alnielsen

iTrader: (4)

So taking the car to the track and driving it over 100 mph, while it may void your warranty, is actually good for the engine.

devious12

My tech told me he is going in for training on the new tool next week, so I'm guessing I'll get the notice sometime after that.

dmc27

^^That's what I was thinking. Basically, you must drive in an unsafe (& illegal) manner on congested streets to keep the engine in good condition, or track it and risk voiding the warranty. Fantastic.

I'm due for an oil change soon, so I guess it's not really going to inconvience me to bring it in again. On the plus side, I've realized that buying from a dealer a little farther away makes the drive in really fun. 2 bridges that I get to blast off across . . .

Trekk

Kind of weird it took this allllllllllllllll this time to figure this out.

Imp

Or auto-x where you run medium to high revs in 1st & 2nd gear, hardly going over 60, and keep warranty.

--kC

ranger4277

I do mostly city driving with a 5/03 build date, very little cruise and I have the problem. And I run it to 9000 at least once every time I get in the car; I am a very sprited driver. My car only has about 23,000 miles on it and I only started experiencing the problem around 20,000. If you haven't started experiencing the problem you are probably ok as the new flash will prevent the low oil condition from causing damage in the first place. My engine will probably need replacing since it has been thrashing about with minimal seal lubrication for the past few months with no resolution from the dealer or Mazda until now. Car sounds like absolute crap once the vacuum starts to fail. Sounds more like a tractor from behind than a rotary.

I just don't feel comfortable with a remanufactured engine. Unless it comes with 247 HP..

BunnyGirl

Based on who has problems on here and how they drive, there doesn't seem to be a lot of consistency between them. If they hand build the engines maybe there are little discrepancies between the engines and that is what makes the difference?

zoom44

sounds like you need one from downing in atlanta then

ranger4277

Is that an option? Can I get a ported one from downing installed by my dealer? At Mazda's expense on the block of course.

pdxhak

iTrader: (2)

The last four numbers of my VIN are 9059. So I guess my car does not fall into the range of affected cars.

MrJynx

checked most of the posts.. but is this going to be applied to Canadian vehicles as well? I called my dealership and they had no idea what I was talking about.


MrJynx

MrWigggles

Malaysia is pretty damp. Australia should be similar to Arizona but I don't think it is quite as hot.

Also could this be an emissions related issue? Tier II emission regulations in the US are so stringent; do you think Mazda went light on the oil to avoid the extra pollutants? Tier II emissions are the toughest to meet in the world (and IMO quite Draconian considering other sources that are causing most of the problems...)

All of the crazy fuel maps, lack of power at high RPMs are related to passing Tier II (i.e. preserving the cat). I just wonder if this lack of sufficient oil thing is related. Do Australian cars have more oil injected with their PCM flashes?

That would explain why it is not a worldwide problem (at this point).

-Mr. Wigggles

max5roadster

So when will Polak come out with the new "Total Recall" Rx8 T-shirt Themes?

"3 engines, 2 trannies, 2 motormounts... But atleast I get flashed everytime!"
"I bought an RX8!" & matching t-shirt: "<--I'm with stupid!"

J/K, I really do miss the doom and gloom the first 3rd of this thread had :P

alfy28

wondering if my car the return of the AC my vin end with 666

devious12

I couldn't imagine that the engines from Atlanta would have more hp, but do you know something that we don't? I know you know alot that we don't but can it actually be requested, paying the difference of course that the engine is built different?

zeblien

You guys arnt giving me an easier time here. I was going to buy the rx8 last weekend but the dealer sucked.... and now all this recall stuff! ... Ugh! To much anxiety to buy a new car.

BunnyGirl

The impression I was getting (could be wrong) was too thin of oil recommended and some cars not putting out a sufficient amount needed with the thin oil.

Who knows. It does sound as if it is an oil shortage thing if the new flash is supposed to allow more oil in.

Clavius

Well I just got back from my dealer and according to them um.. this thread is "A bunch of B.S." and I quote that mind you. I had to go in to schedule a apt to install a d.s. visor (which they called minutes before to say they had in.. I dont get it?! lol).. and made a off hand comment about all this.. "So you guys ready for that recall next week?". My service rep guy's face went into that classic "huh?" expression then asked "Um.. which one..." I told him about "Possible engine replacements" I stressed "Possible" to him mind you. He said that they havent heard of anything and that they usualy get a long heads up on any possible recalls. He pointed out how they had a year and a half heads up on a Miata PCM issue recall.

So I dunno yet.. he bashed the forum a lil bit saying "More than half the time those guys dont know what they are talking about." So yeah I was kinda annoyed as I left the dealer since I do trust you guys and have helped me out alot along with tons of others. I live in the New England area so could this possibly be a reason as to why he or as he put it "they" (as in the dealer) havent heard of this yet?

ZoomZoomH

iTrader: (1)

so how many have we scared off so far lol

devious12

You know what's funny about this, everytime some recall or tsb has come out for the RX-8, I have found out about it here on this forum or from other members who have MNAO contacts. I would tell my tech, the same tech for 2 years now, about any recalls or tsbs and he always would say, "I'll ask around, but I haven't heard anything". Sure enough a couple of weeks or days later I'd go into the dealer (for the recall or tsb he didn't hear about), and speak with the same tech who would then say, "hey, where are you getting your information from, you seem to hear things before we do and you are usually right". So tell your dealer to shove that up their asses! Nanny Nanny Poo-Poo!

zeblien

Oh about 3 times this tread... and about 5 or 6 elsewhere on this site.


STOP IT.

LostAngel

Same with me, my techs don't know what I (or as they say) "Some Kid" is talking about....yet weeks later when its offical they become all 'oh yeah we knew about this'.

BunnyGirl

Good cover. LOL

Clavius

Could be spun into a Marketing Gimmick

"Buy a used Rx-8 and possibly get a brand new motor!"

marshall

Ok, so I was going to post something about this a couple days ago, but then this surfaced, but I thought I'll ad my two cents anyways.


I took my car in the other day to have the coil pack replaced and got to talk to the head tech at length about some of the problems we're seeing. He told me that they have replaced 13 different motors in the past 4 months. That seem a bit high to anyone else? I think so. This is Atlanta area btw. I asked him why and he told me this. He said that after a while carbon will build up on the apex seals, and cause the engine to lose compression, normally evidenced by power loss and stalling. He basically said to bring the car in if I noticed either and they would probably have to replace the engine. He basically told me that it was just easier and cheaper for them to replace the whole engine than to replace the apex seals.

He also told me that the latest flash is designed to burn more oil to help prevent this problem. (btw, let's not turn this into a debate about synthetic oil again, just wanted to throw my two cents in there)

Btw, he seemed like a very knowledgeable mechanic, and never faltered on any of my questions, and although I know that doesn't prove anything, it helps a bit.


btw, sorry if this has already been discussed.