zoom44

Totally Agree and i thought was the point when they "re-launched" the Mazdaspeed/MPS line. It was to be the "other brand" like honda and toyota hav eLux brands but Mazda was doing a performance brand. Or like SRt is to Dodge. but they somewhere along the line curtailled that plan and only introduce the Mazdaspeed version in the last year of the current model( before a facelift or chasis change) as with the Protege, Miata , Mazda6(new model delayed slightly) and now the Mazda3 with its facelift this year.

zoom44

gawd could you imagine waitng for that pre-order site to go live again? the first wait was bad enough supposed to be live at midinight my time it didnt go to 1:15 and then my old netscape browser wasnt supported

rotary crazy

Damn I thoug you heard something from ragonza too!

i just hope mazda gives us something at sevenstock

dmp

Anyone remember the Electric turbo mazda was looking at?? Electric turbo for no-lag, then a good-old-fashioned T80 for top-end power. :D

mysql101

With people hitting the end of their warranty period now, you might as well get an aftermarket turbo installed. Mazdaspeed FI kits never give you much of a boost compared to aftermarket.

otherside

Want to hear a nasty rumor? Possible discontinued RX8. A little birdie from Japan told me...

dmp

A german birdie told me Porsche has bought the rights to make the RX8. It'll be called the RXAcht and have 247ps.

zoom44

well not for 2007 since the dealers will be doign their allocation orders now or soon. you already have the new specs. just waitng for pricing

r0tor

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i'll take my MS8 with a 2.3l disi turbo engine please...

crimson-rain

I've heard something a little different. I read about Mazda and Vortech working together on a supercharged 8 on this forum. I asked a dealer about if it's true they are coming out with a MS8, and he said ... yes. It'll be SC'd with about 300-320hp. La de freakn da was my thoughts at first, but I've heard about this "Mazda and Vortech meeting" a number of times now, from the internet and from the dealers. Also, wasn't that white 8 that everyone of us wanted and talked about for days on end SC'd? That was like almost 2 years ago or something? I kind of place my bets on the MS8 being SC'd. Just my thought.

crimson-rain

Time to call Vortech.

Renesis_8

twin turbo RX-8 does not mean Sequential twin turbo tho... could be two smaller turbo instead of one huge one... big difference, but i see no reason to do that to a rotary...

For me, I'd want to see a supercharged RX-8 instead of a turbo-ed one.
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zoom44

im not saying turbo definetly but FI of some sort. ID liek to see them do a supercharger too- depending on the unit. yes the white one was supercharged.

crimson you are probably hearing a rebirth of the sunflower mazda supercharger story. at least that'd be my bet

otherside

Zoom44, that is true about 2007. 2008 is questionable at this point. This came from an engineer from Japan who was visiting a Vegas dealer researching the "repeated engine failures" issue. Believe me, I hope its not true. I too would love to see a Mazdaspeed turbo RX8.

Japan8

Me too... but all they ended up doing was this one year model before the end of a model generation. It's disappointing and from a business standpoint... stupid. There is clearly a market for SRT, SVT, M, R:., etc. type cars and Mazda is missing out on this market (actually Ford in general isn't doing so hot here).

I read a review of the MS3 in a JDM magazine last night... comparing it to the GTI. It's only advantage is that a DSG GTI costs like $34k in Japan whereas the MS3 is only $24k. If the prices were closer (as if likely in USDM)... the MS3 would clearly lose. The engine was peaky they said... so so power down low and then the boost hits (and hit hard). Handing is decent, but the larger wheelbase (compared to even the 5 door GTI) can be felt. The GTI had a better torque curve... flat and broad and the steering felt direct they said. The interior quality was (of course) better they said... more luxurious... as it should for costing more. Their overal opinion... the MS3 is a great value, but the GTI is still a better car.

olddragger

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i know-- i know ---Richard Paul is in secret cahoos with Mazda to produce the axil flow sc rx8!!!
Thats it! the RXRP model!
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BaronVonBigmeat

I wonder if RP could even produce enough to supply an OEM special edition type car. That would be cool if Mazda would choose a type of FI that's efficient enough to not need an intercooler, seeing as how they seem to skimp on intercoolers and cause problems. Maybe an increasingly weaker US dollar would make it economical for Mazda to import their FI solution.

BaronVonBigmeat

If it is, I'd bet dollars to pesos that it's replaced by a lighter, cheaper, Miata-based car; basically a production version of the Kabura. And probably with the direct-injected turbo-4 they're sticking in that one SUV.

66Racer

I think thats what the rx8 needs badly! 14.5 on the 1/4 mile isnt very exciting, although I did think it felt "fun" durring a test drive. The styling has me won over not the speed, luckily there is a somewhat healthy aftermarket.

If they went FI though, What internal mods would they most likely make to the rotary? Or is it possible we would just see a turbo/SC slapped on with some tunning? After all thats what the aftermarket is for, hope they plan on internal mods

saturn

Seems as though everyone is convinced that the 8 is going to get FI or be completely discontinued. Each day that the RX-8 is sold in its current state is a mockery to all we hold dear!

rotary crazy

it is most likely they would lower compresion a bit but dont count on it since the kind of presure its goin to have its no more then 8 to 10psi.

personally I would go with a limited production 10,000 units, 3 rotor, lighter , basic, harder suspension car, and sell the engine as a crate motor. it makes sence in that it will give the rx-8 a boost in PR , it will give racers there engine ( belive me must racers are tire of looking for cosmo engines in junkiars) if they can get 250 rwhp it would challange a lot of cars.

The mazdaspeed type 2 car with a NA 3 rotor with 300 hp

Nemesis8

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They hid the White SC RX8 from view at Sevenstock7. I sure hope if they do have a concept, they let the World at least see it this time.