thought...and to extend this thread: it's entirely possible a replacement remanufacured engine could perform slightly better than your present engine. Just by chance you could get an engine that had a near perfect fit and balance on on the moving parts.
Someone mentioned that a worn engine might have to have the chamber rebored and a larger seals installed. I understand this would be a very small increase in chamber volume but would this increase horsepower?
Someone mentioned that a worn engine might have to have the chamber rebored and a larger seals installed. I understand this would be a very small increase in chamber volume but would this increase horsepower?
08-25-2006, 04:34 PM
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^ ~20 hp increase b/c of the new flash . . . I guess we can all dream, right?
So soon? There at least 10 rounds left. And by rounds I mean days.
Originally Posted by otherside
Yeah, but once the recall is done, you can go 30mph again! I give up...
08-25-2006, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Clavius
Hey keep in mind Zoom/Otherside according to "MY!" service dept your all blowing smoke up my *** so far that when I burp I do one of those smoke O's!
So its Mythical to me hehe
So its Mythical to me hehe
08-25-2006, 04:49 PM
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So this new flash is going to lean out my engines A/F mixture, is this just at idle?
Of course we don't know yet. But if it does this all through the throttle range then what
is this going to do for me and my AT in 120 degree weather.
Detonation (ping) is not my friend. I have to deal with this already in the heat.
Of course we don't know yet. But if it does this all through the throttle range then what
is this going to do for me and my AT in 120 degree weather.
Detonation (ping) is not my friend. I have to deal with this already in the heat.
08-25-2006, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dmc27
^ ~20 hp increase b/c of the new flash . . . I guess we can all dream, right?
So soon? There at least 10 rounds left. And by rounds I mean days.
So soon? There at least 10 rounds left. And by rounds I mean days.
08-25-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
So this new flash is going to lean out my engines A/F mixture, is this just at idle?
Of course we don't know yet. But if it does this all through the throttle range then what
is this going to do for me and my AT in 120 degree weather.
Detonation (ping) is not my friend. I have to deal with this already in the heat.
Of course we don't know yet. But if it does this all through the throttle range then what
is this going to do for me and my AT in 120 degree weather.
Detonation (ping) is not my friend. I have to deal with this already in the heat.
08-25-2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by otherside
So you believe your dealer over zoom or ME!!! Dont you know we are all knowing and all seeing!!!
Though I take comfort in knowing that Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are alive and well.
08-25-2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Clavius
I dont know what to believe anymore!!!!!!!!!!
Though I take comfort in knowing that Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are alive and well.
Though I take comfort in knowing that Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are alive and well.
08-25-2006, 05:46 PM
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Mazdausa Website says no recall for my 8
When I registered by 05' rx8 today on the mazda usa site it says no recalls for my car. Is this to good to be true? Do I have a magic VIN number that exempts me from the recall. My Car was built 7/05 (doesn't say what day) so it is possible that I missed the date cut off of 7/7/05. Has anyone gotten a recall notice through the site??
Thx
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08-25-2006, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nerviss
When I registered by 05' rx8 today on the mazda usa site it says no recalls for my car. Is this to good to be true? Do I have a magic VIN number that exempts me from the recall. My Car was built 7/05 (doesn't say what day) so it is possible that I missed the date cut off of 7/7/05. Has anyone gotten a recall notice through the site??
Thx
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Thx
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08-25-2006, 05:59 PM
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Someone should make a FAQ sticky.
Like:
Q) Is the recall official?
A) The recall is not yet officially out.
Q) When should I expect to be notified?
A) Letters will be sent out Aug 28th. It may take a week or two for you to receive the letter.
etc...
Like:
Q) Is the recall official?
A) The recall is not yet officially out.
Q) When should I expect to be notified?
A) Letters will be sent out Aug 28th. It may take a week or two for you to receive the letter.
etc...
